Donny Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Today, Mark Boucher passed Ian Healy for most dismissals by a keeper in Tests. Player Span Mat Inns Dis Ct St MV Boucher (ICC/SA) 1997-2007 103 196 396 378 18 IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1999 119 224 395 366 29 AC Gilchrist (Aus) 1999-2007 90 179 381 344 37 RW Marsh (Aus) 1970-1984 96 182 355 343 12 PJL Dujon (WI) 1981-1991 81 150 270 265 5 APE Knott (Eng) 1967-1981 95 174 269 250 19 AJ Stewart (Eng) 1990-2003 133 141 241 227 14 Wasim Bari (Pak) 1967-1984 81 146 228 201 27 RD Jacobs (WI) 1998-2004 65 122 219 207 12 TG Evans (Eng) 1946-1959 91 175 219 173 46 AC Parore (NZ) 1990-2002 78 121 201 194 7 SMH Kirmani (India) 1976-1986 88 151 198 160 38 DL Murray (WI) 1963-1980 62 119 189 181 8 ATW Grout (Aus) 1957-1966 51 98 187 163 24 IDS Smith (NZ) 1980-1992 63 109 176 168 8 RW Taylor (Eng) 1971-1984 57 106 174 167 7 RC Russell (Eng) 1988-1998 54 96 165 153 12 DJ Richardson (SA) 1992-1998 42 77 152 150 2 A Flower (Zim) 1992-2002 63 96 151 142 9 KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2007 67 90 147 127 20 Link to comment
Chandan Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 This is a fantastic milestone. He'll go on have 450 dismissals against his name. How I wish, we had a wicketkeeper with that longevity. Many have come and gone, hence having no chance to even creep above 100 dismissal mark! Link to comment
observer1 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Looks like Gilchrist is just behind him. None of the current keepers are even close. Wonder if AG will catch up and overtake MB - the 2009 Ashes may be the series for this. Link to comment
Holysmoke Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Looks like Gilchrist is just behind him. None of the current keepers are even close. Wonder if AG will catch up and overtake MB - the 2009 Ashes may be the series for this.Dont think so.. GIlly is quite old, altho he is very fit... Link to comment
Lurker Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Today, Mark Boucher passed Ian Healy for most dismissals by a keeper in Tests. Player Span Mat Inns Dis Ct St MV Boucher (ICC/SA) 1997-2007 103 196 396 378 18 IA Healy (Aus) 1988-1999 119 224 395 366 29 AC Gilchrist (Aus) 1999-2007 90 179 381 344 37 RW Marsh (Aus) 1970-1984 96 182 355 343 12 [B]PJL Dujon (WI) 1981-1991 81 150 270 265 5[/B] APE Knott (Eng) 1967-1981 95 174 269 250 19 AJ Stewart (Eng) 1990-2003 133 141 241 227 14 Wasim Bari (Pak) 1967-1984 81 146 228 201 27 RD Jacobs (WI) 1998-2004 65 122 219 207 12 [B]TG Evans (Eng) 1946-1959 91 175 219 173 46[/B] AC Parore (NZ) 1990-2002 78 121 201 194 7 [B]SMH Kirmani (India) 1976-1986 88 151 198 160 38[/B] DL Murray (WI) 1963-1980 62 119 189 181 8 ATW Grout (Aus) 1957-1966 51 98 187 163 24 IDS Smith (NZ) 1980-1992 63 109 176 168 8 RW Taylor (Eng) 1971-1984 57 106 174 167 7 RC Russell (Eng) 1988-1998 54 96 165 153 12 DJ Richardson (SA) 1992-1998 42 77 152 150 2 A Flower (Zim) 1992-2002 63 96 151 142 9 KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2007 67 90 147 127 20 Some very interesting stats there. Seems like Godfrey Evans has the most stumpings in the list(46) while Syed Kirmani comes second with 38. The latter is a tad surprising to me as he played most of his cricket keeping for the great spinners of 70s and 80s. I suppose the only reason I could think of would be that Kirmani was competing with Farokh Engineer at the time and that may have split the numbers. Also interesting, though hardly surprising, that Jeff Dujan had 270 catches and only 5 stumpings. Tells a story right there doesnt it? And yes congratulations Boucher. Very underrated cricketer. xxx Link to comment
yoda Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 This stat should be credited more to the bowlers who induced those wickets than the man whose "job" is to just hold on. Link to comment
Lurker Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 This stat should be credited more to the bowlers who induced those wickets than the man whose "job" is to just hold on. Say that to Kaneria(and Akmal) Yoda. I would disagree with that largely because I have seen some absolute stunners behind the wicket. Put it simply if the rate of success in taking a catch for wicket-keepers were same as that for other fielders, most bowlers will end up with less wickets to their credits. I think wicket-keeping is actually the most thankless job in cricket. By the by who did Godfrey Evans take all those stumpings off? I thought he kept to Bedser, Trueman, Sthatham and Tyson. Did Laker and Lock feature in there as well? :dontknow: Link to comment
yoda Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Say that to Kaneria(and Akmal) Yoda. I would disagree with that largely because I have seen some absolute stunners behind the wicket. Ok, so what percentage of a keeper's catches you think are "stunning"? I would say may be 1 in 10. Link to comment
Lurker Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Ok' date=' so what percentage of a keeper's catches you think are "stunning"? I would say may be 1 in 10.[/quote'] That would be hard to quantify and I would hate to say "it depends". I would say it is closer to 30% or so, if not more. Successful keepers, like Healey/Gilly/Boucher/Dujon, routinely take catches landing almost to 1st/2nd slip. Then there is always the catches down the leg side. The faster the bowler the tougher it would be to take such catches. Standing up to any spinner, would add a lot of variables too. Probably 3 out of 10 catches are stunners. I would say hardly 4-5 catches out of 10 are regulation anyways. xx Link to comment
Rahul Khan Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 certainly its a feather in Bouch's cap...to overhaul Healy's record! still Bouch has much of time to set the new standards...isn't it! Link to comment
Gambit Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Boucher as a bat is a mixture of Healy and Gilly. He can be as doughty and gritty as Healy and when needed, can be almost as destructive as Gilly. Link to comment
Rahul Khan Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Boucher as a bat is a mixture of Healy and Gilly. He can be as doughty and gritty as Healy and when needed' date=' can be almost as destructive as Gilly.[/quote'] I totally agree with your observation...! Link to comment
Dravid Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 so b4 this top 3 were aussie well done boucher :appl: Link to comment
Ram Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 No co-incidence that the list is dominated at the top by a S.African and Aussies , places where conditions are more suitable for fast-bowling. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 A very telling stat about how the quality of a wicketkeeper matters is the comparison between Latif and Moin Khan. Both kept to similar bowling attacks over similar years ie. early 90s to early 00s and were roughly the same age. The difference in their numbers is staggering : 1. Latif has 130 dismissals in 37 tests. 2. Moin has 147 dismissals in 66 tests as keeper. Link to comment
Donny Posted October 5, 2007 Author Share Posted October 5, 2007 Not really definitive though mate. It all depends how many chances came their way. Moin simply wouldn't have played 66 Tests if he was continually dropping catches. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Not really definitive though mate. It all depends how many chances came their way. Moin simply wouldn't have played 66 Tests if he was continually dropping catches. Not definitive, but pretty indicative. Both were roughly the same age, had similar career spans, kept to basically the same set of bowlers, in similar conditions. Given all this the difference in the number of dismissals is pretty staggering. And Moin playing more had to do with being a better batsman and also non cricketing controversies that Latif was involved in. Also, it's not only about dropping catches but taking half or less than half chances which leads to the difference. Link to comment
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