prinzo Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 If India is ever to have another player who will play 20odd years of international cricket and who could possibly come close to Tendulkars records, and to have another superstar in the same auror , Sarfaraz Khan could be the one. Indian threw Tendulkar in the deep end at 16 years old and the rest is history. I say put Safaraz in the team already to get the feel of the national team and the give him games in the Zimbabwe , or Bangladesh, to build his confidence. however it will be unfair to the provincial guys looking to get into the India team and performing at domestic level. I JUST HAVE A FEELING ABOUT THIS SARFARAZ KHAN, could be the next greatest batsmen that ever played. India need to guide his career well in the next 4-5 years. Link to comment
bulbul Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Completely agree , he should be sent to SA. If starts now it will b easier for him to break all records by Sachin. Link to comment
nsareen Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Prithvi Shaw is more talented and touted to be the next best batting hope from Mumbai. Sarfaraz is good but has a lot of learning to do, should play ranji first then think about int. cricket. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Any footage? Comes 4 down in u19 batting order.. Can't really judge without having a look at him Link to comment
fineleg Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 There are plenty "hype" threads in icf. Is this the hyperbola season!?? Link to comment
Old guy Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 There are plenty "hype" threads in icf. Is this the hyperbola season!?? +1 let this kid make ranji debut first atleast ... Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 If Tendulkar were to be born in this era he would have never made debut at 16. That is the reality. We stopped throwing players in the deep end to see what happens. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 India really seem to be dominating the under 19s need to ensure that every batch atleast has 2-3 people who become india regulars. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 India really seem to be dominating the under 19s need to ensure that every batch atleast has 2-3 people who become india regulars. There are two ways to look at this. One way is that India's players develop more quickly than their counterparts. Players reach a very decent level when they are at a young age. The explanation which I favour and worry about is that because of the large population, India produce the most talented young cricketers. However, our domestic system fails to nurture and improve these talents whereas a team like England manage to nurture their U19s for several years before turning them into the finished product. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 There are two ways to look at this. One way is that India's players develop more quickly than their counterparts. Players reach a very decent level when they are at a young age. The explanation which I favour and worry about is that because of the large population, India produce the most talented young cricketers. However, our domestic system fails to nurture and improve these talents whereas a team like England manage to nurture their U19s for several years before turning them into the finished product. Agree. Link to comment
Old guy Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 There are two ways to look at this. One way is that India's players develop more quickly than their counterparts. Players reach a very decent level when they are at a young age. The explanation which I favour and worry about is that because of the large population, India produce the most talented young cricketers. However, our domestic system fails to nurture and improve these talents whereas a team like England manage to nurture their U19s for several years before turning them into the finished product. Agree. england is not good example .. cricketers they re poaching are not from their system or anything Link to comment
msb1991 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 england is not good example .. cricketers they re poaching are not from their system or anything Who is not from the system? Link to comment
Old guy Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Who is not from the system? just don not include players they got form other countries you will get far better idea how they are doing imo there domestic tournament is still not as good as south africa or australian one not hard enough only batsman they produced who looks like part is root..one thing they are doing well is using money to build facilities at lower levels and because of that they had very decent under 19 side last year but even with that i do not see how we should look at them or anything . south africa on other hand keep on producing cricketers for 2 countries and they are the ones who develop them the best Link to comment
gakgupta Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 From what I hear Prithvi Shaw is supposed to better / as good as Sarfarz Khan.....Lets pull these two guyz into the side along with Arman Jaffer.....Then our senior side can play U19's as well.... Can't understand the desperation..... Cricket is not all about skills....there are other factors like attitude and personality.....If you belive that he has enough skills to represent India, let him atleast learn other aspects of sportmanship in the domestic circuit.....on the other hand it's totally unfair to guyz like Rahane, Rayudu and others Link to comment
msb1991 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 just don not include players they got form other countries you will get far better idea how they are doing imo there domestic tournament is still not as good as south africa or australian one not hard enough only batsman they produced who looks like part is root..one thing they are doing well is using money to build facilities at lower levels and because of that they had very decent under 19 side last year but even with that i do not see how we should look at them or anything . south africa on other hand keep on producing cricketers for 2 countries and they are the ones who develop them the best Your argument makes no sense. You have failed to list one player who is not a product of the domestic system. Majority have come through the county system. Link to comment
Old guy Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Your argument makes no sense. You have failed to list one player who is not a product of the domestic system. Majority have come through the county system. Some of them played for other country like latest Irish bowler they poached And most of players they get have played domestic cricket in other countries for significant time...intact it's easier to list foreign players who are just product of county then otherwise Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Some of them played for other country like latest Irish bowler they poached And most of players they get have played domestic cricket in other countries for significant time...intact it's easier to list foreign players who are just product of county then otherwise Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 They all play county and once they do well in county only then they are selected and become eligible for England team. Link to comment
msb1991 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Some of them played for other country like latest Irish bowler they poached And most of players they get have played domestic cricket in other countries for significant time...intact it's easier to list foreign players who are just product of county then otherwise Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Rankin was not England caliber when he played for Ireland. England certainly poached him, but the system is what made him quality. Pietersen, Trott, Stokes, Jordan, Rankin, Strauss, Prior all play(ed) a lot of county cricket. Which players are you talking about that aren't products of the English system? The only one I can think of is Darren Pattinson. England aren't poaching people from Australia/South Africa/New Zealand and putting them straight into the international teams. That simply isn't happening. County cricket is a very strong system. Link to comment
Old guy Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Rankin was not England caliber when he played for Ireland. England certainly poached him' date=' but the system is what made him quality. Pietersen, Trott, Stokes, Jordan, Rankin, Strauss, Prior all play(ed) a lot of county cricket. Which players are you talking about that aren't products of the English system? The only one I can think of is Darren Pattinson. England aren't poaching people from Australia/South Africa/New Zealand and putting them straight into the international teams. That simply isn't happening. County cricket is a very strong system.[/quote'] difference is these were already very strong players .. how is that possible that minority of players from other countries in county system are almost majority in english team /? there at time are 5 players playing who were taken form other systems ..tell me how is that possible ? or are you telling me 50 percent of players in county cricket are outsiders? Link to comment
gakgupta Posted October 8, 2013 Share Posted October 8, 2013 Rankin was not England caliber when he played for Ireland. England certainly poached him' date=' but the system is what made him quality. Pietersen, Trott, Stokes, Jordan, Rankin, Strauss, Prior all play(ed) a lot of county cricket. Which players are you talking about that aren't products of the English system? The only one I can think of is Darren Pattinson. England aren't poaching people from Australia/South Africa/New Zealand and putting them straight into the international teams. That simply isn't happening. County cricket is a very strong system.[/quote'] Kevin is purely a SA product......I am not sure how much county cricket help to enhance the skills....may be Matt prior was not as good as he was...when he started playing for england Link to comment
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