JourneyMan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Not quite the same batting style, but I think he's Australia's version of Kallis. You're basically getting two cricketers in one with both of them. Can't think of many other all-rounders at his level. Link to comment
Sachin=GOD Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Sir Jadeja :ohyeah: Link to comment
The Outsider Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Shakib is better than Watson. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Watson is atleast 2 grades below Kallis in batting. In bowling Kallis is slightly above Watson though he didn't bowl match in the end of his career. Watson is also 5th bowling option for his side. He is an average all rounder. Will continue to be one as long as he tries to play everything on the frontfoot. Link to comment
cricketman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 /srs average 40 w/ bat with 1 hundred and 3 50s, 104 wickets in just 19 matches :two_thumbs_up: I'd take ash over watto any day of the week. hell i'd take bowling ARs like broad and even johnson over watson Link to comment
Tailender Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 most of ash's wicket's are at home against the likes of nz and windies... i'll wait a while to put any sort of label on him... For me it has to be Shakib and Watson. Ashwin, Jadeja, Stokes, Broad and Johnson all have potential to be good and potentially great all rounders as well. Link to comment
Tailender Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ashwin needs to work on his bowling. Jadeja has improved bowling a lot, but needs to work on his batting. It's not international standard by any stretch of the imagination. Broad and Johnson both have unfulfilled potential with the bat. Stokes is headed for a bright future. Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Ashwin needs to work on his bowling. Jadeja has improved bowling a lot' date=' but needs to work on his batting. It's not international standard by any stretch of the imagination. Broad and Johnson both have unfulfilled potential with the bat. Stokes is headed for a bright future.[/quote'] Broad is clueless against fast bouncers, Johnson is clueless on spinning tracks. Did have issues against Ashwin. Stokes looks a good bat. But bowlingwise no special skills. May be will end up like Dwayne Bravo? Link to comment
Tailender Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Broad is clueless against fast bouncers' date=' Johnson is clueless on spinning tracks. Did have issues against Ashwin. Stokes looks a good bat. But bowlingwise no special skills. May be will end up like Dwayne Bravo?[/quote'] Johnson and Broad definitely have their limitations but i've also seen them play some beautiful knocks. I'm sure their limitations can be worked on. For Stokes, i think he'll start off like Anderson when he first started bowling (good at home, hopeless abroad, especially in the sub continent) and I'm sure he'll improve steadily if given the proper support. Another couple of mentions - Starc and Pattinson.... lot's of potential there. Link to comment
kaptaan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 most of ash's wicket's are at home against the likes of nz and windies... i'll wait a while to put any sort of label on him... For me it has to be Shakib and Watson. Ashwin, Jadeja, Stokes, Broad and Johnson all have potential to be good and potentially great all rounders as well. Career summary GroupingAscending Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 v Australia 2011-2013.......... 7 13 409.2 94 1148 38 7/103 12/198 30.21 2.80 64.6 4 1 v Australia(in India...................)4 8 241.2 74 583 29 7/103 12/198 20.10 2.41 49.9 4 1 Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 It has to be Shakib beyond a doubt - his batting is somewhat erratic, despite being much improved. But, as a bowler, he is probably the finest slow left armer in the world even if his stats don't look as good as Vettori or Jaddu. The best all-rounder in the world is ABdV: can bat, can keep wicket, field and captain well. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 In ODIs, I'd place Watson even slightly ahead. His batting record is slightly lesser than Kallis but his bowling avg and record are slightly better. And he's won many a game with the bat unlike Kallis who has been more of a force in Tests than in ODIs despite his super-impressive stats. Watto is almost two cricketers in one during T20s and ODIs. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Watson is a bits and pieces test cricketer - would not make the side on either of his ability of a top international team, like he did not while Australia was top cricket team. Link to comment
cricketman Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Symonds was a far better allrounder than watson ever will be Link to comment
gaurav92 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yup, him, Shakib and Hafeez are best all rounders after Kallis. Link to comment
Vijy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yup' date=' him, Shakib and Hafeez are best all rounders after Kallis.[/quote'] Hafeez? In ODIs perhaps. But certainly not in Tests - he doesn't have enough penetration to be a wicket-taking bowler and certainly isn't an international-class batsman. A bat avg of 33 in Tests and 1 wicket per Test match constitutes poor returns. Link to comment
gaurav92 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Hafeez? In ODIs perhaps. But certainly not in Tests - he doesn't have enough penetration to be a wicket-taking bowler and certainly isn't an international-class batsman. A bat avg of 33 in Tests and 1 wicket per Test match constitutes poor returns. Yes, in ODIs only, but he isn't that bad a batsman, h can bat. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 To me Flintoff was the best bowler in the group and haven't seen a bowler rattle batters on a slow deck like him, his batting was aggressive but no doubt about his talent, Watson is handicapped by his weak body, his bowling at one time was as good if not better then Kallis and batting he has talent but needs to develop his back foot game a bit, overall Kallis is the most complete cricketer of this generation easily, Tendulkar to me also could be in that list but did not want to work on his bowling, he had very good skills for a leg spinner. Link to comment
Texan Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 In Tests, I would call him a poor man's Kallis. In ODIs and T20s, an invaluable player. Link to comment
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