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Tennis: ATP/WTA Tour 2014

Tennis: ATP/WTA Tour 2014  

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    • Rafael Nadal
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    • Novak Djokovic
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    • Andy Murray
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saw the repeat of the final.fed really played well and gave novak a run for his money,congrats novak who held his nerve in the TB .. now off to miami and i think nadal has a serious chance of winning this ,the court is perfect for him.i actually like the draw,fairly difficult for everyone and no free run
Miami is faster than IW,Nadal has never won this.

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IW suits Nadal way more than Miami. Miami tends to be much lower bouncing similar to the Asian HCs. However Miami is a slow'ish court, most are slow these days anyway.

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Miami is faster than IW' date='Nadal has never won this.[/quote'] You mean Nadal hasn't won it because it is faster? :hysterical: :hysterical: He has beaten Federer at Miami once, taken him to 5 sets another time when he was just a teenager. He has also lost a very tight final against Novak in 2011, which went to a 3rd set TB. You guys never cease to amaze me. :cantstop: The main reason why Nadal hasn't won it is because he generally does well at IW and enters Miami not fully fresh. Also by the time Miami approaches Nadal's focus starts to change to the clay season where he always has tons of points to defend. This year he has got a break. Although his current form his horrible, he might make a run this time. FYI: ITF classifies IW as medium-slow and Miami as slow.

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now off to miami and i think nadal has a serious chance of winning this ,the court is perfect for him.i actually like the draw,fairly difficult for everyone and no free run
bones is right about Miami. It is a slow gritty hard court but it also bounces low. At the same time the conditions in Miami are extremely humid making it even more sluggish. Personally this is my least favorite tournament of all the slams and masters 1000.

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You mean Nadal hasn't won it because it is faster? :hysterical: :hysterical: He has beaten Federer at Miami once, taken him to 5 sets another time when he was just a teenager. He has also lost a very tight final against Novak in 2011, which went to a 3rd set TB. You guys never cease to amaze me. :cantstop: The main reason why Nadal hasn't won it is because he generally does well at IW and enters Miami not fully fresh. Also by the time Miami approaches Nadal's focus starts to change to the clay season where he always has tons of points to defend. This year he has got a break. Although his current form his horrible, he might make a run this time. FYI: ITF classifies IW as medium-slow and Miami as slow.
You are free to establish cause effect,I was simply stating that Nadal has not won it

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I didn't,they were two different statements. Nadal has as much as a chance as anybody.Was merely stating that it's not an eventuality ..
I apologize for taking it out of context. Secondly with Nadal's form atm, it would be an upset if he wins it. However Miami is definitely not a fast surface. It is low bouncy alright but not fast and coupled with the humid conditions it actually plays very slow. In fact overall it is slower than Indian Wells imo. You should see last year's Miami final and then compare it with Federer Djokovic final of this year's IW. As I said before the dry weather at IW makes the balls travel much faster in the air, kind of like the Denver stadium in NFL where the higher altitude makes the difference.

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Del Potro will undergo a wrist surgery and will be out for 8-12 months. I think he has taken the right decision and I was expecting this. It's better than playing half fit all the time. But this is a very long break. So it can be really tricky. Hopefully he will be able to regain his form once he comes back.

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Zep1706, You will not be surprised that I'm going to disagree with you on this. I think that's Del Potro's career. Delpo is not a Fed or Haas that will play well into his 30s. If Del Po is out for that 12 month time, then that's his career. It took him over a year to get back from his last injury and his fitness has always been appalling. It's a really sad bit of news, really really sad because Del Potro had the most devastating FH on tour and probably the only player outside of the so called big 4 capable and confident enough to beat them.

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Zep1706, You will not be surprised that I'm going to disagree with you on this. I think that's Del Potro's career. Delpo is not a Fed or Haas that will play well into his 30s. If Del Po is out for that 12 month time, then that's his career. It took him over a year to get back from his last injury and his fitness has always been appalling. It's a really sad bit of news, really really sad because Del Potro had the most devastating FH on tour and probably the only player outside of the so called big 4 capable and confident enough to beat them.
What was his alternative? To play with an injured wrist for the rest of his career and in the process aggravating it further and at the same time not winning any tournament because he can't hit a proper backhand? At least this gives him a chance now.

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Del Potro will undergo a wrist surgery and will be out for 8-12 months. I think he has taken the right decision and I was expecting this. It's better than playing half fit all the time. But this is a very long break. So it can be really tricky. Hopefully he will be able to regain his form once he comes back.
****!!!!! Its really sad to see this happen to DelPo. If I am not mistaken, its his second major wrist-related break from tennis. One of my fav. players, at one point I had him to be as good as Djokovic/if not better. Definitely could've won 2-3 by now if he wasn't injured for so long periods.

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Zep1706, You will not be surprised that I'm going to disagree with you on this. I think that's Del Potro's career. Delpo is not a Fed or Haas that will play well into his 30s. If Del Po is out for that 12 month time, then that's his career. It took him over a year to get back from his last injury and his fitness has always been appalling. It's a really sad bit of news, really really sad because Del Potro had the most devastating FH on tour and probably the only player outside of the so called big 4 capable and confident enough to beat them.
Don't write him off yet, the lad's only 24. Yes, its nearing the end and I agree, we probably wont see a 33 year old Delpo on the circuit but assuming he is out till he's 25 and takes another year to find top gear, he can still win 2-3 more if he has no further upsets with his health. PS: Delpo didn't always have apalling fitness. he was fit as a fiddle when he won that slam vs Federer. Ran like a dog in that one.

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Murray through comfortably, Djokovic as well. Dolgopolov stun Wawrinka. What makes Dolgopolov's win amazing is that he says he's been playing 7 week non stop and he is running on fumes. Tomorrow we have Novak vs Murray, but of the big 4 match ups, this is by far and away the most boring. You look at the epics and there aren't many between these two. Nadal could win, but it's still too early to say, we don't know what he'll be like when he does face either one of the top guys. Nishikori vs Ferrer, far and away the best match of the tournament, riveting tennis throughout. Nishikori went to sleep in set 2 to save himself for a final push. Very wise.

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Good win from Fed there against Gasquet. Very smooth and easy. Looking good' date=' I must say.[/quote'] Yeah, Federer has been really good this year. Better than last 2-3 years. Good thing about tournament is that Nadal has also seems to have put his indifferent form right from the start of the year behind and really pummeling his opponent. Deafeted Fognini 6-2,6-2. and Fognini is no push over.

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Yeah, Federer has been really good this year. Better than last 2-3 years. Good thing about tournament is that Nadal has also seems to have put his indifferent form right from the start of the year behind and really pummeling his opponent. Deafeted Fognini 6-2,6-2. and Fognini is no push over.
Actually Fognini is a push over, he's a mental midget, I'm pretty sure Novak beat him in straights at the AO too without breaking sweat. Murray vs Djokovic today. Cracking match on paper, but in reality of all the big 4 matchups, this is the most boring one. I even prefer the beatings Nadal hands to Fed more than this. Very tough to call. Nishikori vs Fed. Well Nishikori looked like he was out of his legs at the end of the Ferrer match, so anything other than a Fed win in comofrtable straights would be a surprise.

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Federer lost to nishikori in three sets.
Wow. Did not see that one coming, not even remotely. It was too late for me to watch, but I'm guessing Nishikori had to play unbelievably well to win, given Fed's form. Kei was running on fumes as well.

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Wow. Did not see that one coming, not even remotely. It was too late for me to watch, but I'm guessing Nishikori had to play unbelievably well to win, given Fed's form. Kei was running on fumes as well.
It looked like Federer would win it comfortably in the second set. I went to bed and then just checked the score, suddenly it was 6-5. I watched the rest of it on my phone. Federer didn't play well in the third set. Nishikori kept up the pressure and eventually was able to win it. He had beaten Federer in the past so that helped I guess.

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Nishikori reminds me of young Novak. Similar style of play.
From start of this year, I am seeing that next generation is eventually standing up. Players like NIshikori, Raonic, Dimitrov and others increasingly making deeper and deeper runs in tournaments. While it would be sometime until top guns Nadal, Djoko and Murray could be dislodged from their pedestals, but support act of consistent group consisting of Ferrer, Berdych, Tsonga ets have started falling.

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From start of this year' date=' I am seeing that next generation is eventually standing up. Players like NIshikori, Raonic, Dimitrov and others increasingly making deeper and deeper runs in tournaments. While it would be sometime until top guns Nadal, Djoko and Murray could be dislodged from their pedestals, but support act of consistent group consisting of Ferrer, Berdych, Tsonga ets have started falling.[/quote'] Based on what I've seen, it'll be towards the middle of next year the change in guards will occur. It won't be because they young guys are that good, it'll be because the top 4 are entering thr twilight of their careers. The obvious truth is the next generation, Dimitrov, Nishikori, Raonic, Gulbis etc etc, they are not fit to lick the boots of the current top 4. Nadal, Djokovic and Fed were multiple time winners of ATP events and slams at this stage of their careers. Tennis will suffer for a while when the top 4 decline, we've been privileged to watch these guys go at each other and it'll be a while before we see an era close to this one.

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Kei pulls out from the semi because of groin injury. Second walkover for Novak. :cantstop:
That is not good. He reached in semi's of a masters first time and had to pull out. Hope Nadal doesn't take long to dispose off Berdych, else it would end up being unfair contest in final.

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That is not good. He reached in semi's of a masters first time and had to pull out. Hope Nadal doesn't take long to dispose off Berdych' date=' else it would end up being unfair contest in final.[/quote'] Novak actually got 3 byes considering the first round bye. :hysterical: :hysterical:

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Novak actually got 3 byes considering the first round bye. :hysterical: :hysterical:
He has no control over such factors. I've seen a lot of people just quote the same stuff and I have to remind them of just how many players, top 10 players as well, Novak beat at the end of 2013 to win those Asia and European HC events.

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Now Berdych also pulls out. I don't think I have ever seen anything like this before. Bizarre stuff. BTW both Rafa and Novak hold 4 masters each now and on Sunday one of them will have 5. So they will be holding all 9 masters among themselves. Amazing.

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Now Berdych also pulls out. I don't think I have ever seen anything like this before. Bizarre stuff. BTW both Rafa and Novak hold 4 masters each now and on Sunday one of them will have 5. So they will be holding all 9 masters among themselves. Amazing.
It is really unfortunate for spectators who would have booked their tickets to watch some good Tennis stuff. Hope Sunday final between Nadal and Djoko would be high quality stuff and compensate for this lack of action sufficiently.

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All excited to watch installment no 40 of the duel between two best players recent times, Nadal and Djokovic Their rivalry is epic with see-sawing fortunes. I feel momentum is with Djoko. He has had better of Nadal for last 2 meetings. He is more likely to win.

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^ Yeah. Djokovic owned Nadal completely. Kept hitting winners after winners. Good first serve. Good back-hand. Nadal had no chance. Though he himself played poorly :((
Nadal played as well as he could,but when Djokovics BH gets going,Nadal has nowhere to hide. Illustrates the power of matchups.

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Quite an easy win Djokovic. He completely smothered Nadal. Djokovic is by far the best player on slow hard courts that I have ever seen. It is near impossible to beat him on slow hard courts when he plays he A game, which he did today. Just look at his record against Federer, Nadal and Murray on slow hard courts-- 6-1 over Nadal Indian Wells 2007 : 0-1 Miami 2007 : 1-1 Indian Wells 2008 : 2-1 Indian Wells 2011 : 3-1 Miami 2011 : 4-1 Australian Open 2012 : 5-1 Miami 2014: 6-1 5-1 over Federer Australian Open 2007: 0-1 Australian Open 2008 : 1-1 Miami 2009 : 2-1 Australian Open 2011 : 3-1 Indian Wells 2011 : 4-1 Indian Wells 2014 : 5-1 7-1 over Murray Indian Wells 2007 : 1-0 Miami 2007 : 2-0 Miami 2009 : 2-1 Australian Open 2011 : 3-1 Australian Open 2012 : 4-1 Miami 2012 : 5-1 Australian Open 2013 : 6-1 Miami 2014 : 7-1 That is 18-3 against the three of them. Mind boggling record.

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Nadal played as well as he could
No he did not. He has played much better against Novak himself in the past, even in 2011 when Novak was at his absolute best. But Nadal's best is not good enough against Novak on hard courts if he plays his A game.

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Quite an easy win Djokovic. He completely smothered Nadal. Djokovic is by far the best player on slow hard courts that I have ever seen. It is near impossible to beat him on slow hard courts when he plays he A game, which he did today. Just look at his record against Federer, Nadal and Murray on slow hard courts-- 6-1 over Nadal Indian Wells 2007 : 0-1 Miami 2007 : 1-1 Indian Wells 2008 : 2-1 Indian Wells 2011 : 3-1 Miami 2011 : 4-1 Australian Open 2012 : 5-1 Miami 2014: 6-1 5-0 over Federer Australian Open 2008 : 1-0 Miami 2009 : 2-0 Australian Open 2011 : 3-0 Indian Wells 2011 : 4-0 Indian Wells 2014 : 5-0 7-1 over Murray Indian Wells 2007 : 1-0 Miami 2007 : 2-0 Miami 2009 : 2-1 Australian Open 2011 : 3-1 Australian Open 2012 : 4-1 Miami 2012 : 5-1 Australian Open 2013 : 6-1 Miami 2014 : 7-1 That is 18-2 against the three of them. Mind boggling record.
Federer beat djoker AO 2007

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Well that was an absolute mauling. I've seen many a match between these two, not since the pre-2011 version of Novak have we seen such an emphatic win. If Novak has re-discovered that confidence and form that was missing for a such a long time, I think Nadal might start to worry. It's still too early to say and Nadal is monster on clay, but Novak has been getting closer and closer to toppling him.

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Not much to make of the Monte Carlo draw, it being super slow clay, you'd find it difficult to look past Nadal or possibly Djokovic if he doesn't get knocked out early. Last year Monte Carlo didn't tell us much in terms of how RG pans out, I think it won't tell us that much either this year.

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