yoda Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 it would have disappeared from the radar the way it did. It was all on track and next moment it was gone. http://www.flightradar24.com/2014-03-07/17:20/12x/MAS370/2d81a27#/2014-03-07/17:20/12x/7,105.06/7?&_suid=139434526891605021661259421304 Look at 17 23 in this video. wow, seems like an ocean crash. not sure why they reported earlier that it was above safe area when it disappeared from the radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Reports that the plane had turned back on the radar before disappearing. Also that Malaysia is investigating a group of 4 people who bought tickets from a China airlines, two of whom were the ones with the fake passports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriKe Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: CCTV recordings show 2 passengers who board flight MH370 using fake passports Malaysian authorities have CCTV recordings of the two passengers who were said to have used false passports to board the missing Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines flight MH370. Department of Civil Aviation director-general Azaruddin Abdul Rahman said on Sunday there were only two such passengers, not four as earlier reported by the media. "We have CCTV recordings of them from check-in until boarding and departure," he said at a press conference on Sunday. The recordings have been handed over to investigators. Earlier, two men - an Italian and an Austrian - had confirmed that they were not on the flight despite their names appearing on the manifest. Their passports were reported stolen in Thailand up to two years ago. Mr Azaruddin also confirmed that five passengers did not board the MH370 flight, and their baggage were removed from the cargo. He did not say why they did not board the plane. Malaysia's Air Force chief Rodzali Daud said a review of the military radar showed a possibility of an air turn back. This meant that the plane had deviated from its course to turn to come back on the same flight path. He said this finding was collaborated by the civil aviation radar, and they were also checking with the radar of other countries. He said one reason could be that the pilot was trying to return to Kuala Lumpur International Airport from where the plane had taken off 50 minutes earlier. Normally, this happened if the pilot was unable to proceed as planned, and he would normally report this to air traffic control. But there was no such distress call from this plane, he said. "We are trying to make sense of this," he added. He declined to say how far the plane had turned back before it disappeared. Earlier, the authorities had said the plane was last on the radar at approximately 120 nautical miles off Kota Baru, in the South China Sea, in the airspace bordering Vietnam. Malaysian air traffic control had just handed over control to the Vietnamese authorities when they lost contact. As a result of this possible around turn by the plane, the search has been widened to the Straits of Malacca especially in the area around Penang. The Armed Forces chief Zulkifeli Mohd Zin said there are now 22 aircraft and 40 ships searching for the missing plane. This includes assets deployed by Singapore, Thailand, the Philippines, China, Vietnam and the US, as well as Malaysia. Malaysia was also conducting a land search using helicopters. Malaysia Airlines chief executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said there are no plans to ground their other Boeing 777-200 as it has proven to be a safe aircraft. He confirmed that flight MH370 was operated using a plane that had its wing clipped in an accident some years ago, but it had been repaired and certified safe by Boeing. Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control 50 minutes after departing KLIA at 1241am Saturday. It was due to land in Beijing at 630am, and had enough fuel to fly up to 830am. The plane did not issue a distress signal nor was there bad weather when it disappeared. The flight was carrying a total number of 239 passengers and crew - comprising 227 passengers (including 2 infants) and 12 crew members. There were 15 nationalities on board, the majority Chinese nationals and Malaysians. No Singaporeans were on board. Flight MH370 was operated on a Boeing 777-200 aircraft, a codeshare with China Southern Airlines. The plane was 11 years 10 months old. Malaysia said the search would go on round the clock until a decision was made to call it off. The next press conference is scheduled at 3pm. http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/se-asia/story/missing-malaysia-airlines-plane-cctv-recordings-show-2-passengers-who-bo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriKe Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/1zur6k/malaysia_airlines_plane_loses_contact_malaysia/?sort=new Some news link are in Chinese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StriKe Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Update on Passengers: Both unknown passengers using stolen identities would have been traveling together - they had the same connecting flight KLM898 from PEK to Amsterdam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 If terrorists r behind this then probably their target is China. Uyghur people might have used stolen European passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Malaysia plane looks at possible mid-air disintegration (Reuters) - Officials investigating the disappearance of a Malaysian airliner with 239 people on board are narrowing the focus of their inquiries on the possibility that it disintegrated in mid-flight, a senior source said on Sunday. Malaysia Airlines flight 370 vanished after climbing to a cruising altitude of 35,000 feet between Kuala Lumpur and Beijing in the early hours of Saturday, but search teams have still not been able to make any confirmed discovery of wreckage in seas beneath the plane's flight path almost 48 hours after it took off. "The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," said the source, who is involved in the investigations in Malaysia. If the plane had plunged intact from such a height, breaking up only on impact with the water, search teams would have expected to find a fairly concentrated pattern of debris, said the source, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak publicly on the investigation. The source was speaking shortly before Vietnamese authorities said a military plane had spotted at sea an object suspected to be part of the missing airliner. Asked about the possibility of an explosion, such as a bomb, the source said there was no evidence yet of foul play and that the aircraft could have broken up due to mechanical issues. Malaysian authorities have said they are focused on finding the plane and have declined to comment when asked about the investigations. (Reporting by Siva Govindasamy; Editing by Raju Gopalakrishnan and Mark Bendeich) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hhunaeh Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 "The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," said the source, who is involved in the investigations in Malaysia. Asked about the possibility of an explosion, such as a bomb, the source said there was no evidence yet of foul play and that the aircraft could have broken up due to mechanical issues. A bomb would have been better news than a mechanical issue. A mechanical issue would mean the fault was missed during the checkup/service which was supposed to have taken place 10 or so days ago. This would mean certain tests and procedures need to be updated and there are other planes similar to mh370 that are still flying?:nervous: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-Don Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 http://news.yahoo.com/vietnam-says-may-found-missing-jets-door-161951222.html they might have found the door of the plane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted March 9, 2014 Author Share Posted March 9, 2014 I just think that some information is not getting disclosed. Malaysia Govt or Chinese govt. or the airline someone is just keeping it secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 RIP. Sad news ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainfade Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Normally, terrorist attackers would thump their chests after doing something like this. The whole reason for their existence is that the world fear them. If no one knows who they are, whom do we fear? While not ruling it out, I am a bit skeptical of the terror angle at this point. Regardless of the cause, it is truly sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Normally, terrorist attackers would thump their chests after doing something like this. The whole reason for their existence is that the world fear them. If no one knows who they are, whom do we fear? While not ruling it out, I am a bit skeptical of the terror angle at this point. Regardless of the cause, it is truly sad. Its also possible that if these are Uyghur terrorists, they would like to keep a lid on it. If they thumphed their chest, China would start the kind of mass deportations/harassments/detentions etc. in Xinjiang that it is known to do. You cannot thump chest against them because they do not respect individual rights, they will harass each and every Uyghur. So it may be smart for them to not say a word but keep affecting China in any way they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailender Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Its also possible that if these are Uyghur terrorists' date=' they would like to keep a lid on it. If they thumphed their chest, China would start the kind of mass deportations/harassments/detentions etc. in Xinjiang that it is known to do. You cannot thump chest against them because they do not respect individual rights, they will harass each and every Uyghur. So it may be smart for them to not say a word but keep affecting China in any way they can.[/quote'] Aww, so terrorism without the terror. How clever. And since they hate the Chinese so much they decide to down a Malaysian plane. Wonderful thinking. Do you work for an intelligence agency by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Aww, so terrorism without the terror. How clever. And since they hate the Chinese so much they decide to down a Malaysian plane. Wonderful thinking. Do you work for an intelligence agency by any chance? Maybe it was meant to be a hijacking which clearly went wrong. Maybe the crew resisted with tragic consequences. Usually hijackers need people alive to negociate with. Maybe the idea was to hijack the plane and force the chinese to back off and release a few prisoners of war. Nothing can be ruled out. For all we know these guys are men of the triads who just happened to be on the flight. Uyghurs islamic radicals recently killed a lot of people with swords and a lot of them have been jailed. Maybe this was a means to get the government in Beijing to release them. Keep in mind this plane was destined for Beijing. Malaysia does have a large Chinese ethnic minority. The identity of the men will tell us what they were after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailender Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Maybe it was meant to be a hijacking which clearly went wrong. Maybe the crew resisted with tragic consequences. Usually hijackers need people alive to negociate with. Maybe the idea was to hijack the plane and force the chinese to back off and release a few prisoners of war. Nothing can be ruled out. For all we know these guys are men of the triads who just happened to be on the flight. Uyghurs islamic radicals recently killed a lot of people with swords and a lot of them have been jailed. Maybe this was a means to get the government in Beijing to release them. Keep in mind this plane was destined for Beijing. Malaysia does have a large Chinese ethnic minority. The identity of the men will tell us what they were after. This would make a lot more sense. The other theory was just bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I for one hope the chinese authorities take a strong stance against islamic radicalism. the incident in kunming should have opened their eyes to the threat. Some groups just cant integrate no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akshayxyz Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 This is terrible to say the least. From whatever I read, the hijack/terrorism theories are highly unlikely, despite the passengers with fake passport news. I would imagine this is way more common than we know. Also, this led me to read more crash stories/incidents and landed on these last words of the similar incident - Air France of 2009. As the evidences so far are strikingly similar, you can take a moment to look at a more realistic scenario: http://www.planecrashinfo.com/cvr090601.htm Wish it could have ended like this: [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2RklLdE3yE]Flight 1549: Calm in Crisis - YouTube[/ame] [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixUbdeXCp0M]Hudson River Plane Crash Pilot: "Obvious to me...this was a critical situation." "Brace for impact." - YouTube[/ame] This captain has got true steel nerves, imagine all that happened within the span of 3-4 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin 3:!6 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Shocking news this :(( Missing Malaysia Airlines passenger's phone rang live on TV- but nobody answers The sister of Chinese man among the 239 people feared dead on flight MH370 rang his phone live on TV. The family of a passenger on the missing Malaysia Airlines flight successfully rang his mobile phone - but nobody answered. This video shows the moment relatives of a Chinese man among the 239 people feared dead after the passenger jet mysteriously disappeared rang his phone live on state television. The call connected, but then rang out. Chinese media reports that a number of families have been able to ring mobile phones of their missing loved ones but no one answers. The development raises even more questions about what has happened to flight MH370. The flight is presumed to have crashed off the Vietnamese coast on Saturday, after losing contact with air traffic controllers off the eastern Malaysia coast. Fears terrorists are to blame are growing as it emerged two passengers were using stolen passports. An Italian and an Austrian were feared to be among the 239 victims presumed dead after the Boeing 777 crashed into the South China Sea. Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-eerie-moment-3222919 Kidnapping maybe?? :hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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