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If they project clean CM candidte then BJP has excellent chance of winning Haryana. There is buzz around here in Gurgaon ki Hudda sarkar to jaayegi, so people will choose best avalable option INLD - Corrupt goons HJC no mass appeal BJP can become dominant party if they don't go into alliance.There were hopes from AAP as many of their top leaders are from Haryana but it looks unlikely they will become major party
It will be interesting to say the least. If they tie up with the INLD victory is assured. Together i think they will be polling more than 50% of the vote. If as you say the BJP were to contest alone they would build their base and grow in the state. The BJP as a party needs to position itself as being the party of the schedule castes in Haryana. Long term the congress will regroup and be back. There are way too many jat parties in the state. So in general they need to ensure they monopolize the non jat vote. If the INLD agree to a 35-55 (35 INLD 55 BJP) split then IMO the BJP has a decision to make. If the INLD dont accept (and they will be stupid not to) then the BJP should go alone. The BJP though has a brand but a deficit of leaders...... something needs to change and change quickly.
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On the issue of the shiv sena. I dont think the shiv sena care too much about the cabinet berths. For them its a case of maintaining the seat sharing formula for the assembly polls. Uddhav and the main sena leaders will contest as MLAs. The power center of the sena are their mlas. Its just a case of sena sabre rattling to ensure the BJP stick to the formula of seat sharing at Assembly level. IMO the BJP should accept the seat sharing formula at assembly level but in return allow the Sena to get more seats and project Uddhav as CM. There is still a good chance they will emerge as the bigger party in the saffron alliance and they wont be contesting many seats in the political competitive mumbai region. Rather they will have more seats in the safety of Viderabha and Marathwada. The sena in return accept one cabinet berth.

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The firth of leadership in Maharashtra is a serious issue. I don't thing SS would have won 8 seats had Namo not been PM candidate.
they won 11 seats last time. Without namo i think they would have finished with 12. you have to keep in mind that SSS and RPI have added 5-6% to both sena and bjp candidates in Mumbai and western maharashtra. Would be wrong to attribute the wins only to a Namo wave. I think people are underestimating the strength of the sena. In the mumbai region especially the BJP just does not have the infrastructure or cadre and organisation to mount any sort of challenge Namo wave or not.
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On the issue of the shiv sena. I dont think the shiv sena care too much about the cabinet berths. For them its a case of maintaining the seat sharing formula for the assembly polls. Uddhav and the main sena leaders will contest as MLAs. The power center of the sena are their mlas. Its just a case of sena sabre rattling to ensure the BJP stick to the formula of seat sharing at Assembly level. IMO the BJP should accept the seat sharing formula at assembly level but in return allow the Sena to get more seats and project Uddhav as CM. There is still a good chance they will emerge as the bigger party in the saffron alliance and they wont be contesting many seats in the political competitive mumbai region. Rather they will have more seats in the safety of Viderabha and Marathwada. The sena in return accept one cabinet berth.
That may be the case but I don't think they will be content with just 1 cabinet berth after their best ever Lok Sabha performance.
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That may be the case but I don't think they will be content with just 1 cabinet berth after their best ever Lok Sabha performance.
In a way they do have the point. You cant compare the sena which has been the oldest ally of the BJP to a johnny come lately like Paswan and the TDP. Loyalty needs to count for something. But i think they can be placated by sticking to the seat sharing formula. That is the real bone of contention. The sena will say fine you dont want to give us berths in the central gov. In return we will keep more ministries at the state
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In a way they do have the point. You cant compare the sena which has been the oldest ally of the BJP to a johnny come lately like Paswan and the TDP. Loyalty needs to count for something. But i think they can be placated by sticking to the seat sharing formula. That is the real bone of contention. The sena will say fine you dont want to give us berths in the central gov. In return we will keep more ministries at the state
Agreed. And thats why I think they will get more berths. And Paswan shouldn't even be given one protfolio - bleddy opportunist. Sarkar koi bhi ho, yeh mantri ban hi jaata hai...
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they won 11 seats last time. Without namo i think they would have finished with 12. you have to keep in mind that SSS and RPI have added 5-6% to both sena and bjp candidates in Mumbai and western maharashtra. Would be wrong to attribute the wins only to a Namo wave. I think people are underestimating the strength of the sena. In the mumbai region especially the BJP just does not have the infrastructure or cadre and organisation to mount any sort of challenge Namo wave or not.
Am from Mumbai. And yes they have strength at municipal level here. But no leaders to talk of. They look out of date and redundant. As I said, if AAP had little brains, Maharashtra is there for taking.
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In a way they do have the point. You cant compare the sena which has been the oldest ally of the BJP to a johnny come lately like Paswan and the TDP. Loyalty needs to count for something. But i think they can be placated by sticking to the seat sharing formula. That is the real bone of contention. The sena will say fine you dont want to give us berths in the central gov. In return we will keep more ministries at the state
Sena comes with lot of baggages... Right now BJP getting max ministry is important,even Rajasthan with 25 MP got only 1 seat.
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Press Trust of India ‏@PTI_News Shiv Sena chief Uddhav Thackeray to decide tomorrow on whether to accept Heavy Industries portfolio, says Union Minister Anant Geete. Press Trust of India ‏@PTI_News We have sought a different portfolio, says Geete who did not take charge of Heavy Industries Ministry today.

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Am from Mumbai. And yes they have strength at municipal level here. But no leaders to talk of. They look out of date and redundant. As I said' date=' if AAP had little brains, Maharashtra is there for taking.[/quote'] those 11 seats they won last time only 1 game in the mumbai region. (kalyan). But it was only a matter of time they got their traditional stronghold of Thane back. That was a anomaly even in 2009. Uddhav Thakarey has been wise enough to expand into western maharashtra. More than leaders they have caused a lot of MNS defections. The sena vote this time was not cut by the MNS. RPI gave them that extra buffer.
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Sena comes with lot of baggages... Right now BJP getting max ministry is important,even Rajasthan with 25 MP got only 1 seat.
They may come with baggage but they sure as hell never talked of throwing modi in jail like the TDP's Chandrababu in the past or burnt his effigies like Paswan. The sena and akalis are have been the two parties (Uddhavs issues with the BJP due to Gadkari approaching Raj aside) who have always backed modi. I think Modi will make it right with them. The sena just need to be patient. Wait for 6 months and if they really dont mess it up they should be in power in the state and all will be forgotten. During the Atal Bihari era, sena did indeed get berths or more berths cause it was the BJP that had messed up in the 1999 maharashtra assembly elections. Had the BJP held its end up with Bat T at that time in full flow the Sena=BJP would have formed government. So maybe its just a case of Uddhav becoming CM before he calms down. He already has a chip on his shoulder after Gadkari visited Raj T behind his back.
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BJP eyes Mulayam’s Mainpuri Seat

Lucknow: Upbeat after its stupendous success in the recent Lok Sabha elections, the BJP in UP is preparing to corner Samajwadi Party president Mulayam Singh Yadav in Mainpuri which is considered his bastion. Mr Yadav, who has also won from Azamgarh, resigned his Mainpuri seat on Monday. The Samajwadi Party is all set to field Tej Pratap Yadav, grand-nephew of Mr Yadav from Mainpuri which has a dominant Yadav population. Mainpuri has around 3.5 lakh Yadav voters, 2.5 lakh Shakya voters, 1.5 lakh Lodh voters and one lakh Thakur voters. The BJP is now determined to wrest this seat from SP and demolish yet another Yadav bastion. According to BJP sources, the party had initially decided to field former chief minister Kalyan Singh from Mainpuri which also has large Lodh population but now that Mr Singh is being tipped for a gubernatorial assignment, the party has almost confirmed the candidature of Ramakant Yadav.
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/140527/nation-politics/article/bjp-eyes-mulayam%E2%80%99s-mainpuri-seat
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Cant believe there are supporters of Shiv Sena. They are as close to ideologically 'nazi party of India' as it gets. Believes in special provisions/psuedo racial superirority (marathi manus), has a convinient thinly veiled 'blame one religion for all social ills and incite against them to no end' ( anti muslim stance is not ideological but genocidal innuendos liberally mixed in as threats) and has the sort of worldview that is so dated that its shameful to let these twits interact with foreigners while representing India in any capacity. I suppose the reality is, Indians are extremely short-sighted and nepotistic lot- culturally. So long as a political option shows up that can benefit us by making us more advandtanged than the next guy for made up reasons, we will flock to them.

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With 5 ministers from Haryana at Centre, BJP takes aim at assembly polls

CHANDIGARH: With five persons having their roots in Haryana finding place in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's council of ministers, BJP is reaching out to woo Haryanvis ahead of the assembly elections in the state, due in October this year. The party had ended up with four MLAs and a vote share of 12% in the 2009 assembly polls. State BJP leaders have termed the move as party's signal to voters in the state, especially the non-Jat communities. Faridabad MP Krishan Pal Gujjar and Gurgaon MP Rao Inderjit Singh have been made Union ministers of state. Sushma Swaraj, who was born in Ambala City, Piyush Goyal, whose roots are in Yamunanagar district, and former Army chief Gen (retd) V K Singh, who hails from Bapoda village of Bhiwani, are the other three from Haryana securing berths in the Modi-led NDA government. With the induction of Gen Singh, Gujjar and Rao Inderjit, BJP is aiming to influence 27 assembly segments of Haryana, especially in the National Capital Region (NCR), sources said. "A good performance by the Union government and better coordination of the party's state unit with the central leadership will set the base for the victory of BJP-HJC alliance in the assembly elections. Gen Singh represents the serving and retired defence personnel besides the Rajput community of the state. Modi held his first rally in Rewari after being declared the BJP's prime ministerial candidate in presence of Gen Singh," BJP Kisan Morcha president Om Parkash Dhankar said. Haryana BJP chief Ram Bilas Sharma avoided comment on party aiming to divide votes on caste lines in the state for the assembly elections. However, he admitted that five ministers from Haryana at the Centre had given a boost to the morale of BJP in the state, which had not happened in the past. "Going by Lok Sabha poll results, we led in 63 out of total 90 assembly constituencies in Haryana. Together with alliance partner HJC, the figure was 70. Our seven MPs in Haryana have thus already prepared the ground. We are now waiting for the announcement of assembly polls," said Sharma. BJP secretary Captain Abhimanyu Singh, also co-in-charge of Uttar Pradesh affairs, sounded pleased over the number of leaders from the state included in the Union council of ministers. "This is the best ever representation Haryana has got in the Union government so far. You name a community of the state, we have a representative in the Union government. Besides, we will have a stable government at the Centre, giving all the reasons for the electorate to vote for BJP in the assembly elections and usher in stability and better Centre-state relations," he remarked.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/With-5-ministers-from-Haryana-at-Centre-BJP-takes-aim-at-assembly-polls/articleshow/35644355.cms
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Race on for next Tamil Nadu BJP chief

With Tamil Nadu BJP president Pon. Radhakrishnan becoming a Minister of State, the focus is now on choosing his successor. The race for the top slot has gained momentum with the expectation that Mr. Radhakrishnan is likely to resign from the post to focus on his responsibilities as a Minister. He has been given the Heavy Industries and Public Enterprises portfolio, which sources said, would require much work in case the new government undertook disinvestment in PSU’s stridently. However, a senior leader, on condition of anonymity, said the constitution of the party did not expressly bar a person from holding a party and a government post. “This is mostly a matter of convention.” Mr. Radhakrishnan would have to follow the decision that BJP national president Rajnath Singh, now the Union Home Minister, would take. “If Mr. Singh steps down from the party post, Mr. Radhakrishnan will also have to do so,” the leader pointed out, adding that two other State presidents, Harsh Vardhan of Delhi and Narendra Singh Tomar from Madhya Pradesh, had also become Union Ministers. Meanwhile, sources in the State BJP said a list of probables for president was a long one. This included L. Ganesan, who was among the leaders who built the party in Tamil Nadu from scratch in the 1990s, and C.P. Radhakrishnan, who was the party’s Coimbatore candidate in the Lok Sabha elections. Two others — H. Raja, one of the senior-most leaders and the State vice-president, and S. Mohan Rajulu, the organising secretary — were also in the fray, sources said. “While organising secretaries usually do not contest for the State president’s post without a break, there have been exceptions. Mr. Mohan Rajulu played a key role in alliance formation for the Lok Sabha elections,” a leader said. Also in the reckoning are two women leaders — Tamilisai Soundarrajan and Vanathi Srinivasan — who have, over the last two years, emerged as the party’s faces in the media. The fact that the State unit has never had a woman at the helm is adding to their advantage.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/race-on-for-next-tamil-nadu-bjp-chief/article6054636.ece
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The race is on in many other states as well where the State Prezs have made it to the Cabinet. Also, many Assembly seats (around 9 in UP) have fallen vacant due to MLAs becoming MPs - a big fight is gonna happen for these because everybody knows that chances of victory are really high. Also, elections for a few Rajya Sabha seats are to be held on 9th June - massive lobbying going on for that within BJP.
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The race is on in many other states as well where the State Prezs have made it to the Cabinet. Also' date=' many Assembly seats (around 9 in UP) have fallen vacant due to MLAs becoming MPs - a big fight is gonna happen for these because everybody knows that chances of victory are really high. Also, elections for a few Rajya Sabha seats are to be held on 9th June - massive lobbying going on for that within BJP.[/quote'] yeah i guess thats the downside of such a big victory. everybody has their hands out....: What should happen is that Modi will expand his cabinet to 55 from 45 to accomodate mostly the sena and Rajasthan. Add a token minister from WB and the PMK leader and we should be set. Plus he will drop a few ministers from Haryana and Maharashtra once assembly elections are over and if the BJP is in government in these states. For eg i can see Munde returning to the state.
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