G_B_ Posted June 1, 2014 Author Share Posted June 1, 2014 expect Uddhav to follow I guess it remains to be seen where Raj will contest from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Those who live in Mumbai are aware what these goons aka SS will do if they come in power . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi B Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 now bjp have said that the CM would be from their party and not SS. uddhaav :hehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 now bjp have said that the CM would be from their party and not SS. uddhaav :hehe: Sanjay Raut said that CM would be from SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 It all depends on the seat splitting formula. BJP and Sena will come to an understanding on the seats. ie what the split is. party with the most seats wins the CM spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 It all depends on the seat splitting formula. BJP and Sena will come to an understanding on the seats. ie what the split is. party with the most seats wins the CM spot. I think if Udhav is the CM candidate of SS (which, in all probability, he will be), BJP will accept him. Anyone else as SS candidate and BJP will ask for Munde as CM candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 I think if Udhav is the CM candidate of SS (which' date=' in all probability, he will be), BJP will accept him. Anyone else as SS candidate and BJP will ask for Munde as CM candidate.[/quote'] which is why Uddhav will take this chance to be CM. As i said before I dont think Uddhav plans to stay in politics for long. He just wants to keep his party afloat for Aditya to take the reigns in about 10 years time. That is where the fire is. Uddhav can be viewed as a care taker more than somebody who can take the party forward. Part of his goals have been realized by keeping the BMC in Sena hands still 2017. So he has secured the sena funding. Another round of victories in the BMC in 2017 will ensure the survival of the sena. Add to that the record haul of in the lok sabha and potentially a chance to be part of the government of maharashtra in whatever capacity. Once Aditya Thakarey comes of age he is probably going to eclipse most BJP leaders in the state. I think both the BJP and Sena know this. Which is why they want to cash in right now and agree to a long term formula beneficial to them. I personally dont think anybody will announce the CM candidate. Both alliances operate on the principle of who gets most seats becomes PM. NCP themselves are asking for more seats from the congress. What you will see is hoardings with big pictures of Munde for the BJP and Uddhav for the sena. Realistically Its probably going to be a 110-140 split for the bjp and sena. As things stand its 118-170. But this time around they need to make allowances for RPI Mr Mankar and SSS of Raju Shetty who should have 38 seats in total. Based on the above split the BJP should accept it. The sena though have more seats a lot of them are in the politically volatile region of mumbai where small swings count for big gains. The BJP are better places in Marathwada and Viderabha. Ie they have more sure seats. If the BJP do come to a long term (say over 15 years or 3 election cycles) with the Sena similar to the 110-140 split. Then i wont be surprised if there is a BJP CM in Maharashtra. Sooner or later the sena will have to face upto a stronger MNS in the mumbai and nashik regions. Now ofcourse if Raj merges with the sena then the BJP is on a back foot once again. Its a gamble the BJP have to take. While the MNS have the orators they dont have the infrastructure and reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 and speaking of the BJP Viderbha + marathwada have 108 seats. They need to ensure that they get a bare minimum of 40 from these two segments. They should pick up 30 from the rest. But they need to deliver in these two zones. Anything under 40 from the combine of these two regions and they have under performed. the sena will probably get 10-15 in these regions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Raj Thackeray to contest assembly elections from Dadar Nitin Sardesai, Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS) MLA representing Dadar has offered his seat to his party chief Raj Thackeray. dna had reported on May 25 that Raj would be contesting the Assembly Elections scheduled to be held in October. This was confirmed by Raj himself at a public meeting held at Somaiya Ground in Sion on Saturday. Sardesai told dna on Sunday that he would deem it an "honour" to vacate the seat in favour of Raj. Dadar is a politically significant constituency with the headquarters of both the Shiv Sena and MNS situated there. It was a bastion of the Shiv Sena till Sardesai won the seat in the last assembly election, much to the discomfort of the Shiv Sena. However, in the recent Lok Sabha polls, the Shiv Sena secured a lead over the MNS in the Dadar assembly segment. When asked whether it wouldn't be risky for Raj to contest from Dadar, given the fact that the MNS did not secure a majority in the parliamentary polls from this assembly segment, Sardesai said, "The Shiv Sena secured a majority in other Assembly segments as well. In any case, the issues in the Assembly polls will be different from the ones on which the Lok Sabha election was fought. I am confident that my leader will win by a huge margin from Dadar." If, ultimately, Raj does decide to file his papers from Dadar, then the contest will be highly interesting. The Shiv Sena may field a political heavyweight against him. The Shiv Sena nominee will not be former chief minister Manohar Joshi, who had represented Dadar earlier, because his son, Unmesh, is a business partner of Raj. In any case, Joshi had evoked the anger of Shiv Sainiks for targeting Uddhav in the run up to the LS election. Dadar is a predominantly Maharashtrian locality where the historic Shivaji Park is situated. The Shiv Sena was born in this sprawling maidan in 1966 by the late Bal Thackeray and the party is certain to make a prestige issue of winning in this constituency. An MNS corporator, who declined to be named, also stated that Raj will be contesting from Dadar. However, he added that the Nashik unit of the party is keen on Raj contesting from there. "Raj saheb may contest from both Dadar and Nashik, just like Prime Minister Narendra Modi who fought the Lok Sabha elections from Vadodara and Varanasi," he added. The Shiv Sena is also keen on its president Uddhav Thackeray entering the fray. Given the excellent performance of the Shiv Sena in the LS polls, he has a wide choice of seats. "Uddhavji may contest from any seat, either in Mumbai, Thane or from any other district. Shiv Sainiks from across the state are keen that he contest from their area. However, the choice of seat will be left to him. He has proved his mettle and we are confident that he will win with a huge margin from wherever he contests," a senior Shiv Sena leader observed. Meanwhile, the senior leadership of the BJP, including PM Narendra Modi, is keen that the party contest the assembly elections in tandem with the Shiv Sena. "There could be some differences during the seat-sharing talks. But, our brief is clear that nothing should be done which will weaken the alliance with the Shiv Sena. Uddhav enjoys a good personal equation with Modi and we are certain that the glitches with regard to sharing of seats will be sorted out well before the polls," a BJP office-bearer stated. http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-raj-thackeray-to-contest-assembly-elections-from-dadar-1992831 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 bold move.... If Raj does contest from Dadar and loses then it might spell the end of the mns. However IMO it was the only move available to him. To stay relevant he needs a min of 20 plus seats and will need a big performance in mumbai region nashik and pune to achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Disgruntled Narayan Rane on his way out of Congress: sources Mumbai: Maharashtra Industries Minister Narayan Rane is reportedly contemplating quitting the Congress. According to sources, Mr Rane is likely to announce his stand in two days. "He has kept quiet for three years but not any more," sources close to him said. Mr Rane, who has made his displeasure known several times over the functioning of the state Congress leadership, is extremely upset since his son Nilesh lost from Ratnagiri- Sindhudurg Lok Sabha seat to Shiv Sena. He stayed away from Cabinet meetings as well since Congress suffered a massive defeat, bagging only 2 out of total 27 seats it had contested in the state. The BJP-Shiv Sena combine won 42 of Maharashtra's 48 seats. Mr Rane has blamed Congress' ally, Sharad Pawar's Nationalist Congress Party (NCP) for conspiring to defeat Congress candidates. He had tendered his resignation from the Cabinet on the day results were declared but Chief Minister Prithviraj Chavan turned it down. On the issue of leadership change after the defeat, Mr Rane had said that he would discuss the issue with the party workers and make his stand known. During the campaign, Mr Rane had lamented that Congress had not utilised his services properly. Narayan Rane, who had quit Shiv Sena in 2005 to join Congress, was inducted as minister in the Vilasrao Deshmukh government. Sources close to the former Shiv sainik claimed that he had been promised chief ministership, but the Congress leadership had denied that Mr Rane's entry into the party was conditional. Mr Rane had served as chief minister for nine months in 1999 when the Shiv Sena - BJP combine was in power in the state. http://www.ndtv.com/elections/article/india/disgruntled-narayan-rane-on-his-way-out-of-congress-sources-534970?curl=1401738529 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Rumours swirling that Rane now is looking at his options in the BJP......these remains rumours mind you. I hope the BJP tell him to feck off. Their alliance with the sena will go into meltdown if they do. The options for Rane -Throw bit of a hissy fit and claim he will be staying with congress but not contest elections. Making his point to high command that he is the only face of the congress in konkan. Maybe they decide that they need him and beg him to come back before elections. - Starts his own party. Call it prahar party or something. Should be worth 6-7 MLAs. With options to merge it with somebody else in the future. -Join Raj T and become the face of the party in the Konkan in places the MNS cannot reach. (hard to see. Raj T claims to be the real heir of Balasaheb Thakarey. So he takes on a turncoat he can kiss his vote base in mumbia goodbye) -Joins the Shiv sena. (Never say never especially after BJP won 73 in UP but I will shave my head if this happens. Public enemy number 1 for the sena) - Joins the NCP ( slightly more likely than joining the sena. But blames the NCP for his sons defeat in lok sabha) - Joins the BJP. (most likely of outcomes other than staying with the congress or sitting it out or starting his own party. The BJP dont have a presence in the Konkan region. He provides them with that growing them as a party. Downsides pisses of the sena royally. Enough to make then contests seperately potentially. Will constantly aim to undermine Munde and Gadkari. Will change sides at a drop of a hat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 2, 2014 Author Share Posted June 2, 2014 Paid news case: Ex-Maharashtra CM Ashok Chavan fails to dodge framing of charges by EC MUMBAI: A week after the Lok Sabha election results were declared, former chief minister Ashok Chavan swung into action to escape the ongoing proceedings before the Election Commission in connection with the paid news controversy. He quit the membership of the legislative assembly and decided to retain the Nanded Lok Sabha seat he won. Chavan possibly felt that since he was no more a member of the legislative assembly, the poll watchdog would drop the proceedings on the grounds that now there was no cause for action. The Election Commission not only framed charges, but also decided to wind up the proceedings within 45 days, as specified in the directives of the Supreme Court. If the Election Commission passes an order against Chavan, he may lose his Lok Sabha membership as well. Such an eventuality will be most embarrassing for the Congress as Chavan is one of only two party politicians from the state to be elected to the Lok Sabha in the recent general election. The only other Congress victory was scored in Hingoli by Rajeev Satav. On Friday, the Election Commission framed charges against Chavan. The Election Commission permitted the complainants and Chavan to adduce their evidence in the form of affidavits before Wednesday. The Election Commission will again hear the case on June 9. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Paid-news-case-Ex-Maharashtra-CM-Ashok-Chavan-fails-to-dodge-framing-of-charges-by-EC/articleshow/35858288.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=TOIMumbaiNews if this guy loses his seat :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Rane is the biggest gunda in all of Maharashtra. He should not be entertained by any party, least of which BJP. He will only cause damage to whichever party accepts him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 He will just throw a fit and stay with the Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Impact of gopinath munde's death on assembly election's,Huge loss for maha bjp,infact huge loss to maha politics as well. sent from dil se Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Impact of gopinath munde's death on assembly election's,Huge loss for maha bjp,infact huge loss to maha politics as well. sent from dil se Yup. Big impact. Also, Uddhav will now most certainly be the CM candidate and Gadkari will be more involved in the campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 BJP has now lost its most recognizable face and tallest leader in Maharashtra politics. Sad day for both BJP and Maharashtra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachinrox Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 BJP's CM candidate probably was Gopinath Ji, but after his death, I don't think BJP has another candidate. Shiv Sena might get the upper hand now by projecting Uddhav as the CM, but that may not be accepted by many (including several BJP leaders). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 feck huge huge huge blow. Whats with his family? Pramod Mahajan his brother in law dead killed by his brother. Munde the face of BJP maharashtra killed in crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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