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@velu I know the economy is not doing well but why does @Stan AF keep repeating these doom and gloom stories throughout this page. Some guy who used to invest part time said to me that news of failing economy contributes heavily to economic downturn. I'm not saying this government is all roses but what would congress have done when faced with this situation. They have been in power from 2004 to 2014. What have they done that is so remarkable. Rather than posting stories about gloom and doom, stan can give solutions of how it should be done. Atleast others can get some perspective.

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16 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Jeez, I'm just posting news dude. Maybe you should ask that question to the elected government.

Ok give me your opinion on how to fix this situation. Give it a try. Otherwise you are only contributing to the problem.

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18 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Maybe you should ask why the problem came to exist in the first place and what the government is going to do rather harassing me not to post.

 

I'll do what I think is correct.

You can post at will. I'm sure mods have allowed it but removed Hindi as a national language thread. I dont know why :dontknow: I'll ask a counter question whether this problem wasn't there during previous regimes by congress. If you think this is harassment, please feel free to report it to mods.

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6 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

You can post at will. I'm sure mods have allowed it but removed Hindi as a national language thread. I dont know why :dontknow: I'll ask a counter question whether this problem wasn't there during previous regimes by congress. If you think this is harassment, please feel free to report it to mods.

Whoa!!  Jesus, take it easy dude. I'm not going to report anyone. Jeez. I was just spit balling. Frankly after WC i got bored and posting mostly only on this thread. In fact it was @velu who tagged me here in this thread first and it started rolling from there.

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On 8/30/2019 at 10:37 AM, Stan AF said:
Gold crosses record ₹40,000-mark as recession fears seep in
New Delhi, August 29, 2019 16:40 IST
Updated: August 29, 2019 16:40 IST
 
 
 

 

 

 

 

http://www.welcomenri.com/gold/gold50years-history.aspx

 

 

 

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Year    Rate(In INR)
2000    Rs.4400
2001    Rs.4300
2002    Rs.5000
2003    Rs.5700
2004    Rs.5800
2005    Rs.7000
2006    Rs.9000
2007    Rs.10800
2008    Rs.12500
2009    Rs.14500
2010    Rs.18000
2011    Rs.25000
2012    Rs.32000
2013    Rs.33000
2014    Rs.30000
 

2000 to 2014 Gold Price Chart in India

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This is the full story. You didn't tell lies. You just didn't post the full truth. Did you post the same news and asked the same questions to the previous governments :winky:

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

Just for the record, I don't believe this government has it to course correct economically. But to post doom and gloom everywhere without offering any solutions for the past however months is :facepalm:

Actually the government shot itself on its own foot by demo and a rushed up GST. They have only themselves to blame. I've actually said in an other thread about how US did Quantitative easing to come out of 2008 recession but those are literally outside our scope and powers. EA also said there is no chance of stimulus. Honestly no idea on what they're going to do.

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gold is a global commodity....

 

reflects global fears on the economic front.

 

Gold in India reflects the global price in USD and the exchange rate of USD to INR.

 

It is used as a hedge or safe investment heaven.

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On 8/31/2019 at 5:44 PM, Stan AF said:

Actually the government shot itself on its own foot by demo and a rushed up GST. They have only themselves to blame. I've actually said in an other thread about how US did Quantitative easing to come out of 2008 recession but those are literally outside our scope and powers. EA also said there is no chance of stimulus. Honestly no idea on what they're going to do.

In 2013, Raghuram Rajan came and market bounced immediately....

Has anyone watched Nirmala sitharaman press interactions? She is an angry mad lady. @velu why she looks n sounds so angry? 

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Investors lose Rs 2.6 lakh cr; Sensex posts worst percentage fall of 2019

 

 
 

Indian market were pulled down by weak global and domestic cues, as bears took control of D-Street after an extended weekend.

 

The Sensex tanked 769 points, or 2.06 percent, its biggest fall since October 2018, wiping out Rs 2.6 lakh crore of investors’ wealth. It was also the worst fall of 2019 for the index in percentage terms.

 

The Sensex closed at 36,562.91, registering its worst drop in terms of points for the first time since July 8, 2019 when it had slipped 792 points to close at 38,720.

At the close of the trade, the market capitalisation of BSE-listed companies tumbled from Rs 140.98 lakh crore recorded on August 30 to Rs 138.37 lakh crore.

 

 

The markets started the week on a negative note led by muted Q1GDP numbers and weak auto sales. The BSE Midcap and Smallcap also closed with losses of 1.7 percent and 1.3 percent, respectively.

All the sectoral indices witnessed heavy selling pressure, with consumer durables, metals and banks registering a fall of 2-3 percent.

 

 

The rupee, too, was hit and slid past Rs 72-a-dollar mark again.

“In the near term, weak domestic sentiments and uncertain global cues may continue to have a negative impact on the Indian markets. Hence, we continue to remain cautious until there are meaningful signs of revival in the economy,” Ajit Mishra, Vice President, Research, Religare Broking Ltd, told Moneycontrol.

 

 

“Further, falling rupee (vs the US dollar) is a key concern which could negatively impact the sentiments. On the global front, trade tension between the US and China is likely to induce volatility across markets.”

 

The final tally: the Sensex down 769 points at 36,562 and the Nifty down 225 points at 10,797.

 

 

More than 250 stocks hit a fresh 52-week low on the BSE. Godrej Industries, Wockhardt, Canara Bank, KSB Pumps, Omaxe, Jyothy Labs, etc. were among the stocks that were hit.

 

 

The Nifty PSU Bank saw biggest one-day fall in seven sessions, while the Nifty Bank plunged 603 points to close at 26,824. The fall was led by losses in PNB, ICICI Bank, IndusInd Bank, RBL Bank, Axis Bank, and SBI.

 

 

The Bank Nifty continued its formation of lower highs - lower lows from past four trading sessions and corrected nearly 600 points to close below 27,000 zones.

 

 

“Nifty Bank formed a bearish candle on the daily scale as sustained selling pressure is seen throughout the session,” Chandan Taparia, Associate Vice President, Analyst-Derivatives, Motilal Oswal Financial Services, said.

 

“Now, till it holds below 27,250 zones, weakness could be seen towards recent swing low of 26,550 then 26,250 zones while on the upside hurdle is seen at 27,500 levels,” he said. 

 

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/markets/investors-lose-rs-2-6-lakh-cr-sensex-posts-worst-percentage-fall-of-2019-4399051.html

 
 
 
 
 

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41 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

In 2013, Raghuram Rajan came and market bounced immediately....

Has anyone watched Nirmala sitharaman press interactions? She is an angry mad lady. @velu why she looks n sounds so angry? 

 

Nope ... When compared to other FMs she regularly interacts with the media ..

 

Everyone in the finance wants government to spend money , but overall current government is bothered abt NPAs than mad lending

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43 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

Investors lose Rs 2.6 lakh cr; Sensex posts worst percentage fall of 2019

 

 
 

Indian market were pulled down by weak global and domestic cues, as bears took control of D-Street after an extended weekend.

 

The Sensex tanked 769 points, or 2.06 percent, its biggest fall since October 2018, wiping out Rs 2.6 lakh crore of investors’ wealth. It was also the worst fall of 2019 for the index in percentage terms.

 

The Sensex closed at 36,562.91, registering its worst drop in terms of points for the first time since July 8, 2019 when it had slipped 792 points to close at 38,720.

At the close of the trade, the market capitalisation of BSE-listed companies tumbled from Rs 140.98 lakh crore recorded on August 30 to Rs 138.37 lakh crore.

 

 

The markets started the week on a negative note led by muted Q1GDP numbers and weak auto sales. The BSE Midcap and Smallcap also closed with losses of 1.7 percent and 1.3 percent, respectively.

All the sectoral indices witnessed heavy selling pressure, with consumer durables, metals and banks registering a fall of 2-3 percent.

 

 

The rupee, too, was hit and slid past Rs 72-a-dollar mark again.

“In the near term, weak domestic sentiments and uncertain global cues may continue to have a negative impact on the Indian markets. Hence, we continue to remain cautious until there are meaningful signs of revival in the economy,” Ajit Mishra, Vice President, Research, Religare Broking Ltd, told Moneycontrol.

 

 

“Further, falling rupee (vs the US dollar) is a key concern which could negatively impact the sentiments. On the global front, trade tension between the US and China is likely to induce volatility across markets.”

 

The final tally: the Sensex down 769 points at 36,562 and the Nifty down 225 points at 10,797.

 

 

More than 250 stocks hit a fresh 52-week low on the BSE. Godrej Industries, Wockhardt, Canara Bank, KSB Pumps, Omaxe, Jyothy Labs, etc. were among the stocks that were hit.

 

 

The Nifty PSU Bank saw biggest one-day fall in seven sessions, while the Nifty Bank plunged 603 points to close at 26,824. The fall was led by losses in PNB, ICICI Bank, IndusInd Bank, RBL Bank, Axis Bank, and SBI.

 

 

The Bank Nifty continued its formation of lower highs - lower lows from past four trading sessions and corrected nearly 600 points to close below 27,000 zones.

 

 

“Nifty Bank formed a bearish candle on the daily scale as sustained selling pressure is seen throughout the session,” Chandan Taparia, Associate Vice President, Analyst-Derivatives, Motilal Oswal Financial Services, said.

 

“Now, till it holds below 27,250 zones, weakness could be seen towards recent swing low of 26,550 then 26,250 zones while on the upside hurdle is seen at 27,500 levels,” he said. 

 

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/markets/investors-lose-rs-2-6-lakh-cr-sensex-posts-worst-percentage-fall-of-2019-4399051.html

 
 
 
 
 

 

 

Friday mkt went up and people made 2.3L crores :lol:

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https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/manufacturers-want-to-quit-china-but-neither-vietnam-nor-india-match-up-119082300167_1.html

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Manufacturers want to quit China, but neither Vietnam nor India match up

 

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As a result, a new global manufacturing landscape is starting to take shape, executives say. Production leaving China is getting divvied up among developing countries, with a small portion going to the US on the back of automation. The reordering of supply chains is likely to leave China with a diminished but still significant share of the pie.

The creation of new industrial clusters won’t happen overnight. Vietnam offers cheap labor, but its 100-million population is small compared with China’s 1.3 billion, and its roads and ports are already clogged. India has the manpower, but skill levels fall short and government rules are relatively restrictive.

“The question everyone is asking is: ‘Where should we go?’ ” said Giang Le, a Singapore-based analyst for strategic consulting firm Control Risks. “The answer is not obvious.”

Once in a lifetime opportunity, with Trump's trade war, will be wasted if Modi doesn't take action soon. 

 

Read the article for some of the issues that Vietnam has as of now. 

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கோவையில் மூடப்படும் தொழிற்சாலைகளால் வேலையிழப்பு!

ஆட்டோமொபைல்18:29 PM September 04, 2019

தொழில் துறையில் ஏற்பட்டுள்ள நெருக்கடி காரணமாக கோவையில் உள்ள சிறு, குறு வார்ப்பட ஆலைகளில் பணிபுரிந்து வந்த 40 ஆயிரத்துக்கும் மேற்பட்ட வடமாநில தொழிலாளர்கள் வேலை இழந்து சொந்த ஊர் திரும்பியுள்ளனர்.

 

Longer video

https://tamil.news18.com/videos/automobile/many-lose-their-job-from-the-declain-of-the-auto-mobile-industries-mj-202301.html

 

 @velu

 

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19 hours ago, Tibarn said:

https://www.business-standard.com/article/companies/manufacturers-want-to-quit-china-but-neither-vietnam-nor-india-match-up-119082300167_1.html

 

Once in a lifetime opportunity, with Trump's trade war, will be wasted if Modi doesn't take action soon. 

 

Read the article for some of the issues that Vietnam has as of now. 

 

too late to bring labor reforms now 

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31 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

 

 
 

கோவையில் மூடப்படும் தொழிற்சாலைகளால் வேலையிழப்பு!

ஆட்டோமொபைல்18:29 PM September 04, 2019

தொழில் துறையில் ஏற்பட்டுள்ள நெருக்கடி காரணமாக கோவையில் உள்ள சிறு, குறு வார்ப்பட ஆலைகளில் பணிபுரிந்து வந்த 40 ஆயிரத்துக்கும் மேற்பட்ட வடமாநில தொழிலாளர்கள் வேலை இழந்து சொந்த ஊர் திரும்பியுள்ளனர்.

 

Longer video

https://tamil.news18.com/videos/automobile/many-lose-their-job-from-the-declain-of-the-auto-mobile-industries-mj-202301.html

 

 @velu

 

 

cant do anything ..  global auto sector is in big trouble 

 

http://www.forbesindia.com/article/leaderboard/auto-slowdown-takes-global-turn/54597/1

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22 minutes ago, Tibarn said:

Why do you say that? 

 

it will take lot of time to develop the skill set .. 

labor reforms are must , but i think even with absolute majority nda will face strong opposition .. 

 

someone said that agri based economy usually moves towards manufacturing and then towards service ..

we are trying to jump from agri based economy to service based ..  

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/foreign-trade/donald-trumps-tariff-hit-us-firms-keen-to-relocate-to-india-from-china/articleshow/70972083.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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Donald Trump's tariff-hit US firms keen to relocate to India from China
USISPF president Mukesh Aghi said about 200 US companies were keen to relocate to India from China.
 

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Humphries has disclosed that the details of how many heads will roll will be shared in public in October when the company would be declaring its results for Q3 of 2019.

S. Mahadevan

Friday, September 06, 2019 - 16:29

 

 

More news of downsizing at IT major Cognizant Technologies has surfaced, this time directly from the horse’s mouth, that is, Brian Humphries, CEO of the company.

In an interaction with investors in the US (Cognizant Technologies is a company registered in the US with its headquarters in Teaneck, New Jersey), Humphries has disclosed that the details of how many heads will roll will be shared in public in October when the company would be declaring its results for the third quarter of 2019.

These job cuts will be part of an over restructuring that Humphries is trying to undertake to make Cognizant a lean and mean organisation in every sense of the word. He has said, the company has been losing contracts to rivals Tata Consultancy Services and Infosys, primarily due to higher costs, and reduction of costs is going to be one of his priorities. Brian Humphries took over as CEO at Cognizant just 4 months earlier in April 2019.

 

The CEO has said rather than doing the exercise in bits and pieces, he would rather wield the axe in one strong blow and be done with it. He has also clarified that the affected employees will be notified earlier than the date of announcement to the public. This means this month is going to be a virtual bloodbath at Cognizant if you went by the hints thrown by the CEO.  

 

 

The exact words uttered by Humphries may point to that: “We need to be draconian with the cost structure and use those savings to fund the future”.

It is important to note that for Cognizant, any stagnation has only been of recent origin. For almost 25 years, the IT giant was the envy of its rivals as it kept posting impressive results.

 

 

The CEO claims they have identified the cause of the slowdown and are going about rectifying the mistakes. One area to be looked at more closely is the salary structure of the employees. Those with clearly measurable goals will be moved to variable pay.

 

A key focus will be changing the compensation structure. One of the measures being considered is raising the variable pay component of employees’ salaries. This may specifically apply to those handling the sales and marketing activities.

 

 

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On 9/7/2019 at 11:10 AM, Stan AF said:

Humphries has disclosed that the details of how many heads will roll will be shared in public in October when the company would be declaring its results for Q3 of 2019.

S. Mahadevan

Friday, September 06, 2019 - 16:29

 

 

More news of downsizing at IT major Cognizant Technologies has surfaced, this time directly from the horse’s mouth, that is, Brian Humphries, CEO of the company.

In an interaction with investors in the US (Cognizant Technologies is a company registered in the US with its headquarters in Teaneck, New Jersey), Humphries has disclosed that the details of how many heads will roll will be shared in public in October when the company would be declaring its results for the third quarter of 2019.

These job cuts will be part of an over restructuring that Humphries is trying to undertake to make Cognizant a lean and mean organisation in every sense of the word. He has said, the company has been losing contracts to rivals Tata Consultancy Services and Infosys, primarily due to higher costs, and reduction of costs is going to be one of his priorities. Brian Humphries took over as CEO at Cognizant just 4 months earlier in April 2019.

 

The CEO has said rather than doing the exercise in bits and pieces, he would rather wield the axe in one strong blow and be done with it. He has also clarified that the affected employees will be notified earlier than the date of announcement to the public. This means this month is going to be a virtual bloodbath at Cognizant if you went by the hints thrown by the CEO.  

 

 

The exact words uttered by Humphries may point to that: “We need to be draconian with the cost structure and use those savings to fund the future”.

It is important to note that for Cognizant, any stagnation has only been of recent origin. For almost 25 years, the IT giant was the envy of its rivals as it kept posting impressive results.

 

 

The CEO claims they have identified the cause of the slowdown and are going about rectifying the mistakes. One area to be looked at more closely is the salary structure of the employees. Those with clearly measurable goals will be moved to variable pay.

 

A key focus will be changing the compensation structure. One of the measures being considered is raising the variable pay component of employees’ salaries. This may specifically apply to those handling the sales and marketing activities.

 

 

Means, there will be openings in TCS and Infosys as they got Cognizent's contracts.  

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On 9/9/2019 at 1:42 PM, Stan AF said:

 

Observing nonworking days in these companies is nothing new.  First they manufacture too much and then observe nonworking days.  In 2010, employees in Ashok Leyland had salary cuts for 5 months for nonworking days.

 

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/jobs/ashok-leyland-rolls-back-salary-cuts-across-board/articleshow/5574091.cms?from=mdr

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More evidence that state-level reforms can only go so far and national-level reforms are necessary. Garbage state governments, like the ones that Kerala seem to be perpetually cursed with will destroy anything when given enough leeway/space.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/muthoot-plans-closure-of-300-branches/article29326249.ece

 

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Muthoot Finance plans closure of 300 branches in Kerala

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The ₹36,000-crore NBFC Muthoot Finance is considering closing down around 300 of its branches in the State that the management is unable to open owing to protest by a group of employees, who are physically not allowing these branches to function.

Muthoot Finance would close down these branches permanently in a phased manner if there is no other option, said George Alexander Muthoot at a press conference here on Tuesday. He was speaking to the media after a day-long sit in by him before the corporate office on Banerjee Road in the city in protest against a group of employees not allowing the corporate office to function.

He said the Kerala portion of the company’s business had come down to 4% of the total business from the previous level of over 10%. This was due to the frequent strike by some employees. Over the past two years there were strikes that had crippled the hit of the company’s business, he said.

He claimed that the employees had no cause for complaint as Muthoot Finance offered one of the best pay packages in the industry. Over salaries, employees were given frequent incentives, bonuses. They had a pension scheme and also been offered employees’ stock option. The company had 3,000 employees in Kerala.

Mr. Muthoot also said the company had abandoned its plans to have its new headquarters in Kerala because of frequent strikes and business losses.

A statement issued by the company during the press conference said there was no trade union at the company and not a single one of the 350 employees at the company’s headquarters had joined the trade union. There were a handful of employees who had joined hands with “forces from outside” to disrupt business, he added.

 

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MG Hector 21000 bookings. Bookings closed for 2019. Kia Seltos 32000 bookings in a month. Hundayi Venue 45000 bookings in a month. 

 

Auto companies need to look themselves, their products. People are looking at something different. Sales of these three cars is an indication.

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Nirmala Sitharaman brings early Diwali for India Inc: Corporate tax slashed to 25.17% for domestic cos
Nirmala Sitharaman said the revenue foregone on reduction in corporate tax and other relief measures will be Rs 1.45 lakh crore annually

 

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BTW,

Check out the EODB rankings for the current year

https://www.doingbusiness.org/en/rankings

 

India has moved up from 100 in 2018 to 77 in 2019. 

https://www.doingbusiness.org/content/dam/doingBusiness/media/Annual-Reports/English/DB2018-Full-Report.pdf

 

The goal was to be in the top 50 by the end of Modi's first term, but it didn't work out. :((

 

One can see where India improved and where improvement is still needed here:

https://www.doingbusiness.org/en/data/exploreeconomies/india

 

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14 hours ago, velu said:

Nifty up 6% and bank nifty up by 10% ..

 

Will be interesting to see what livemint and @Stan AF will say about this :giggle:

Tax cut will also increase our fiscal deficit from 3% to over 4% ... will govt curb on spending?

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On 9/21/2019 at 4:56 AM, diga said:

Tax cut will also increase our fiscal deficit from 3% to over 4% ... will govt curb on spending?

 

Fiscal deficit will increase a bit .. 

Hope this increases spending and indirectly tax collection aswell ..

 

If Govt cuts spending , it will be in infra only , already infra companies are in trouble

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On 9/21/2019 at 4:56 AM, diga said:

Tax cut will also increase our fiscal deficit from 3% to over 4% ... will govt curb on spending?

 

On 9/22/2019 at 2:01 PM, velu said:

 

Fiscal deficit will increase a bit .. 

Hope this increases spending and indirectly tax collection aswell ..

 

If Govt cuts spending , it will be in infra only , already infra companies are in trouble

They are saying wont cut down on spending and specifically infra ..and they will meet the target of 3.3% deficit . I havent seen the details how , but seems tough ..but I think its fine to let fiscal deficit slip a bit for now 

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5 hours ago, jusarrived said:

 

They are saying wont cut down on spending and specifically infra ..and they will meet the target of 3.3% deficit . I havent seen the details how , but seems tough ..but I think its fine to let fiscal deficit slip a bit for now 

Most of our big ticket infra spends are loaned from Japanese banks at 0.01-0.15% interest rates. Don't think we are going to cut down on any of that.

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21 hours ago, velu said:

Another 400 in nifty and 1700 in bank nifty ..

 

@Stan AF  :hello:

 

At the expense of 1.5 lakh crore in revenue, you moron which will widen the already growing fiscal deficit. This isn't organic growth. You better hope that corps invest and create jobs rather than buying back shares and issuing dividends.

 

P.S: Stop tagging me everywhere.

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1 hour ago, Stan AF said:

At the expense of 1.5 lakh crore in revenue, you moron which will widen the already growing fiscal deficit. This isn't organic growth. You better hope that corps invest and create jobs rather than buying back shares and issuing dividends.

 

P.S: Stop tagging me everywhere.

 

First If you don't know what you are posting them better stop posting ..

You don't how stock market works and posted  many dumbass things like a blind dog shittimg everywhere ..

 

this is not your forum . If you post things like livemint article Without doing any research , I will put my points .

 

If you don't want me to tag or reply to you HERE then stop posting sh!t.

 

Bolded part clearly shows your stupidity , and shows your ignorance and stubbornness.

Under BJP government fiscal deficit was kept under control . Check the data befire vomiting random stuff :lol:

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