FischerTal Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 India's preparation for the start of this England tour reached its final stage when they returned to the field three days before the Trent Bridge Test. Having played two - albeit low intensity - three-day tour games, India took a two-day break from cricket activity, and made their first visit to Trent Bridge on Sunday. This is when they like to pick up intensity; they trained for close to four hours with almost all of their 18 players getting a bowl or a hit, and there might have been a hint that they are considering playing an extra bowler. India don't usually like to bat MS Dhoni at No. 6 when away from home, and it can be hazardous to read too much into what happens at the nets, but it seems they haven't ruled out the possibility of giving Stuart Binny a debut at the expense of Rohit Sharma. After the basic warm-up drills and a short game of football, the first-choice seamers - Mohammed Shami, Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Ishant Sharma - were sent to face the bowling machine while the batsmen came out to bat in the main nets - where Binny bowled for a longish duration - in what appeared to be their batting order. Shikhar Dhawan and M Vijay first, followed by Cheteshwar Pujara and Virat Kohli. Rohit, meanwhile, didn't begin padding up and worked with the strength and conditioning coach instead. Ajinkya Rahane moved into the main nets as Pujara went to face throwdowns. Kohli's exit brought MS Dhoni into the main nets, which usually might not mean anything, except that everything else followed a certain symmetry. Ravindra Jadeja batted in the main nets next, followed by Binny. Until then 11 players had been part of the main action, and 10 of them were definite starters for the first Test. Binny can't be ruled out as the 11th. Rohit and Gautam Gambhir did get to bat, but by the time they came into the main nets the main bowlers had either finished or were at the end of their spells. It seemed to be a continuation from the second tour game, played against Derbyshire last week. Binny bowled nine and six overs in the two innings there, and batted at No. 7 in the first innings for a quick and unbeaten 81. Rohit didn't bat in the first innings, and India only batted 18 overs after he came out in the second. The indication from the team is that they are keeping their options open. The team's concern is that they have struggled to take 20 wickets, which they want to address. If the pitch retains its straw-like colour, and looks to be good for batting, there is a good chance they might take that risk. If the weather remains dry and they see possibility for more spin, R Ashwin stands an outside chance too, because as batsmen Binny and Ashwin are on same plane. Binny is a military-medium bowler who is at his most effective in conditions that assist seam bowling, like he was when taking six wickets in an ODI on a damp pitch against Bangladesh. Trent Bridge is arguably the most bowler-friendly Test venue in England today. He, or more precisely a seaming allrounder, was a demand made by the team management keeping the conditions in mind. They had been desperate to get Irfan Pathan fit, but he had hardly played any first-class cricket over the last season. If India do go in with five bowlers, it will be an extraordinary move. Dhoni has never batted at No. 6 outside Asia. The last time India played five bowlers was against Australia at home, in 2012-13, and you'll struggle to find instances of India playing with five batsmen outside the subcontinent. Considering how bold and unprecedented a move it might be, it will need due thought and care, which is what - eventually - all the activity over the last week might turn out to be. One thing is for sure, though: India are considering the idea, and five bowlers remains a possibility. Source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/content/story/757983.html So it seems binny might replace rohit sharma and the first choice seamers are shami, ishant, and BK. over to you KT :bow: Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Shami, Ishant, BK, Binni and Jadeja? Pathetic bowling attack Link to comment
FischerTal Posted July 6, 2014 Author Share Posted July 6, 2014 Shami, Ishant, BK, Binni and Jadeja? Pathetic bowling attack 0-5 coming :angelic: Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Shami, Ishant, BK, Binni and Jadeja? Pathetic bowling attack only pathetic one is ishant.. others have taken wickets in some form. add pankaj/aaron instead of ishant and the attack is way more potent. only an injury or stomach bug can stop ishant now..:(( Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 only pathetic one is ishant.. others have taken wickets in some form. add pankaj/aaron instead of ishant and the attack is way more potent. only an injury or stomach bug can stop ishant now..:(( Shami is not match fit, Bhuvi is not very impressive and Ishant is Ishant. Pankaj, Aaron and Shami would hv been my pacers. Link to comment
Midfielder Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 They need to play Ashwin. He is better compared to others. Link to comment
Cricket_Hacker Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Binny and Jadeja :facepalm: Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Let me guess 5th bowler is Dhoni? Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Shami is not match fit, Bhuvi is not very impressive and Ishant is Ishant. Pankaj, Aaron and Shami would hv been my pacers. aaron will be handier on bouncier tracks with little swing. im sure pankaj will get a go too. i agree with you on selection but shami and bhuvi should be fine. i think shami just had a slight thing, shouldnt be too bad. hope binny suprises. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Binny is going to make his Test debut. Lol! Link to comment
Iconoclast Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How fast is Binny ? If he can bowl minimum 125 kph and is accurate give him a try. Remember that this is a very long series and having a fifth bowling option will prevent your main bowlers from being overworked and breaking down. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 How fast is Binny ? If he can bowl minimum 125 kph and is accurate give him a try. Remember that this is a very long series and having a fifth bowling option will prevent your main bowlers from being overworked and breaking down. 125 and the rare 130s. Not good enough to trouble their bats. Link to comment
Iconoclast Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 125 and the rare 130s. Not good enough to trouble their bats. Thats good enough pace for English conditions ... if he atleast is accurate and can keep the run rate down and is a decent bat then he should be given a try. As I said this is a five test series and having a fifth bowling option will be crucial to keeping your main bowlers fresh. Also it's a departure from Dhoni's usual failed defensive strategy overseas. Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Thats good enough pace for English conditions ... if he atleast is accurate and can keep the run rate down and is a decent bat then he should be given a try. As I said this is a five test series and having a fifth bowling option will be crucial to keeping your main bowlers fresh. Also it's a departure from Dhoni's usual failed defensive strategy overseas. Which means we play 6 batsman and well, basically 5 considering Dhoni's record there. Neither of Binny or Jadeja are good enough to contribute during a collapse. You have no clue how crap Binny is (hopefully I'm wrong). I like the 5 bowlers ploy but that's going to leave a big dent on our batting line up unless the top 5 is up for the the task. The Trent Bridge wicket looked dry, I personally don't like the idea of 4 seamers + a spinner on that track. May be for a different deck that has more assistance for the seam bowlers. I'm a fan of Bhuvi but again we can't afford both Binny and Bhuvi on a dry wicket, which is gonna get worse as the day progresses. To add to that, there is Ishant Sharma. Link to comment
Iconoclast Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Ok then drop Dhoni have Virat keep and play Nohit and Binny :P Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 If we were going to play a pace bowling allrounder, why the feck did we go with Binny over Rishi Dhawan ?! Link to comment
gslv Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Dhoni is so adamant. He has OCD about Ishant bowling I guess. I will not watch a single match if that Ishant plays. Link to comment
Old guy Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 That makes it 2.5 bowlers :headshake: Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 If we were going to play a pace bowling allrounder' date=' why the feck did we go with Binny over Rishi Dhawan ?![/quote'] Because there is no Papa Dhawan to promote him. Link to comment
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