Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[Vilander]

1 hour ago, lamellavig said:

The pitches are different, because SA actually fear Aussie bowlers. They don't fear Indian bowlers. 

blah blah..oh the pitches oh the conditions oh the opposition had more sleep time...stop with excuses.

[express bowling]

Indian fast bowling unit will be feared by the oppositions by the time the England and Australia tour are over.

 

They have been good  as a unit for the last 3 years ... but it takes  time and out-of-Asia games to build reputation. 

[tweaker]

Shankar 132 k

[tweaker]

Wicket for Shankar 

[Rightarmfast]

I like Shankar. I am afraid, I might start preferring him over Pandya.

[vishalvirsingh]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

I like Shankar. I am afraid, I might start preferring him over Pandya.

brother ...i feel exactly the opposite- Pandya is miles ahead in bowling of Shankar.

i am not sure about Batting...., vijay could be better than pandya as a batsman but we need an all rounder who should be able to bowl genuine good medium pace to be called genuine all rounder.

[Rightarmfast]

22 minutes ago, Bilal78 said:

 

It wont be feared but it is a decent attack especially in Tests.

It has been the best fast bowling attack from Asia for atleast 2-3 yrs now and you think it wont be feared? 

[Rightarmfast]

15 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

brother ...i feel exactly the opposite- Pandya is miles ahead in bowling of Shankar.

i am not sure about Batting...., vijay could be better than pandya as a batsman but we need an all rounder who should be able to bowl genuine good medium pace to be called genuine all rounder.

Pandya is not ahead as a bowler. Pandya has the ability to slip in a few balls above 140 and 145. Shankar is a thinking bowler, Vishal. He seems sensible which is very important. Currently, my viewpoint is that Shankar can blossom as a better bowler and an allrounder. But thats just me. Check with @express bowling and @rkt.india what they think.

[LORD_analyst]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

brother ...i feel exactly the opposite- Pandya is miles ahead in bowling of Shankar.

exactly.......but shankar will put pressure on pandya to perform.....good for indian cricket....but shankars bowling is pedestrian

[LORD_analyst]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

Pandya is not ahead as a bowler. Pandya has the ability to slip in a few balls above 140 and 145. Shankar is a thinking bowler, Vishal. He seems sensible which is very important. Currently, my viewpoint is that Shankar can blossom as a better bowler and an allrounder. But thats just me. Check with @express bowling and @rkt.india what they think.

hes like phelukwayo   125-130k .......pandya is about 135k and crank upto 140k....

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, Bilal78 said:

 

It wont be feared but it is a decent attack especially in Tests.

 

I said that ( primarily regarding test matches )  because 

 

1.   We have 3 pacers who average below 26 in tests in the last 3 years ... and one more averages 30.  ( see below  )

2.  Our bunch of test pacers have used pace and bounce very consistently in the last 3 years and inflicted many many physical blows on the opposition batters.

3. The bench strength for test matches is good .... another genuine fast bowler, Navdeep Saini, is ready to play test matches igoing by his bowling quality.

 

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
B Kumar	2016-2018	9	17	239.1	73	629	34	5/33	8/96	18.50	2.62	42.2	2	0
Mohammed Shami	2016-2018	18	35	492.3	102	1481	63	5/28	6/74	23.50	3.00	46.9	1	0
JJ Bumrah	2018-2018	3	6	112.1	16	353	14	5/54	7/111	25.21	3.14	48.0	1	0
I Sharma	2015-2018	20	37	522.3	115	1435	47	5/54	8/86	30.53	2.74	66.7	1	0
UT Yadav	2015-2017	24	48	617.0	127	1967	56	4/32	6/71	35.12	3.18	66.1	0	0

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=wickets;spanmax1=12+Mar+2018;spanmin1=12+Mar+2015;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

[express bowling]

23 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

hes like phelukwayo   125-130k .......pandya is about 135k and crank upto 140k....

 

Pandya has hit fastest speeds of 143 k to 146 k in many matches.

[Straight Drive]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

I said that ( primarily regarding test matches )  because 

 

1.   We have 3 pacers who average below 26 in tests in the last 3 years ... and one more averages 30.  ( see below  )

2.  Our bunch of test pacers have used pace and bounce very consistently in the last 3 years and inflicted many many physical blows on the opposition batters.

3. The bench strength for test matches is good .... another genuine fast bowler, Navdeep Saini, is ready to play test matches igoing by his bowling quality.

 

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
B Kumar	2016-2018	9	17	239.1	73	629	34	5/33	8/96	18.50	2.62	42.2	2	0
Mohammed Shami	2016-2018	18	35	492.3	102	1481	63	5/28	6/74	23.50	3.00	46.9	1	0
JJ Bumrah	2018-2018	3	6	112.1	16	353	14	5/54	7/111	25.21	3.14	48.0	1	0
I Sharma	2015-2018	20	37	522.3	115	1435	47	5/54	8/86	30.53	2.74	66.7	1	0
UT Yadav	2015-2017	24	48	617.0	127	1967	56	4/32	6/71	35.12	3.18	66.1	0	0

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=wickets;spanmax1=12+Mar+2018;spanmin1=12+Mar+2015;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

Shame that the two bowlers who have most experience from the group listed have a higher average and a higher SR. 

 

Hope Bhuvi, Shami and Jasprit don't go the Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav way,

[ind_hyd1]

What was shardul's max speed yesterday

[Mosher]

Aaron, who played for RCB until the last season, was not picked up by any franchise in the IPL 2018 auction, thanks to his history with stress fractures, which required a surgery to set a vertebra right and niggles. This made Aaron realize that he needs to put his action right in order to have a long career in cricket.

“Missing the IPL could be a blessing in disguise. Ever since I got back to the Indian team in 2014, there have been some tournament or the other and I never had time to look into the finer aspects,” Aaron told Sportstar.

“I am working on a few changes in my action which will be more efficient with the body. This wouldn’t have happened had I not got time off. It is not a major change, but a minor adjustment,” added Aaron, who is training under the watchful eyes of Australian legend Glenn McGrath at the MRF Pace Foundation.

“IPL is one of the bigger tournaments in the country and missing it is a big deal for a lot of people. I am not saying this because I am not playing this time, but I have been contemplating skipping the tournament. Last season, I thought of going and playing county instead. But I was contracted and I didn’t want to go down that path. This time, it happened by default,” he revealed.

Varun added, “I am still keen to play county.”

“When I returned to the Indian team, I was swinging the ball too. I had made a slight change to my action then. But I never had time to think on the adjustments, which was a big mistake. I should have focused on the changes that helped me get back to the team. This is a great opportunity for me to backtrack a little bit, go back to the basics and get them right. I will not compromise on pace. My way of looking at things are different and I am sure it will pay in the long run,” said Aaron

M. Senthilnathan, the chief coach at the MRF Pace Foundation said, “We (along with Glenn McGrath, the director of the academy) are trying to fine-tune his action so that his back is safe. He had a couple of back injuries and stress fractures in the past. We are trying to get an injury-free action. It is a technique to prevent injury and increase efficiency."

“We asked him to bowl with a short run-up, watch the video and then go back two yards and run in again. The idea is to get him consistent in the short run first. It takes time. When he is trying to bowl a little faster going back a few yards, he is much better than earlier but still, he is not achieving what he is getting in the short run. Eventually, he will get it,” he added.

“We are working on his technical base. If that comes along with fitness, then he will be a different bowler. Nobody doubts his abilities; leave alone the IPL, those things will follow him. As far as I am concerned, I feel he needs to play for the country again,” he added.

“One of my dreams is to help India win a series abroad,” he said, eyeing the tour down under later in 2018, as his goal to return to Team India.

 

http://www.circleofcricket.co/category/Latest_news/18284/varun-aaron-takes-help-of-mrf-pace-foundation-experts-in-a-bid-to-regain-indian-team-berth

[Vk1]

On 11/3/2018 at 5:15 PM, lamellavig said:

The pitches are different, because SA actually fear Aussie bowlers. They don't fear Indian bowlers. 

I guess a better way to put it would be to say they fear the starcs the Johnsons the Cummins type of express pacy bouncy bowlers. Philander picks bucket load wickets on juicy pitches but we don't hear people saying they are scared of Philander.

[vishalvirsingh]

20 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

I said that ( primarily regarding test matches )  because 

 

1.   We have 3 pacers who average below 26 in tests in the last 3 years ... and one more averages 30.  ( see below  )

2.  Our bunch of test pacers have used pace and bounce very consistently in the last 3 years and inflicted many many physical blows on the opposition batters.

3. The bench strength for test matches is good .... another genuine fast bowler, Navdeep Saini, is ready to play test matches igoing by his bowling quality.

 

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
B Kumar	2016-2018	9	17	239.1	73	629	34	5/33	8/96	18.50	2.62	42.2	2	0
Mohammed Shami	2016-2018	18	35	492.3	102	1481	63	5/28	6/74	23.50	3.00	46.9	1	0
JJ Bumrah	2018-2018	3	6	112.1	16	353	14	5/54	7/111	25.21	3.14	48.0	1	0
I Sharma	2015-2018	20	37	522.3	115	1435	47	5/54	8/86	30.53	2.74	66.7	1	0
UT Yadav	2015-2017	24	48	617.0	127	1967	56	4/32	6/71	35.12	3.18	66.1	0	0

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?bowling_pacespin=1;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=10;qualval1=wickets;spanmax1=12+Mar+2018;spanmin1=12+Mar+2015;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=bowling

 

 

i was very excited about Nathu Singh who was a 138 to 146k bowler and i hear he is back to fitness now...if he is truly impressive which i feel he is, he can be challenging BHuvi/shammi/shardul and Umesh soon.

[LORD_analyst]

1 hour ago, Mosher said:

One of my dreams is to help India win a series abroad,” he said, eyeing the tour down under later in 2018, as his goal to return to Team India.

 

http://www.circleofcricket.co/category/Latest_news/18284/varun-aaron-takes-help-of-mrf-pace-foundation-experts-in-a-bid-to-regain-indian-team-berth

that should the  target of every indian  upcoming pacer ...great to hear that!

Edited March 13, 2018 by LORD_analyst

[rkt.india]

[tweaker]

Siraj 141 k