Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[vishalvirsingh]

8 hours ago, rkt.india said:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india/content/player/1083033.html

 

Now Cricinfo too has created his profile. It says 24, will be 25 in 4 months. Don't know why this guy has been identified so late. I will be surprised if this guy doesnt come into national reckoning in the next one year.

there are many fast medium bowlers ahead of him at least as of now.

 

if he was well known and genuinely too quick..apart from Mumbai Indians others may have also shown interest in picking him..he was bought at 10 Lakhs and no one else showed interest.

are you saying other IPL talent scouts were really sleeping.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, MultiB48 said:

if you move states it takes 2 yrs of club cricket to be eligible for selection ie if you are not selected as a professional

yes, this probably happened with him too. He has been training in Delhi for last two years.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Bleed-Blue said:

He will be 25 in 2 weeks 

oh yeah, how did I miss, i thought it was 246 days.

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

there are many fast medium bowlers ahead of him at least as of now.

 

if he was well known and genuinely too quick..apart from Mumbai Indians others may have also shown interest in picking him..he was bought at 10 Lakhs and no one else showed interest.

are you saying other IPL talent scouts were really sleeping.

He is certainly genuinely quick, quicker than Aniket, quicker than Nathu. There have been a lot of such bowlers who have progressed to national reckoning within one year. He is a rare talent. Left arm plus fast and pretty accurate too. He went for trials at DD too but it is all about requirements and his relative no FC experience played its part too. Delhi already had 4-5 Indian pacers. MI did not have many Indian pacers apart from Bumrah and Legend. Also, he plays for Reliance One club team which is owned by Ambanis. Delhi has picked him for Vijay Hazare trophy because he is quick.

[Cricketics]

2 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

there are many fast medium bowlers ahead of him at least as of now.

 

if he was well known and genuinely too quick..apart from Mumbai Indians others may have also shown interest in picking him..he was bought at 10 Lakhs and no one else showed interest.

are you saying other IPL talent scouts were really sleeping.

It can easily happen. Some players are given more attention by a particular coach or staff member or raises the guy's name to the management and pushes for the selection, while some don't show interest at all as they feel they have enough quality bowlers.

 

Mumbai has in management lot of legends and have had history of picking top Indian talents and performers like Bumrah, Zaheer in the past because they have always looked onto maintaining the bowling culture. They always had terrific overseas bowlers. They had Malinga pretty much throughout too and appointed Shane bond to look after bowling.

 

 

Also Robin Singh is a batting coach who asissts a lot in other stuff like finding even good bowlers. He did the same in USA. He would go to every state in U.S and its league and find the best bowlers. So they really want to develop someone, and they saw spark in Kushwant Khejroliya probably and hence  went for him.

 

 

[rkt.india]

16 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

It can easily happen. Some players are given more attention by a particular coach or staff member or raises the guy's name to the management and pushes for the selection, while some don't show interest at all as they feel they have enough quality bowlers.

 

Mumbai has in management lot of legends and have had history of picking top Indian talents and performers like Bumrah, Zaheer in the past because they have always looked onto maintaining the bowling culture. They always had terrific overseas bowlers. They had Malinga pretty much throughout too and appointed Shane bond to look after bowling.

 

 

Also Robin Singh is a batting coach who asissts a lot in other stuff like finding even good bowlers. He did the same in USA. He would go to every state in U.S and its league and find the best bowlers. So they really want to develop someone, and they saw spark in Kushwant Khejroliya probably and hence  went for him.

 

 

Kulwant plays for their own club team Reliance One along with Nathu and Baba Shafi Pathan. There must be something they didnt bid for Nathu and Shafi but did for Kulwant. India is a big country and there may be many more such talents like Kulwant in the oblivion trying to impress people that matter and lot of such players miss out due to nepotism at lower level and they dont have resources and support.

 

Another reason, other franchise didn't know or bid for him because he has no FC experience. very rarely teams pick such cricketers who lack that proven ability that likes of Thampi, Natarajan, Aniket have.

 

If you had watched the auction, Brad Hodge had an amusing smile on his face when MI bid for him. People from MI also had the same sort of smile. They had similar type of reaction for Nicholas Pooran too who they picked for base price.

Edited February 22, 2017 by rkt.india

[vishalvirsingh]

21 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He is certainly genuinely quick, quicker than Aniket, quicker than Nathu. There have been a lot of such bowlers who have progressed to national reckoning within one year. He is a rare talent. Left arm plus fast and pretty accurate too. He went for trials at DD too but it is all about requirements and his relative no FC experience played its part too. Delhi already had 4-5 Indian pacers. MI did not have many Indian pacers apart from Bumrah and Legend. Also, he plays for Reliance One club team which is owned by Ambanis. Delhi has picked him for Vijay Hazare trophy because he is quick.

Hope you are correct.

Left arm 140 to 148k pacer is a dream for many captains.

Nehra the old man is played only bcos he is left arm quick...he still touches 139k..140k when he stretches and has bounce.

If he can learn from nehra ...he has bright chances as bran and aniket are also not too quick. He will have competetion from aniket and sran only.

[rkt.india]

Last year, John Wright was the talent scout for MI who picked Bumrah, Pandya brothers, etc.

[Cricketics]

5 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

If you had watched the auction, Brad Hodge had an amusing smile on his face when MI bid for him. People from MI also had the same sort of smile. They had similar type of reaction for Nicholas Pooran too who they picked for base price.

Surprised Pooran wan't shown interest among others. Don't they broadcat CPL in India? CPL is a carnival and big hit in this continent. 

[rkt.india]

3 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Surprised Pooran wan't shown interest among others. Don't they broadcat CPL in India? CPL is a carnival and big hit in this continent. 

they do on Sony SIX.

[MCcricket]

24 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

Hope you are correct.

Left arm 140 to 148k pacer is a dream for many captains.

Nehra the old man is played only bcos he is left arm quick...he still touches 139k..140k when he stretches and has bounce.

If he can learn from nehra ...he has bright chances as bran and aniket are also not too quick. He will have competetion from aniket and sran only.

Sangwan as well

[MCcricket]

52 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He is certainly genuinely quick, quicker than Aniket, quicker than Nathu. There have been a lot of such bowlers who have progressed to national reckoning within one year. He is a rare talent. Left arm plus fast and pretty accurate too. He went for trials at DD too but it is all about requirements and his relative no FC experience played its part too. Delhi already had 4-5 Indian pacers. MI did not have many Indian pacers apart from Bumrah and Legend. Also, he plays for Reliance One club team which is owned by Ambanis. Delhi has picked him for Vijay Hazare trophy because he is quick.

I cannot see ascertain how quick he is but looks 140 ish, n has a very good natural action is athletic n lithe n seems to be confident n bowls aggressively.

Indian cricket is turning a corner for sure with these developments, we should have a world class attack n backup bowlers now that we never had in the past.

 

[express bowling]

54 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

He is certainly genuinely quick, quicker than Aniket, quicker than Nathu. There have been a lot of such bowlers who have progressed to national reckoning within one year. He is a rare talent. Left arm plus fast and pretty accurate too.

 

Kulwant needs to leave a mark in this IPL if he gets some chances to play.

 

Even if he bowls decently and hits 150 k.... he will be noticed.

[prudent_kreeda]

4 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

Sangwan as well

    OH !  

    Did we notice suddenly this year we have  several quality lefties doing well . 

    Now we have a choice of Aniket , Sangwan , Kulwant and may be Sran .

 

    I think its after almost 10 years  we have this Luxury .

    The last set  was of RP, Irfan , Nehra , Zak  

[MCcricket]

On 2/20/2017 at 7:24 PM, rkt.india said:

I apalled why Kamran isn't playing Ranji trophy. He just played two games a few years back where he did okay.

Yes ,I think it's sad, he had pace n a unique action n if groomed could serve us well in limited overs format

[Cricketics]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Even if he bowls decently and hits 150 k.... he will be noticed.

150k is a lot. Even 140-142k consistent showing will earn him good name and will get noticed.

 

I am not exactly sure how fast he is bowling at this time so not expecting him to hit 150 or have any hopes at this time, but if he can hit 142-143, then eventually with time he can bowl even faster with more training because he has the built to make it happen easily.

 

 

 

 

[vishalvirsingh]

I will dance on mumbai streets if India beats Australia or England in their country.

 

Winning in India against them just gives me satisfaction nothing more.

With these pacers I have little hope.

[vishalvirsingh]

6 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Kulwant needs to leave a mark in this IPL if he gets some chances to play.

 

Even if he bowls decently and hits 150 k.... he will be noticed.

Even if he touches 145k

 

He Will  be noticed and talked about though there could be few Indian pacers who will touch 145k.

[rkt.india]

10 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

150k is a lot. Even 140-142k consistent showing will earn him good name and will get noticed.

 

I am not exactly sure how fast he is bowling at this time so not expecting him to hit 150 or have any hopes at this time, but if he can hit 142-143, then eventually with time he can bowl even faster with more training because he has the built to make it happen easily.

 

 

 

 

In the dy patil, he looked quicker than Aniket and Nathu who themselves bowl 138-142 range.

[Cricketics]

4 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said:

I will dance on mumbai streets if India beats Australia or England in their country.

Winning in India against them just gives me satisfaction nothing more.

With these pacers I have little hope.

Need good bowling spells like that from Agarkar in Adelaide in the 3rd innings. Surely bowlers are capable of doing that.

 

What we have in our favor is batting to support our bowling. Same thing which South Africa have had, even though their bowlers are better, you still need batting support.

 

With the strong trio of Pujara-Kohli-Rahane and good bowling combo, you can beat Australia in Australia.

 

One thing is we need to make harsh decisions to win overseas. Can't have our spinners leaking runs like how Yasir Shah leaked on recent tours. That just puts pressure on other bowlers to bowl defensive. We have to have a better spinner who is not leaking runs that easily and actually putting pressure on Aussies to earn runs because that will make them attack our seamers or look to always score runs of our seamers, and we want that to happen.

Our bowlers will be attacking more if our spinner is bowling well and we will surey get more wickets.

 

We can win in Australia.