Khota Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 Shami is currently not fit enough to play. I do not understand the love for Shami on the board. Bleed-Blue and King Tendulkar 2 Link to comment
Khota Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 5 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: I am tempted to rest hardik and ashwin. Play all 4 pacers umesh shammi bumrah bhuvi. If i decide to Drop bhuvi ..i feel as if I am biased against bhuvi and am taking wrong decision as he has improved. Umesh and bumrah looked unplayable yesterday...they looked as if bowling at 145k consistently and fastish Yorkers n bouncers..they were toying with batsman. If these 4 are selected along with jaddu..pak cannot score 150 runs. If hardik is selected as 5th bowler some batsman may get stuck and pak may score 190 runs. India will win either way. If all 4 are selected and all 4 are as accurate as yesterday...pak will really do well to score 160 runs. I had declared Australia will win tournament but if kohli picks all 4 pacers and our batsman support them ..who knows India wins. All 4 are looking terrific but hardik as a pacer is not in rhythm. Ash should be benched for the entire tournament. 4 pacers and one spinner is a good strategy against Pakistan. Three spinners would be good strategy against SA. The key in cricket and all other sports is to create mismatches. If India is fortunate to progress to next stage they will need three spinners and that is where the selectors missed a trick by picking Ashwin. Should have one more selection. I give F to the selectors for their effort. Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 53 minutes ago, Khota said: 4 pacers and one spinner is a good strategy against Pakistan. Three spinners would be good strategy against SA. The key in cricket and all other sports is to create mismatches. If India is fortunate to progress to next stage they will need three spinners and that is where the selectors missed a trick by picking Ashwin. Should have one more selection. I give F to the selectors for their effort. my dear these tracks in england do not offer any assistance to spinners. Jaddu was bowling at 103k and ashwin was bowling a even turning at 85k but the turn was so slow that he was hit at the back foot where as Jaddy was bowling flat yorker type balls .. i bet even jaddu will get hit by good batsman. these tracks Spinners will be hit for 65+ runs in their 10 overs..on these tracks any spinner would be hit badly just see the matches. These pitches offer some bounce and hence fast bowlers who are smart get some advantage. Umesh Shammi and Bumrah have the capability to get good bounce and Bhuvi can swing the ball well.. if you remember umesh's bouncer was hooked straight into dhoni's hands and shammi also got the opener out of a ball which bouncer. if Jaddu can keep the batsman quite then it will be a big win. yesterday batsman attacked him and jaddu n dhoni were smart. Link to comment
Khota Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 34 minutes ago, vishalvirsingh said: my dear these tracks in england do not offer any assistance to spinners. Jaddu was bowling at 103k and ashwin was bowling a even turning at 85k but the turn was so slow that he was hit at the back foot where as Jaddy was bowling flat yorker type balls .. i bet even jaddu will get hit by good batsman. these tracks Spinners will be hit for 65+ runs in their 10 overs..on these tracks any spinner would be hit badly just see the matches. These pitches offer some bounce and hence fast bowlers who are smart get some advantage. Umesh Shammi and Bumrah have the capability to get good bounce and Bhuvi can swing the ball well.. if you remember umesh's bouncer was hooked straight into dhoni's hands and shammi also got the opener out of a ball which bouncer. if Jaddu can keep the batsman quite then it will be a big win. yesterday batsman attacked him and jaddu n dhoni were smart. I agree. But good quality spinners have been taking wkts on these tracks. Australia and other teams do not have the depth and quality of spin that India does have. Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Superb fast bowling by Umesh and Bhuvi in their opening spells. Page, bounce accuracy and movement. Umesh has picked up 2 wickets and Bhuvi has got 1 so far. Edited May 30, 2017 by express bowling Mosher, MK55, King Tendulkar and 4 others 7 Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) It will be very difficult to drop any of the 4 fast bowlers. All are bowling superbly. Can we play 5 fast bowlers including Pandya, with Kedar Jadhav doing the spinner's job ? After all, it is England and the ball is moving around at this time of the year. Edited May 30, 2017 by express bowling beetle, Mosher and Rightarmfast 3 Link to comment
Popular Post express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Bhuvi picks up 2 wickets with good bouncers so far. He is looking so much more potent after he has added pace and bounce. Similarly, Umesh is looking much more potent after he has become accurate. This is why we talk about combining pace / bounce with skills at international level along with the ability to hit the deck hard when needed. It is not an " either / or " case. Edited May 30, 2017 by express bowling Rightarmfast, Adi_91, Vilander and 7 others 10 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Bhuvi picks up 2 wickets with good bouncers so far. He is looking so much more potent after he has added pace and bounce. Similarly, Umesh is looking much more potent after he has become accurate. This is why we talk about combining pace / bounce with skills at international level along with the ability to hit the deck hard when needed. It is not an " either / or " case. still at work. Couldnt see! Damn, I missed it Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rightarmfast said: still at work. Couldnt see! Damn, I missed it RAFbhai, Bangladesh is now 23 for 6 Umesh and Bhuvi have picked up 3 wickets each. Genuine fast bowling going on.... ball flying through to the keeper Edited May 30, 2017 by express bowling King Tendulkar, Rightarmfast and Mosher 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Shami bowling quick and accurately. Has picked up a wicket and bowled 3 superb bouncers in his first 2 overs giving only 6 runs Edited May 30, 2017 by express bowling Rightarmfast and King Tendulkar 2 Link to comment
Mosher Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, express bowling said: This is why we talk about combining pace / bounce with skills at international level along with the ability to hit the deck hard when needed. It is not an " either / or " case. Forget it bro. They will never get it. Haters will take the example of Aaron and keep shouting like a broken record. Laaloo, express bowling and Vilander 3 Link to comment
cowboysfan Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 We have a dilemma on our hands.umesh has picked up where he left off in the tests and he He can't be dropped.if we have to win the CT then it's with our bowling again and I say play all 4 pavers and drop Ashwin . Link to comment
Pollack Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 So if Shami is unfit we have replacement who is also very good. Umesh. Laaloo and Ankit_sharma03 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Bhuvi got two wickets with short deliveries. Another skill he has really picked up recently Edited May 30, 2017 by New guy beetle, express bowling, Vilander and 3 others 6 Link to comment
New guy Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 36 minutes ago, express bowling said: Shami bowling quick and accurately. Has picked up a wicket and bowled 3 superb bouncers in his first 2 overs giving only 6 runs Does he look 100% fit? Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 (edited) Has anyone counted how many times Sanju Manju has said " INDIAN SEAMERS " on a day all 5 of our fast bowlers have bowled really quick ? Must have crossed 100 times. And he was also making his point clear by saying Bangladeshi Fast Bowlers. Manju has serious self-confidence issues. Edited May 30, 2017 by express bowling Rightarmfast, Mosher, Vilander and 6 others 9 Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 1 minute ago, New guy said: Does he look 100% fit? Shami is running in much better today and bowling with a lot of pace and bounce. Looks sufficiently fit . Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
Popular Post express bowling Posted May 30, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2017 One thing very pleasing to me was the style of bowling India adopted on a day the ball was not swinging that much but there was seam movement and bounce on offer. All our 5 fast bowlers hit the deck hard and got consistent bounce and seam movement. Result.... Bangladesh 84 all out. The 3 basic skills required for fast bowlers these days in tests and ODIs unless bowling at the death -- Hitting the deck hard and getting bounce and seam movement at pace. -- Pitching the ball up for swing -- Getting the ball to reverse at pace. All the Indian fast bowlers in this team are developing all these 3 skills and using them as when required.. and I really like it. We are not a one-trick-pony pace bowling side anymore. New guy, speedheat, King Tendulkar and 9 others 12 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 hours ago, express bowling said: One thing very pleasing to me was the style of bowling India adopted on a day the ball was not swinging that much but there was seam movement and bounce on offer. All our 5 fast bowlers hit the deck hard and got consistent bounce and seam movement. Result.... Bangladesh 84 all out. The 3 basic skills required for fast bowlers these days in tests and ODIs unless bowling at the death -- Hitting the deck hard and getting bounce and seam movement at pace. -- Pitching the ball up for swing -- Getting the ball to reverse at pace. All the Indian fast bowlers in this team are developing all these 3 skills and using them as when required.. and I really like it. We are not a one-trick-pony pace bowling side anymore. Yes rightly put, all about having the ability to extract something out in some way to make the batsman do a mistake. Not every day it will be overcaste and the new ball wont last long so the ability to extract somethinv when nothing is happening is what we look for . The people who blame us being blind followers of speed, no we dnt look for speed only mention above are the things we look for not one dimension bowlers like unadkat n gang express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Has anyone counted how many times Sanju Manju has said " INDIAN SEAMERS " on a day all 5 of our fast bowlers have bowled really quick ? Must have crossed 100 times. And he was also making his point clear by saying Bangladeshi Fast Bowlers. Manju has serious self-confidence issues. Yup wrote many times he is true repersentative of our team in 90s .....lack of self beilief in himself n everyone around. Still he wont admit the fact how his theory on bhuvi loosing the plot due to gaining speed is proven wrong express bowling 1 Link to comment
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