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19 hours ago, kubrickian said:

He is generally a 130kph bowler. Sometimes he is in 140+kph but not consistently.

 

19 hours ago, kubrickian said:

Looks like coaches still put more emphasis on getting movement than outright pace. All these upcoming bowlers like Siddharth Kaul, Shardul Thakur, Dhawal Kulkarni are in that swing bowler mold like B Kumar rather than looking for outright pace. Need more Varun Aaron or even Ishant Sharma (with lot more control and skill) type bowlers. Only Basil Thampi comes close in terms of ability.

 

Umesh is one of the few bowlers who has pace, stamina and skills but has no temperament or thinking ability and hence has not delivered as much as he should have.

 

Thakur bowls 130 k to 145 k range, can hit the deck hard and has a good bouncer.

 

Among new pacers....

 

Thampi, Siraj, Avesh, Nathu, Nagarkoti and Khejroliya can become genuinely quick bowlers as they have the raw pace and want to bowl quick.

 

Thakur, Navdeep, Aniket and Rajpoot are fast-medium and most of these guys get good bounce.

 

Dhawal is not in the reckoning now for an international spot.

 

 

Among international pacers.... Shami, Umesh, Bumrah, Ishant and Aaron can be considered fast bowlers.

 

Even Pandya and Bhuvi have become fast-medium now.... and have good bouncers, especially Pandya.

 

Don't see any medium pacer in reckoning for a national spot.

 

 

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2 hours ago, kubrickian said:

Looks like coaches still put more emphasis on getting movement than outright pace. All these upcoming bowlers like Siddharth Kaul, Shardul Thakur, Dhawal Kulkarni are in that swing bowler mold like B Kumar rather than looking for outright pace. Need more Varun Aaron or even Ishant Sharma (with lot more control and skill) type bowlers. Only Basil Thampi comes close in terms of ability.

 

Umesh is one of the few bowlers who has pace, stamina and skills but has no temperament or thinking ability and hence has not delivered as much as he should have.

1) Don't know if coaches still pay importance to movement than pace but young kids are obsessed with pace.

2)Shardul is not in B Kumar mould.

3)We don't need Ishant or Varun type of bowlers. Shami, Siraj types are also fine.

4) Thampi is the least capable in terms of abilities among the other contenders.

5) Agreed on Umesh. 

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1 hour ago, MultiB48 said:

there arent that many quicks ,how many can in indai can bowl over 140k consistently but then you do have cases like that guy in haryana who bowls 140k but cant get into the ranji side,

Its funny how often that happens, Avesh Khan finds it hard to get into his Ranji side and got few games in IPL, Khejoriya who performed brilliantly in the local t20 competition couldn't get one game for MI, nathu singh also has been overlooked, there are other cases that I may be missing, I am guessing the criteria for most domestic teams rarely zeroes in on raw pace and potential

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5 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Dont think its easy to say. It could be 125 for all we know. The thing is, the bowler seems to have a strong and steady action.

yes, very good runup and bowling action, will get good outswing. Action is a bit similar to Woakes though he bowls from very close to the stumps. He has been an MRF trainee.

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Umesh bowling poorly so far

 

Not looking in rhythm, pace is down, spraying the ball on both sides.

 

19 runs from 2 overs in a test match opening spell with batters defending mostly.

 

Punctuating this with a couple of magic balls which may get wickets.

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4 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Umesh bowling poorly so far

 

Not looking in rhythm, pace is down, spraying the ball on both sides.

 

19 runs from 2 overs in a test match opening spell with batters defending mostly.

 

Punctuating this with a couple of magic balls which may get wickets.

Umesh will probably never become a test quality bowler. Way too inconsistent, poor temperament and doesnt have thinking ability. These are not qualities of a test bowler. He is in the side only because he can generate decent pace and swing but without control, these mean nothing.

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