Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[LORD_analyst]

1 hour ago, the don said:

90 mph from usman shinwari .

Consistently bowling brisk pace.

Fit guy . Has an awkard action but can potentially get quicker .

********ugly action....i reckon

[the don]

1 hour ago, Rightarmfast said:

Lolz.. Watched 2 overs of Usman continuously. Fastest ball was at 133! And that too in a T20! And the commentators were gushing how fast Usman was... And that's how hype is created. 

How about a trip to the specsavers mate ?? Stop making stuff up.

His average pace isnt even that slow.

 

 

[the don]

7 hours ago, LORD_analyst said:

 

 

 

just exclude the speed  of frequently used slower balls of bumrah and you might notice  that he was bowling faster than waqar younis in his time .......loolz

 

23 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said:

todays game india vs newzealand bhuvi got 3 and bumrah 2 wickets ...see the pace..25th october game

 

Bumrah has been unable to replicate his champions trophy pace . Worrying for someone who only plays limited overs cricket.

 

[LORD_analyst]

2 hours ago, the don said:

 

Bumrah has been unable to replicate his champions trophy pace . Worrying for someone who only plays limited overs cricket.

 

nah he bowls many slower balls (off  cutters ) if you exclude them then his avg. pace will be 137ks .....which means his 2-3 balls in an over are around 140 k mark ....good enough .

also on indian unresponsive pitches control is more important than pace so he can just drop his pace about 3-5 ks and bring in more control...... but i agree bumrah in ct 17 was setting speed guns on fire....

[rkt.india]

8 hours ago, the don said:

 

Bumrah has been unable to replicate his champions trophy pace . Worrying for someone who only plays limited overs cricket.

 

Or may they were using highest reading in CT while in India we use middle reading.

[Vilander]

9 hours ago, the don said:

How about a trip to the specsavers mate ?? Stop making stuff up.

His average pace isnt even that slow.

 

 

You are quoting t20 speeds lol. What are your bowlers test speed ? 

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

You are quoting t20 speeds lol. What are your bowlers test speed ? 

 

Even in ODIs, Usman Khan's fastest balls were around 141 k..... clearly lower than T20Is.

 

These Pakistani pacers are bowling medium pace in tests, fast-medium to medium-fast  in ODIs and fast-ish in T20Is

 

Clear case of lack of stamina.

Edited October 27, 2017 by express bowling

[the don]

10 hours ago, LORD_analyst said:

nah he bowls many slower balls (off  cutters ) if you exclude them then his avg. pace will be 137ks .....which means his 2-3 balls in an over are around 140 k mark ....good enough .

also on indian unresponsive pitches control is more important than pace so he can just drop his pace about 3-5 ks and bring in more control...... but i agree bumrah in ct 17 was setting speed guns on fire....

He was brisk but no he wasnt setting any speed guns on fire . There were faster bowlers in the tournament .

Bumrah has come through a proper system and is at his peak potential pace wise . He needs to sustain pace to mantain efficiency.

[the don]

4 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Or may they were using highest reading in CT while in India we use middle reading.

I doubt thats the case or at least wasn't so previously .

I have seen bowlers clock very high speed on the tours to India over the years .

[the don]

3 hours ago, Vilander said:

You are quoting t20 speeds lol. What are your bowlers test speed ? 

Maybe because i was talking about the t20 game that took place last night ?? 

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, the don said:

He was brisk but no he wasnt setting any speed guns on fire . There were faster bowlers in the tournament .

He was bowling 137 k to 148 k in CT17, which is fast and not just brisk.

 

6 minutes ago, the don said:

He needs to sustain pace to mantain efficiency.

 

Bumrah's normal pace range has always been  135 k   to   142 k / 145 k.   He always sustains this normal pace in ODIs and T20s.

 

in CT17 , he was bowling quicker than he normally does .... probably because he did not not have to try slower balls on those pitches that did not grip .... and his bowling rhythm was not disturbed.

 

6 minutes ago, the don said:

and is at his peak potential pace wise .

No ... Indians usually bowl their quickest between 25 to 29  .... and Bumrah is just 23.

[express bowling]

2 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

Also guys Usman Khan Shinwari is fast. 

He was bowling 132 k to 141 k most of the time in ODIs .... which is fast-medium.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Shaz1 said:

141 k is not slow dude. Lol

 

Who says  it's slow  ? 

 

I specifically said that 132 k to 141 k range is  fast-medium .... do you have a problem with comprehension  ?

Edited October 27, 2017 by express bowling

[Kohlifan]

59 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

141 k is not slow dude. Lol

It becomes slow or thunderbolts when Indian bowlers bowl that... 

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

No you quoted me claiming he is fast medium. I said he is still fast. So why quote me claiming he is fast medium when there is nothing to dispute he is fast? Before quoting someone either bring some sort of argument or a point. These nothing posts do nothing but make you seem intelligent like you are right now.

 

It is very difficult to find the point of this post.

 

132 k to 141 k is fast-medium and NOT fast like you claimed.  That is what I pointed out.

[express bowling]

18 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

Lol Its still fast not medium.

 

We Indians consider our 132 k to 141 k pacers fast-medium.   Good to know that they are fast in Pakistan these days.   

 

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Stop trying to sound political correct. Some people were trying to make him sound like a medium pacer.

 

You can't find a point to that post than question my comphrehension skills? Maybe you are the one who needs some reading classes. What you are looking for is a political correct answer by making it sound like I was talking about a 150 plus bowler. Anyone with a brain would know what I was talking about. No need for this meaningless correction.

 

We Indians need reading classes to understand posts by some Pakistanis ..... that is true.    

 

There is a difference between  " factually correct "  and " politically correct "  .

Edited October 27, 2017 by express bowling

[express bowling]

6 minutes ago, Shaz1 said:

Lmao This guy turned a post towards him to "we Indians". Another way of calling his comrades to slay a Pakistani poster. I won't fall for it. Gonna block this one with my straight defence.

 

Pakistani batters generally have a weak defence    

Edited October 27, 2017 by express bowling

[LORD_analyst]

2 hours ago, the don said:

He was brisk but no he wasnt setting any speed guns on fire . There were faster bowlers in the tournament .

Bumrah has come through a proper system and is at his peak potential pace wise . He needs to sustain pace to mantain efficiency.

apt definition of bumrah:     " Bowls faster than Amir with a runup shorter than that of shahid afridi"....lol

[the don]

19 minutes ago, LORD_analyst said:

apt definition of bumrah:     " Bowls faster than Amir with a runup shorter than that of shahid afridi"....lol

LOL . But shahid afridi was quicker than pretty much every Indian bowler at the time .

[the don]

2 hours ago, Shaz1 said:

Also guys Usman Khan Shinwari is fast. There is no doubt about it. He is not a complete bowler yet but boy does he swing it by a mile. I was never impressed with him before this series but he humbly proved me wrong. He has improved immensly. He will continue to as well. We got a incredible fast bowling bench. Pakistan fast bowling is back baby.

He is not fast yet . Has the potential to get quicker though . Sure his average pace may be quicker than the bowlers mentioned in this thread but they are no more than fast medium themselves.

 

 

The good thing is that the pace bowling stocks are looking very very healthy with some serious talent coming through . Exciting times . Pakistan should mantain its status as the best limited overs bowling lineup for a long time.

Edited October 27, 2017 by the don