RAZPOR Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shaz1 said: Indian bowlers lack that fast bowler feel Pakistani fast bowlers have. They lack that swag. Hence why they look like spinners. Tell us some stories about jinns too now ...now that you are at it. Edited October 27, 2017 by RAZPOR express bowling and LORD_analyst 2 Link to comment
RAZPOR Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, the don said: He is not fast yet . Has the potential to get quicker though . Sure his average pace may be quicker than the bowlers mentioned in this thread but they are no more than fast medium themselves. The good thing is that the pace bowling stocks are looking very very healthy with some serious talent coming through . Exciting times . Pakistan should mantain its status as the best limited overs bowling lineup for a long time. The picture you have quoted is from a match where atleast 40 % of the balls bowled were slower deliveries so dont try to mould facts for your convenience Edited October 27, 2017 by RAZPOR LORD_analyst, Rightarmfast and express bowling 1 2 Link to comment
RAZPOR Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 19 minutes ago, the don said: LOL . But shahid afridi was quicker than pretty much every Indian bowler at the time . Was he quicker than srinath,zaheer and nehra???? Koi naya joke seekh ab ,ek hi repeat karta rahega marne tak . express bowling, LORD_analyst and Vilander 3 Link to comment
RAZPOR Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Shaz1 said: Jins? There are plenty of those in India. Always come home before 1. So you know indian jinns tooo....cool .....Family??? Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, Shaz1 said: Yes you guys are my family. We are brothers of destruction. We may hate each other but we do love each other. Gotta save humanity from Jins. true that Shaz1 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Shaz1 said: Also guys Usman Khan Shinwari is fast. There is no doubt about it. He is not a complete bowler yet but boy does he swing it by a mile. I was never impressed with him before this series but he humbly proved me wrong. He has improved immensly. He will continue to as well. We got a incredible fast bowling bench. Pakistan fast bowling is back baby. Wake up and smell the coffee buddy. I watched atleast 2 overs on a trot of his. The guy was trundling at 130 and 133. Perhaps the overs I missed ( 2 overs ) , he could have bowled a few balls 140+ Btw, I am glad you say 141 is fast! Now try to be consistent with that. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, the don said: He is not fast yet . Has the potential to get quicker though . Sure his average pace may be quicker than the bowlers mentioned in this thread but they are no more than fast medium themselves. The good thing is that the pace bowling stocks are looking very very healthy with some serious talent coming through . Exciting times . Pakistan should mantain its status as the best limited overs bowling lineup for a long time. Lolz... Say that again? Hahahahaha, either you have a good sense of humour or you are delusional! Either way, this was funny.. lolz :) Vilander and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shaz1 said: And Indian's with there weak bowling can't go over this defence. All the top test bowlers of our two nations in the last 3 years ( relevant period for ICC rankings ) , are Indians. Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI BBM Ave Econ SR 5 10 RA Jadeja (INDIA) 2015-2017 20 39 996.0 267 2291 110 7/48 10/154 20.82 2.30 54.3 7 1 R Ashwin (INDIA) 2014-2017 31 59 1497.2 308 4311 185 7/59 13/140 23.30 2.87 48.5 17 5 A Mishra (INDIA) 2015-2016 9 18 267.4 44 853 33 4/43 7/72 25.84 3.18 48.6 0 0 Mohammed Shami (INDIA) 2014-2017 16 31 458.3 80 1493 54 5/112 6/116 27.64 3.25 50.9 1 0 Yasir Shah (PAK) 2014-2017 27 52 1504.4 236 4743 158 7/76 10/141 30.01 3.15 57.1 13 2 Rahat Ali (PAK) 2014-2016 13 24 414.5 83 1355 40 4/22 6/70 33.87 3.26 62.2 0 0 Wahab Riaz (PAK) 2015-2017 18 33 600.0 80 2039 60 5/88 7/134 33.98 3.39 60.0 1 0 Mohammad Amir (PAK) 2016-2017 16 29 591.5 138 1639 44 6/44 7/64 37.25 2.76 80.7 1 0 UT Yadav (INDIA) 2014-2017 25 50 685.3 135 2338 62 4/32 6/71 37.70 3.41 66.3 0 0 I Sharma (INDIA) 2014-2017 19 35 510.0 111 1509 40 5/54 8/86 37.72 2.95 76.5 1 0 Zulfiqar Babar (PAK) 2014-2016 12 23 605.5 124 1710 41 5/120 8/233 41.70 2.82 88.6 1 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=bowling_average;qualmin1=30;qualval1=wickets;spanmax1=27+Oct+2017;spanmin1=27+Oct+2014;spanval1=span;team=6;team=7;template=results;type=bowling Edited October 27, 2017 by express bowling LORD_analyst and speedheat 2 Link to comment
pindxb Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Edited October 27, 2017 by pindxb RAZPOR and Mosher 2 Link to comment
pindxb Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Shaz1 said: 2 overs compared to 14 by me is a little sample size. Watch more and learn more what true fast bowling is. I am consistent though. Indian bowlers make 141 bowling seem slow to me hence why the spinner comparison. Also tell your fast bowlers to show more personality. I would like a bollywood dance after every wicket. And maybe some Shahrukhan acting. Shows how **** Misbah's ira has been for the last three years. UAE pitches made our fast bowlers support bowlers. In the next three years we should be better. Empty vessels, make most noise! Just like your hassan ali's and co histrionics! Damn funny Edited October 27, 2017 by Rightarmfast express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share Posted October 27, 2017 Just now, Rightarmfast said: Empty vessels, make most noise! RAFbhai ..... good one ! Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, Shaz1 said: Keep it up. Make sure your defence is solid. Before your wickets go boom. TBH, I only comment about the pace of Wasim and Waqar which I think are hyped. Other than that, I think Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib were totally gold! Never said anything different. Against them, anyone''s wickets would go boom... But I dont share your enthusiasm about the present lot. So, don't mind me for speaking the truth.. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 hours ago, Shaz1 said: Also guys Usman Khan Shinwari is fast. There is no doubt about it. He is not a complete bowler yet but boy does he swing it by a mile. I was never impressed with him before this series but he humbly proved me wrong. He has improved immensly. He will continue to as well. We got a incredible fast bowling bench. Pakistan fast bowling is back baby. so by your own admission pak fast bowling which was not good is back being good with Usman who is now bowling 144 in t20. ok. Rightarmfast and RAZPOR 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Shaz1 said: Have you seen the list of players in our bench? We got wicket taking fast bowling unit. They will make your batsmen shake in fear. hey it was you who said pak bowling is back not me. it has to be somewhere bad for it to be back. moreover dont get me wrong, in many athletic divisions Indians usually dominate pak because of their physical differences, we are different people Indians being physically bigger and stronger makes it an uphill task for small pakistani folks...in cricket you guys manage to compete..because its a non contact sport. Rightarmfast 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Shaz1 said: Lmfao This post just made me laugh. Won't argue with that stuff you posted after the bold. As for the bolded part. Yeah I agree we were not doing too well in the fast bowling department as we are now. We had moments where our key bowlers were banned for corruption. So bowlers like Junaid Khan and Umar Gul had to take the metal of being the spearhead of the attack. Bowlers like Wahab Riaz got too many chances due to connections. So our fast bowlers to some extent were not good enough as the previous line ups. But now we got more than one fast bowler who is willing to take the game on to the opposition. Which is good to see cause by having more options you got more reason to rotate your bowlers in order to keep them fit. Without feeling a loss of the other. Like in this series we really did not miss Amir. We had good enough fast bowlers without him. you have good bowlers, yes. But they are not fast. meaning they are accurate and swing it have very good skills but they are not fast. They trundle ins tests at 120 all day, they hit 140 in loi but every team does. Rightarmfast and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Couple of jaffas from Umesh vs Chattisgarh https://streamable.com/pdatd https://streamable.com/324gj express bowling, LORD_analyst, speedheat and 2 others 5 Link to comment
LORD_analyst Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Mosher said: Couple of jaffas from Umesh vs Chattisgarh https://streamable.com/pdatd https://streamable.com/324gj sharp swing that!!! Link to comment
Vilander Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, Shaz1 said: Thats cause fast bowling is a dieing art in todays cricket. Its no longer about throwing it fast. Its about having proper line and length with variety of skills. Due to the pitches being the way they are also the bats having the extra wood. Now a days the more faster you bowl the more faster you get hit out of the ground. No rest of the world does not throw..throwing and bowling are two different actions in rest of the world... oh ok line and length cool...yeah i know pak are line and length bowlers now.. medium pacers. express bowling and Rightarmfast 2 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 24 minutes ago, Mosher said: Couple of jaffas from Umesh vs Chattisgarh https://streamable.com/pdatd https://streamable.com/324gj Good to see Umesh get wickets with inswing. I presume the first video was reverse swing and the second video was conventional. Link to comment
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