Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[express bowling]

22 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Is he from Jharkhand? Whats the kind of speed he is touching? I mean, is he 140+?

He is from Rajasthan.

 

In domestic matches the speed readings are usually lesser than in international matches, don't know why though.  In this match, he was bowling 132 k to 138 k with bounce.  Most probably will clock  135 k to  141 k  in internationals ( did so the last time he played ). 

[the don]

Pankaj singh played in England if i remember correctly .

People were calling for his head back then.

 

Edited September 14, 2016 by the don

[Vilander]

23 minutes ago, the don said:

Pankaj singh played in England if i remember correctly .

People were calling for his head back then.

 

 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/765773.html

 

He was what one might dare to say 'Unlucky'.

[beetle]

18 hours ago, the don said:

Pankaj singh played in England if i remember correctly .

People were calling for his head back then.

 

Yeah...he looked bad.....but saw him in the duleep T match...The guy bowls with so much passion.

[Mosher]

19 hours ago, the don said:

Pankaj singh played in England if i remember correctly .

People were calling for his head back then.

 

Even in England he started off well. But once that catch of Cook got dropped in the slips, it all went downhill for Pankaj. But the way he was extracting bounce bowling on a flat 5th day pitch here and troubling the batsman is really commendable. Even though he generally bowls 133-138K, he bowls a heavy ball which hurries onto the batsman. Add to that he is very accurate. If someone like Ishant can get so many chances, no harm giving Pankaj another go.

[express bowling]

Alan Wilkins and Ravi Shastri were discussing the slight change in action that  Umesh Yadav has made in the recent past.  Now, he is looking at the batsman / wickets at the time of delivery....previously, his head used to fall away and his accuracy suffered as a result.

 

His improved accuracy in test matches is noticeable as a result and , hopefully, he continues in the same vein.

 

 

[express bowling]

Despite taking wickets at a good SR...Umesh Yadav's biggest problem was his economy rate in test matches as he gave away a boundary ball almost every over.

 

While ER is not that important for most bowlers in test matches...it is for Umesh Yadav because of the problem he had. After changing his action slightly,  this is how he has fared, as far as ER is concerned, in his last 3 test series so far

 

                             Eco rate

6.0	1	12	0	2.00	2	2		v South Africa	Mohali	5 Nov 2015	Test # 2186
3.0	0	7	0	2.33	5	4		v South Africa	Mohali	5 Nov 2015	Test # 2186
12.0	3	32	2	2.66	2	2		v South Africa	Delhi	3 Dec 2015	Test # 2191
21.0	16	9	3	0.42	4	4		v South Africa	Delhi	3 Dec 2015	Test # 2191
18.0	8	41	4	2.27	2	2		v West Indies	North Sound	21 Jul 2016	Test # 2207
13.0	4	34	1	2.61	3	3		v West Indies	North Sound	21 Jul 2016	Test # 2207
6.0	1	30	0	5.00	4	1		v West Indies	Kingston	30 Jul 2016	Test # 2211
12.0	2	44	0	3.66	4	3		v West Indies	Kingston	30 Jul 2016	Test # 2211
15.0	5	33	1	2.20	2	2		v New Zealand	Kanpur	22 Sep 2016	Test # 2221

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/376116.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings

 

 

Can he keep this going  ??  

Edited September 24, 2016 by express bowling

[Mosher]

29 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Despite taking wickets at a good SR...Umesh Yadav's biggest problem was his economy rate in test matches as he gave away a boundary ball almost every over.

 

While ER is not that important for most bowlers in test matches...it is for Umesh Yadav because of the problem he had. After changing his action slightly,  this is how he has fared, as far as ER is concerned, in his last 9 innings.

 

                             Eco rate

6.0	1	12	0	2.00	2	2		v South Africa	Mohali	5 Nov 2015	Test # 2186
3.0	0	7	0	2.33	5	4		v South Africa	Mohali	5 Nov 2015	Test # 2186
12.0	3	32	2	2.66	2	2		v South Africa	Delhi	3 Dec 2015	Test # 2191
21.0	16	9	3	0.42	4	4		v South Africa	Delhi	3 Dec 2015	Test # 2191
18.0	8	41	4	2.27	2	2		v West Indies	North Sound	21 Jul 2016	Test # 2207
13.0	4	34	1	2.61	3	3		v West Indies	North Sound	21 Jul 2016	Test # 2207
6.0	1	30	0	5.00	4	1		v West Indies	Kingston	30 Jul 2016	Test # 2211
12.0	2	44	0	3.66	4	3		v West Indies	Kingston	30 Jul 2016	Test # 2211
15.0	5	33	1	2.20	2	2		v New Zealand	Kanpur	22 Sep 2016	Test # 2221

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/376116.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings

 

 

Can he keep this going  ??  

That's mighty impressive for someone who "sprays" the ball around.

[CG]

Very impressed with Pankaj Singh bowling today troubled both Mukund & Dhawan.

Mukund had to retire hurt after hit on the shoulder by Pankaj bowling.

Dhawan dropped by Karhik .

Despite taking wickets at a good SR...Umesh Yadav's biggest problem was his economy rate in test matches as he gave away a boundary ball almost every over.

 

While ER is not that important for most bowlers in test matches...it is for Umesh Yadav because of the problem he had. After changing his action slightly,  this is how he has fared, as far as ER is concerned, in his last 3 test series so far

 

                             Eco rate

6.0	1	12	0	2.00	2	2		v South Africa	Mohali	5 Nov 2015	Test # 2186
3.0	0	7	0	2.33	5	4		v South Africa	Mohali	5 Nov 2015	Test # 2186
12.0	3	32	2	2.66	2	2		v South Africa	Delhi	3 Dec 2015	Test # 2191
21.0	16	9	3	0.42	4	4		v South Africa	Delhi	3 Dec 2015	Test # 2191
18.0	8	41	4	2.27	2	2		v West Indies	North Sound	21 Jul 2016	Test # 2207
13.0	4	34	1	2.61	3	3		v West Indies	North Sound	21 Jul 2016	Test # 2207
6.0	1	30	0	5.00	4	1		v West Indies	Kingston	30 Jul 2016	Test # 2211
12.0	2	44	0	3.66	4	3		v West Indies	Kingston	30 Jul 2016	Test # 2211
15.0	5	33	1	2.20	2	2		v New Zealand	Kanpur	22 Sep 2016	Test # 2221

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/376116.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling;view=innings

 

 

Can he keep this going  ??  

There is clear planning and work been done by kumble .Yadav always used to go for magic delivery and gave a boundary releasing pressure but now he bowls to a plan.Like this test attacking the stump with inswinger and outswinger was a variation.If the condition is suitable his stock ball will be Outswinger.A good bowling plan makes all the difference.

[vishalvirsingh]

since the first ininings india NZ is done n dusted..i need to post my comments for all of u to read and u know that though I am now just a batsman but I was a fast bowler as a teen ager and hence my love for fast bowling is Immense.

 

Umesh and Shammi- results show only one wicket by Umesh and a fairly economical bowling of under 3 by both the pacers.

I would give Umesh a score of 7 on 10 and shammi  a 6 on 10.

shammi bowled between 134 to 144k.,,,

umesh bowled I guess upto 146k and consistently around 140K even with the older ball.

 

I was expecting them to do better with the old ball and get some reverse swing..but I can tell u that they bowled well on a flat track , a dust bowl for a pacer..and it really takes a strong man to bowl at 146k on an indian flat track.

 

there would be many critics here supporting bhuvi but understand this he wud have bowled under 130k on these tracks and with no swing and batsman wud have loved to encash his bowling,,though he is also now good and is not a trundler any more ...but on flat tracks he wud have preferred to trundle.

 

I still have hope that our pacers will show their mettle in the next test match..both have bowled fairly.

 

 

ishant umesh and shammi are our best pacers for test with Varun the close 4th.

[vishalvirsingh]

On ‎9‎/‎14‎/‎2016 at 3:07 PM, express bowling said:

Pankaj Singh's ability to bowl a heavy ball  --  which loses less pace than usual after pitching  --   seems to have increased in the last one year or so.   That is making a big difference to his bowling now.

 

Looking at  him bowl, he actually deserves another chance.  He is bowling some nasty deliveries on a flat track and is so accurate,

pankaj was always under 140k..has he increased his pace??

[MechEng]

On 15/09/2016 at 3:52 PM, Mosher said:

Even in England he started off well. But once that catch of Cook got dropped in the slips, it all went downhill for Pankaj. But the way he was extracting bounce bowling on a flat 5th day pitch here and troubling the batsman is really commendable. Even though he generally bowls 133-138K, he bowls a heavy ball which hurries onto the batsman. Add to that he is very accurate. If someone like Ishant can get so many chances, no harm giving Pankaj another go.

He even had Ian Bell out twice but couldn't get the decision to his favour due to no drs. Bell went on to make a big 100 in that game.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, vishalvirsingh said:

pankaj was always under 140k..has he increased his pace??

Domestic speed guns are not reliable...., visually, Pankaj looked quicker than he did in England and got more bounce too.

[express bowling]

2 hours ago, CG said:

 

There is clear planning and work been done by kumble .Yadav always used to go for magic delivery and gave a boundary releasing pressure but now he bowls to a plan.Like this test attacking the stump with inswinger and outswinger was a variation.If the condition is suitable his stock ball will be Outswinger.A good bowling plan makes all the difference.

 

I am loving the plans that our pacers and even spinners  are using after Kumble has become our coach. 

 

Would like one little addition ....using the  bouncer a little more frequently.....to push the batsmen on to the back foot.  Umesh would have done better even today if he had used a few more bouncers with his stock indipper and variation out-going delivery. The batsman is then unsure of coming forward with confidence and  the follow-up moving deliveries work better.

[express bowling]

1st test vs  NZ

 

Speed ranges of faster deliveries  ( excluding slower cutters ) 

 

Umesh  135 k to 146 k

 

Shami   135 k to 145 k.

 

Shami came up with an inspired spell of fast bowling in the 2nd innings when the ball started reversing.  He was getting late swing both ways and bowled in-dippers to both the right and left handers at high pace.   He punctuated this by  quite a few bouncers, which pushed the batsmen back  and made his pitched up balls more potent.  He targeted the off and middle stump and repeated rich dividends ...with 2 wickets and multiple appeals for LBW in only a few overs.

 

Umesh was average in this test.  While his accuracy has improved, his bowling plan was disappointing in the 2nd innings.  He was getting consistent reverse swing at pace but targeted the leg stump instead of off and middle like Shami.  Also, he bowled very few bouncers....which resulted in the batsmen coming forward easily and reducing the effect of swing.  He bowled better to the left handers though.

[express bowling]

Ashwin bowled superbly in the second innings.  He got consistent spin and bounce on a track helpful for spinners....bowled to an effective plan and used the conditions perfectly.  Bowled quite a few carrom balls too and mixed his off-spinners with some straighter deliveries.   Ended up with 6 wickets in the 2nd innings and 10 for the match.  He is our wicket-taking machine at home and  is winning matches for fun.

 

Jadeja was his usual self  at home. He did whatever needed to be done, especially in the first innings.  Even in the 2nd, he maintained pressure from the other end and  has clearly established himself as our 2nd spinner after Ashwin. , at home. His accuracy, consistently attacking the stumps with quick darters and bowling variations deliveries that spin away a bit....all are perfect tools to have in India.  He was the Mom for his contribution with both ball and bat.

Edited September 26, 2016 by express bowling

[Singh bling]

35 minutes ago, express bowling said:

1st test vs  NZ

 

Speed ranges of faster deliveries  ( excluding slower cutters ) 

 

Umesh  135 k to 146 k

 

Shami   135 k to 145 k.

 

Shami came up with an inspired spell of fast bowling in the 2nd innings when the ball started reversing.  He was getting late swing both ways and bowled in-dippers to both the right and left handers at high pace.   He punctuated this by  quite a few bouncers, which pushed the batsmen back  and made his pitched up balls more potent.  He targeted the off and middle stump and repeated rich dividends ...with 2 wickets and multiple appeals for LBW in only a few overs.

 

Umesh was average in this test.  While his accuracy has improved, his bowling plan was disappointing in the 2nd innings.  He was getting consistent reverse swing at pace but targeted the leg stump instead of off and middle like Shami.  Also, he bowled very few bouncers....which resulted in the batsmen coming forward easily and reducing the effect of swing.  He bowled better to the left handers though.

I think Shami's hatrick or wicket taking bowl was 147 kph

[express bowling]

7 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

I think Shami's hatrick or wicket taking bowl was 147 kph

The potential hattrick ball was at  145 k.

[vishalvirsingh]

On ‎9‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 6:33 PM, express bowling said:

The potential hattrick ball was at  145 k.

Shammi  is FANTASTIC....

 

Flat INDIAN Patta Wicket..Still he is taking wickets and nearly got a few LBW too...

he will take fifers in England and Australia now...

[express bowling]

I  missed the 2nd spell by Shami.

 

BCCI TV hawkeye shows fastest ball by Shami as 151.2 k.

 

Has anyone seen this delivery ?