express bowling Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 Basil Thampi will probably touch 147 k / 148 k in the IPL and international matches. MK55, Rightarmfast, Mosher and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 5 hours ago, express bowling said: Highly impressed with Basil Thampi bowling in SMA trophy He has bowled fast, accurate inswinging yorkers at will.....got a good slower ball too Speeds between 135 k to 144 k lots of balls above 140 k Round-arm action Looks on the taller side bur skids on to the bat quickly Has picked up 3 wickets from 4 overs for only 18 runs Wow, sounds awesome! I missed watching this guy. Normally fast bowlers reach their optimal pace by 26-27.. So this kid can definitely be faster. I hope he gets selected fast! tweaker and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 9, 2017 Author Share Posted February 9, 2017 An excerpt from an article on sports.keeda.com India vs Bangladesh, 2017: Indian pacers use Speed Shotgun ahead of the one-off Test The Indian pacers were introduced to a new technology called the Speed Shotgun. What’s the story? Ahead of the one-off Test against Bangladesh, the Indian pacers were introduced to a new technology called the Speed Shotgun by the skipper Virat Kohli and coach Anil Kumble. A member of the Indian team management confirmed the use of the technology. “Yes, it was used during training on Monday to assess the pace at which the Indian bowlers were bowling,” he said. In case you didn’t know... It is no secret that India’s new skipper Virat Kohli likes to have pacers who have raw pace and has often spoken how a genuine pacer can get a wicket even on a flat deck. Ever since taking over as captain, Kohli has backed bowlers who can hit the 140km/hr mark on a constant basis rather than having a medium pacer who bowls a consistent line. This is evident from the way he uses Umesh Yadav ahead of Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who has done well in the past. The heart of the matter The Speed Shotgun machine is a machine which helps to keep track of the pace at which a bowler delivers the ball. It is aimed at the pitch from behind the stumps as a bowler runs into bowl. The members of the support staff were seen standing behind the nets with the machine aimed at the pitch. The machine tracks the speed of the ball once it pitches on the wicket. " Full article https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/india-vs-bangladesh-2017-indian-pacers-use-speed-shotgun speedheat, Vilander, Singh bling and 5 others 8 Link to comment
tweaker Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Indian coaching staff employed another innovative target practice. Adjacent to the match strip, two plastic stumps were put – off and leg stump. On top of off-stump, a square box was fixed in which a circular shooter’s target was painted. The ‘Bull’s Eye’ was located at a position that is exactly six inches above off-stump. Ishant Sharma, Umesh Yadav were being monitored by coach Anil Kumble as they tried to get their line right. express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 On 1/20/2017 at 10:34 PM, Mosher said: Aaron and Umesh are similar not just in pace but also sometimes not so accurate. Both have made improvements in accuracy but that is not enough for them to play limited overs cricket. They need to develop variations and accurate yorkers. So better for them play Test cricket now. Aaron can be a asset in Test cricket as he has a very good bouncer and can be used alternatively with Umesh. When he used to bowl i found Aaron as markedly more accurate than Umesh, had better bouncers but never remember any yorkers from either of them. Aaron was obviously a wee bit quicker as well. express bowling and tweaker 2 Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 9 hours ago, express bowling said: An excerpt from an article on sports.keeda.com India vs Bangladesh, 2017: Indian pacers use Speed Shotgun ahead of the one-off Test The Indian pacers were introduced to a new technology called the Speed Shotgun. What’s the story? Ahead of the one-off Test against Bangladesh, the Indian pacers were introduced to a new technology called the Speed Shotgun by the skipper Virat Kohli and coach Anil Kumble. A member of the Indian team management confirmed the use of the technology. “Yes, it was used during training on Monday to assess the pace at which the Indian bowlers were bowling,” he said. In case you didn’t know... It is no secret that India’s new skipper Virat Kohli likes to have pacers who have raw pace and has often spoken how a genuine pacer can get a wicket even on a flat deck. Ever since taking over as captain, Kohli has backed bowlers who can hit the 140km/hr mark on a constant basis rather than having a medium pacer who bowls a consistent line. This is evident from the way he uses Umesh Yadav ahead of Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who has done well in the past. The heart of the matter The Speed Shotgun machine is a machine which helps to keep track of the pace at which a bowler delivers the ball. It is aimed at the pitch from behind the stumps as a bowler runs into bowl. The members of the support staff were seen standing behind the nets with the machine aimed at the pitch. The machine tracks the speed of the ball once it pitches on the wicket. " Full article https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/india-vs-bangladesh-2017-indian-pacers-use-speed-shotgun love this Kohli MC BC attitude..no matter what happens to BCCi revenue make sure it is as uncomfortable as possible to the touring players in the middle of the ground. express bowling, Mosher and tweaker 3 Link to comment
speedheat Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 An excerpt from an article on sports.keeda.com India vs Bangladesh, 2017: Indian pacers use Speed Shotgun ahead of the one-off Test The Indian pacers were introduced to a new technology called the Speed Shotgun. What’s the story? Ahead of the one-off Test against Bangladesh, the Indian pacers were introduced to a new technology called the Speed Shotgun by the skipper Virat Kohli and coach Anil Kumble. A member of the Indian team management confirmed the use of the technology. “Yes, it was used during training on Monday to assess the pace at which the Indian bowlers were bowling,” he said. In case you didn’t know... It is no secret that India’s new skipper Virat Kohli likes to have pacers who have raw pace and has often spoken how a genuine pacer can get a wicket even on a flat deck. Ever since taking over as captain, Kohli has backed bowlers who can hit the 140km/hr mark on a constant basis rather than having a medium pacer who bowls a consistent line. This is evident from the way he uses Umesh Yadav ahead of Bhuvneshwar Kumar, who has done well in the past. The heart of the matter The Speed Shotgun machine is a machine which helps to keep track of the pace at which a bowler delivers the ball. It is aimed at the pitch from behind the stumps as a bowler runs into bowl. The members of the support staff were seen standing behind the nets with the machine aimed at the pitch. The machine tracks the speed of the ball once it pitches on the wicket. " Full article https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/india-vs-bangladesh-2017-indian-pacers-use-speed-shotgun Wow!!! Hope we will be finally getting a freedom from TRUNDLER love mentality from 80s 90s and Dhonis ; gangully was the first freedom fighter hope kohli liberate us !! Fingers crossed!! Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) From what I've seen combined with some assumptions Thampi probably is as fast as Umesh which is consistently around 142-143ks and fastest at 147-148ks.Though Thampi is younger and Umesh is physically stronger than him so Umesh will be more consistent with his pace.Thampi is 23 so he can get quicker and gain some pace.He's round armish so will be handy with the old ball.These 2 are bit quicker than Shami who's the best fast bowler for India as of now.Nathu is similar paced.Both are 137-138ks and can hit 145ks when on song.Then there are Ankit Rajpoot and Aniket Chowdhury who are tall and got good bounce.Both are 135-140ks consistently while Ankit clocked in mid to high 140s in IPL last year,fastest being 147.6 kph. In the LOIs we have Bumrah and Hardik.Both are 137-142 with fastest being 144-145ks.Ishant is 130-135ks nowadays though can bowl quicker when he wants (137-143ks).Even BK hits 140ks nowadays in LOIs.Shardul will probably around 137-140ks at his best.India's fastest bowler remains injured most of the times though fit right now is Aaron who is capable of hitting 150 kph.Hope to get him back in.This looks to be the fast bowling pool right now in the country.Warrier,Sangwan,Shukla,Avesh are some other decent seamers in the domestic circuit. Edited February 10, 2017 by ShebbySB express bowling, Mosher, Vilander and 1 other 4 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ShebbySB said: Shami who's the best fast bowler for India as of now.Nathu is similar paced.Both are 137-138ks and can hit 145ks when on song. We are seeing Shami bowl a lot of 140 k to 147 k deliveries in the last 8 months Quote .Ishant is 130-135ks nowadays though can bowl quicker when he wants (137-143ks). Ishant has bowled lots of 135 k to 147 k spells, with many deliveries 140 k +, in the last 2 years. Edited February 10, 2017 by express bowling Mosher and Ironhide 2 Link to comment
ShebbySB Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, express bowling said: We are seeing Shami bowl a lot of 140 k to 147 k deliveries in the last 8 months Ishant has bowled lots of 135 k to 147 k spells, with many deliveries 140 k +, in the last 2 years. Shami is around that pace in LOIs where you bowl faster,I mentioned he can bowl in mid 140s,Ishant hardly bowls above 140-141ks in tests and around mid 130s.He doesn't play in ODIs and T20s for India,he still can bowl in 140-144k bracket but in tests?Haven't seen that for a long time.Maybe he's too faster in the LOIs,used to hit 148-150ks once... Edited February 10, 2017 by ShebbySB Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ShebbySB said: Shami is around that pace in LOIs where you bowl faster,I mentioned he can bowl in mid 140s,Ishant hardly bowls above 140-141ks in tests and around mid 130s.He doesn't play in ODIs and T20s for India,he still can bowl in 140-144k bracket but in tests?Haven't seen that for a long time.Maybe he's too faster in the LOIs,used to hit 148-150ks once... I am talking about speeds in test matches only. Shami has not played many LOIs after return from injury. Shami kept on bowling 140 k to 147 k in the series against England and NZ and touched 151 k in a test match in the WI....also bowled a delivery at 149 k. Ishant was bowling spells between 142 k and 147 k in tests in WI and and quite quick in some earlier test series too.... I think you noticed his speeds after returning from Chikunguniya when he was having sore joints..... he was saying that he is not fully recoved from joint pains even now...so we may see lower speeds even in this test. You can check out speeds of recent test matches on BCCI.tv and also in this thread. Edited February 10, 2017 by express bowling Ironhide and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) If only we had another skiddy fast bowler, who can reverse the ball , in this test team to partner Umesh in the absence of Shami.....like say Basil Thampi Edited February 10, 2017 by express bowling tweaker, Mosher and Rightarmfast 3 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: If only we had another skiddy fast bowler in this test team to partner Umesh in the absence of Shami.....like say Basil Thampi Thumping averages 43 in FC, someone like Aniket would have been ideal in place of Ishant. tweaker 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Forever Indian said: Thumping averages 43 in FC, someone like Aniket would have been ideal in place of Ishant. Aniket is very promising and would be ideal for faster tracks with his height and natural bounce. We are seeing in test matches played on slow and low tracks like in India that pacers who are really quick in the air and can reverse the ball tend to neutralize the slow and low pitches much better. We need to to develop one more such bowler apart from Shami and Umesh. Bowlers like Ishant, Ball, Anderson etc. , tall guys who get natural bounce rather than skid off the pitch, have not been that effective on the slow and low pitches. Edited February 10, 2017 by express bowling tweaker and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Enjoyed the short spell of 2 overs by Umesh before close of play. He did not get the ball till the 12th over, the pitch looked flat for pacers.....but Umesh bowled with intensity and pace, got some seam and reverse swing, got a couple of balls to jump up awkwardly and was accurate. Speeds between 135 k and 145 k. Picked up a wicket off a jaffa via DRS route. Figures of 2-1-2-1 Hope he continues in the same vein tomorrow. Edited February 10, 2017 by express bowling Mosher, tweaker and Laaloo 3 Link to comment
tweaker Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 10 minutes ago, express bowling said: Enjoyed the short spell of 2 overs by Umesh before close of play. He did not get the ball till the 12th over, the pitch looked flat for pacers.....but Umesh bowled with intensity and pace, got some seam and swing, got a couple of balls to jump up awkwardly and was accurate. Speeds between 135 k and 145 k. Picked up a wicket off a jaffa via DRS route. Figures of 2-1-2-1 Hope he continues in the same vein tomorrow. Really like to see Umesh bowl like this express bowling 1 Link to comment
kruiser Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 this test match will decide the Bhuvi vs yadav debate.. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, kruiser said: this test match will decide the Bhuvi vs yadav debate.. How can one match decide the debate? Anyone can be better than the other in one match, so have to see them through a series of matches to form any informed opinion. For eg. Bhuvi comfortably outbowled Shami in both the WI test and Kolkata test where he took 5ers. Does that mean Bhuvi is better than Shami - NO! Similarly we need to see over a few matches as to who does well. Edited February 10, 2017 by Forever Indian Sidhoni 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 42 minutes ago, express bowling said: Aniket is very promising and would be ideal for faster tracks with his height and natural bounce. We are seeing in test matches played on slow and low tracks like in India that pacers who are really quick in the air and can reverse the ball tend to neutralize the slow and low pitches much better. We need to to develop one more such bowler apart from Shami and Umesh. Bowlers like Ishant, Ball, Anderson etc. , tall guys who get natural bounce rather than skid off the pitch, have not been that effective on the slow and low pitches. But then again a Tall Leftie will add variety and create different angles for the batsmen. It is always good to have another bowler who is of a different variety to you so that the batsmen are at their toes all the time and prone to make mistakes. tweaker 1 Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 24 minutes ago, express bowling said: Enjoyed the short spell of 2 overs by Umesh before close of play. He did not get the ball till the 12th over, the pitch looked flat for pacers.....but Umesh bowled with intensity and pace, got some seam and reverse swing, got a couple of balls to jump up awkwardly and was accurate. Speeds between 135 k and 145 k. Picked up a wicket off a jaffa via DRS route. Figures of 2-1-2-1 Hope he continues in the same vein tomorrow. Umesh should bowl in short spells. Try to go for wickets. He should mix up his lengths like he did today. Bowl bouncers and then attack the stumps. express bowling and tweaker 2 Link to comment
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