rtmohanlal Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 It has been several years since Imran Khan made his self confession that he had tampered with the ball in a county match using bottle cap in the 80s. W.r.t this matter several articles have been published too. If we go thru the internet we can see several topics related to this even in several cricket web forums.that means, ever since he made that admission , it can be easily assumed that a lot of cricket lovers now know about this matter. i am sure this is the case with a lot of members in this forum too. As far as i am concerned he used to be the best all rounder from the 80s in my teens just because of his averages . but the more i got to view cricket , the more i realized that there was much more than mere averages. Kapil became my premeir all rounder from 80s .Now, because of his self confession to tampering, what ever remained in my mind in support of Imran has taken a beating. i place him only some levels below as a pure bowler than what i percieved of the same before.quite naturally he is only 2nd or probably '3rd behind Botham' for me because i can't take the credentials of a tamperor as such. My question is 'how do you view him as a cricketer/all rounder after all these events' ? is he the same number one all rounder from the 80s ? or has he gone down by some yards.? Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 How many threads do you need to create for Imran fricking Khan Link to comment
CSK Fan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 How many threads do you need to create for Imran fricking Khan Where are the other threads? Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Tahir has to prove a lot more. Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Where are the other threads? http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=312017 http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showthread.php?t=298588 Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 How many threads do you need to create for Imran fricking Khan it is not about 'how many' , it is about the thread having some 'valid point or not' Link to comment
undisputed chap Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Not really. Imran than > all Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Well i lost all respect i had for Wasim Akram and Waqar as well as lot of Pak players who were mentioned and fined on basis of Qayyum report. Imran at least was not like them although ball tampering is cheating. Don't hold him in high regards as he cheated by tampering but certainly did not stoop as low as other Pakistani players. Link to comment
Austin 3:!6 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Not really. Imran than > all Which part of Pakistan you from bro? Link to comment
Kalia_Test Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 IMO Imran, Wasim and Waqar were much much better than the pace bowlers we ever produced in Tests...In ODIs, our bowlers are closer than an average Pakistani would admit...e.g Kapil was a much better ODI bowler than Imran...as complete package, he was even better... The ball tampering issue of all three definitely tarnishes their image ( and fixing also in case of Wasim ) but they would still be better than our bowlers. No problem in admitting that. So, to the question in OP - the answer is Yes. Imran's image has taken a beating after the confession but kudos to him for atleast coming out openly... Link to comment
Kalia_Test Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Just to add - the 3 bowlers were better than Indian pace bowlers...If we consider all countries, there are bowlers better than these 3...Marshall, Ambrose, McGrath, Steyn are comfortably better than them Link to comment
beetle Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Lost all respect the day I read he refused to accept his daughter out of wedlock .A man who won't accept his child is nothing but a rotten piece of SH*T.The fact that he turned out to be a cheater only reinforces his absolute lack of character.Bloody efffing hypocrite!!!!!!Chala desh sudharne!!! Link to comment
India-KXIP fan Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Not really. Imran than > all :this: As a cricketer. Great skill. Link to comment
Number Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 2nd best bowler of his era after Marshall. Better than Wasim and Waqar as a bowler. As an AR, a little debatable but still in top 3 all rounders of all time. Link to comment
gazza Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 imran is open about it we don't know how many do it or have done it that aren't open about it though. hadlee, donald and waqar have all said that ball tampering should be legal so it makes you think how many people do/have tampered including the greats. Link to comment
Texy Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Lost all respect the day I read he refused to accept his daughter out of wedlock .A man who won't accept his child is nothing but a rotten piece of SH*T.The fact that he turned out to be a cheater only reinforces his absolute lack of character.Bloody efffing hypocrite!!!!!!Chala desh sudharne!!! Didn't the founder of their nation did something similar? Hypocrisy runs deep in that nation. Link to comment
the don Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yeah man lost all respect for dravid and sachin when they were caught for ball tampering too , cheats .:(( Link to comment
rtmohanlal Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share Posted July 31, 2014 imran is open about it we don't know how many do it or have done it that aren't open about it though. hadlee' date=' donald and waqar have all said that ball tampering should be legal so it makes you think how many people do/have tampered including the greats.[/quote'] a lot of them admitted to doing doesn't mean it is illegal. on the contrary , suppose there was some one in all probablity who didn't tamper with the ball in those days. it seems Kapil to me was one. he has thoroughly confirmed, he didn't tamper with ball. also Kapil was only medium pacer as we all know. so in all probablity Kapil was not some one who was involved in tampering.that being the case my opinion is that a person who didn't involve in tampering needs to be given extra points for their over all performance as player. you may doubt as to this as an attempt to place Kapil higher and Imran lower. but then it is quite natural.we all desire players from our nations to be rated better. but if some opposition player thoroughly deserve to be better than our own player we have to accept it. for eg: Kumble & Warne. with over 600 wkts to his name we all know Kumble was an all time successful spin bowler.but we know this too that Warne with such magical action and better records was a better bowler than Kumble. so we just accept this fact because Warne was perfect .But here having known that Imran was a tamperor , i can't take his credentials as such. Link to comment
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