It's time Ishant gets the respect he deserves(Intl. edition)

[Lord]

everybody read Strike's signature :giggle:

[kosingh]

Ishant has a bowling average of 72 in Australia. That's pretty amazing even for a bad specialist bowler.

[shortbread]

TBH the Indian Fast bowling support system can get the worst out of any promising pacer!! Find any promising pacer in India and once the system gets his hands on him the most likely outcomes are: Reduces his natural pace and there is no effort to be quicker, the art is to trundle along harmless. That is cause no harm to ones own body and the opposition's batting line up Be injured forever, injured after coming back from injury, get injured before the match, during the match, after the match Bowl brainless with complete loss of any plan or strategy As much as Ishanth can be blamed for his underachievement, his issues were always hitting the wrong length and poor release. Something or someone fettled with what he was doing naturally and successfully early on in his career. That first spell from him bought sanity to today's proceedings, when Aaron was being carted at more than 10 an over and Shami was ineffective bowling full. Also, Shami needs to stick to his natural length which made him very effective in his last spell.

[StriKe]

everybody read Strike's signature :giggle:

maniac was drunk when he created this thread :hmmm: Check post #603 to #654

[BlueBee]

everybody read Strike's signature :giggle:

He's written Intl. edition in the title. :poink:

[Lord]

He's written Intl. edition in the title. :poink:

That statement was made after JoBurg Test:giggle:

[Stuge]

Drunk 5 beers and you're like HAIL ishant :hysterical:

[rkt.india]

Bad form? How can you dismiss someone having an average of 37 after 50 test matches to be just going through bad form? He was a poor bowler up till the NZ tour and should have been dropped. Just because he's a slightly improved bowler now doesn't mean that keeping a nonperforming bowler in the team is vindicated.

Actually till England tour 2011, Ishant had an average of about 31. Broad was same too. While Broad maintained and only got better, he regressed since that tour. But since NZ tour, he has bowled decently. Though he is still far from anything great.

[zep1706]

I wouldn't be too quick shower him with praise so soon. Without doubt he was brilliant today. But can he continue to be consistent? We shall see.

[maniac]

The thing is he has had a consistent run and prior to the faulkner assault on those god awful pitches,he was having a great ODI run as well......I hope Ishant is more proactive like Zak or Srinath in his later stages to guide his fellow bowlers....this was the biggest complain about Kapil and the early incarnation of Srinath as a spearhead when they never took the initiative.

[aceofbase]

Gillespie mentioned even before the match started that ishant is highly rated by the Australians and that he would be india's best bowler..

[coffee_rules]

Ishant Sharma 1 MClarke 0 and out of the series

[AmreekanDesi]

You got drunk after 5 beers WTF?? Anyways on topic. Ive said it before and will repeat. Ishant has turned a corner in the last 12 months and has had a stellar record. He should have been dropped in the 2 years preceding that but there is no justification in the calls to drop him now

[bharat297]

The worst thing for Ishant is ... Even though he was the best of our specialist bowlers, he currently has the worst average in the match. This is where averages can be misleading.

[rkt.india]

The worst thing for Ishant is ... Even though he was the best of our specialist bowlers' date=' he currently has the worst average in the match. This is where averages can be misleading.[/quote'] Ishant was economical, but still never looked like taking a wicket. Aaron bowled more deliveries that troubled the batsmen but so many poor ones over-shadowed them. Wont look much into today's game because they were just throwing their bat at everything with field up.

[bharat297]

Ishant was economical' date=' but still never looked like taking a wicket.[/quote'] Well he did in his opening spell. Generally speaking he looked closer to getting a wicket than any other Indian bowler. Most of the other wickets were just out of the blue bad shots from the batsmen, with the exception of Shami picking up Haddin late on Day 1

[rkt.india]

Well he did in his opening spell. Generally speaking he looked closer to getting a wicket than any other Indian bowler. Most of the other wickets were just out of the blue bad shots from the batsmen' date=' with the exception of Shami picking up Haddin late on Day 1[/quote'] Even that wicket came through a poor shot, nothing special in the delivery. Even after that, there was nothing penetrative. Aaron bowled more deliveries that troubled the batsmen but so many poor ones over-shadowed them. Wont look much into today's game because they were just throwing their bat at everything with field up.

[bharat297]

Even that wicket came through a poor shot' date=' nothing special in the delivery. Even after that, there was nothing penetrative. Aaron bowled more deliveries that troubled the batsmen but so many poor ones over-shadowed them. Wont look much into today's game because they were just throwing their bat at everything with field up.[/quote'] Are you honestly telling me that Varun Aaron bowled better than Ishant in this Test match? :yikes: Does anyone else here agree with that?

[rkt.india]

Are you honestly telling me that Varun Aaron bowled better than Ishant in this Test match? :yikes: Does anyone else here agree with that?

No, I said more deliveries that troubled batsmen that is why he has more wickets too. Could have had Clarke early too if we had a slip when his edge went through 3rd slip. All our bowlers were poor including Ishant. Economy of over 3 looks good only when you look at others. I did not see anything great in his bowling too.

[bharat297]

No' date=' I said more deliveries that troubled batsmen that is why he has more wickets too. Could have had Clarke early too if we had a slip when his edge went through 3rd slip. All our bowlers were poor including Ishant. Economy of over 3 looks good only when you look at others. I did not see anything great in his bowling too.[/quote'] The only time Aaron looked like troubling the batsmen is when he bowled bouncers. The wickets of Watson was pure laziness on Watson's part. The Mitchell Marsh one was a good ball though. Just compare Ishant's opening spell with Varun Aaron's opening spell. I think you severely underestimate the value of holding down one end. One of the main reasons that Johnson was so effective last year was Ryan Harris was so consistent at the other end. I am in no way comparing Ishant to Ryan Harris but there is most definitely value in having someone do what Ishant did yesterday. In fact, if Shami bowled with Ishant's accuracy in his opening spell (and bowled over the wicket), he might have picked up a couple of early wickets because he was definitely swinging the ball.