zen Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I see Mughal as an extension of the Mongol Empire .... The word Mughal is probably a mispronunciation of the word Mongol .... The Mughal-Mongol connection could be from both paternal and maternal side. If I am not wrong, the original Mughals were more like Turk-Mongol combination Therefore, basically every region from parts of China to parts of Eastern Europe and from parts of Russia to parts of India was directly or indirectly ruled by the Mongols Then the British came who overthrew the Mughals (now natives) .... And because of that everyone (all natives) came together and drove the British away, so which race or religion or culture won? And let's not forget that even before the Mughals, there was the Mauriya Empire in the subcon: :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Well bro ,Cutting Edge or not, we are hoping to induct about 400-500 JF-17s. JF-17 Block 2, is less or least of all like 4th Gen Fighter, Its not easy to Replace F-16s, but JF-17 Block 3, will be the different beast, with New more powerful Engine, AESA, Dual Seat , with speed up to 2.0 Mach+ & with more weapons etc. It will be Like 4.5 Gen Fighter. corrected. 4th gen is more like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 US arms Pakistan with 14 combat aircrafts' date= 59 trainer jets, 374 armoured carriers http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/us-arms-pakistan-with-14-combat-aircrafts-59-trainer-jets-374-armoured-carriers/articleshow/47173133.cms the 14 combat jets given are more like HAL chetak type light helies..not f16..:--D but dont let small things like accuracy and truth stop you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Pak Nuke doctrine : Nuke there to be used, tactical nukes aimed at India in the hands of soldiers. Indian cold start blah blah confused non intellectual gibberish based thinking. CNZCw0BXKyE&feature=youtu.be Indian doctrine: No first use, second strike capability,massive second strike. Nuke not extension of Military weapons, but control in civilian hand. Utter humility in spite of dismissive intellectual superiority, elucidating minimal nature of the preferred targets in pak. OZpIrZvP0Co&feature=youtu.be There is but one rule buggers. What a man can do and what a man cant. Picked these gems from a defense forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 First of all I am not here for D!ck measuring Contest .... Keep that in ur Mind bro. corrected. 4th gen is more like this. JF-17 Block 2, is 4th Gen Fighter, you can search this on any Defence forum. true its not the replacement of F-16s. Its a Decent Fighter, but Block 3 will be Different. and about HAL Tejas, I dont need to tell you about it. Indian Govt knows it.... the 14 combat jets given are more like HAL chetak type light helies..not f16..:--D but dont let small things like accuracy and truth stop you. I have posted the Source, The Source said its Block 52, and you know its like Helies or not. So,I dont need to lie. Pak Nuke doctrine : Nuke there to be used, tactical nukes aimed at India in the hands of soldiers. Indian cold start blah blah confused non intellectual gibberish based thinking. Indian doctrine: No first use, second strike capability,massive second strike. Nuke not extension of Military weapons, but control in civilian hand. Utter humility in spite of dismissive intellectual superiority, elucidating minimal nature of the preferred targets in pak. There is but one rule buggers. What a man can do and what a man cant. Picked these gems from a defense forum. Its Defence Thread, Not India Vs Pak Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 First of all I am not here for D!ck measuring Contest .... Keep that in ur Mind bro. JF-17 Block 2, is 4th Gen Fighter, you can search this on any Defence forum. true its not the replacement of F-16s. Its a Decent Fighter, but Block 3 will be Different. and about HAL Tejas, I dont need to tell you about it. Indian Govt knows it.... wrong: cag said tejas did not meet asr not it being worse than fc-10 fighter. DFBW,composite body,weponization prior to foc tejas and fc-10 are miles apart. Chinese improved f-7, the one fighter they knew most, got a poor engine from russia and make fc-10 did not want to use it so made it a cheap export version and developed j-10. India created some thing better than j-10 made it mk1. fc-10 is pak level fighter you can use it against taliban who don't fight back. I have posted the Source, The Source said its Block 52, and you know its like Helies or not. So,I dont need to lie. wrong: its two diff news times has very low standards, pak is not getting used junk f16 they are paying money to get the ones that were not transfered earlier. Its Defence Thread, Not India Vs Pak Thread. i am posting about pak defence and indian defence why are you feeling insecure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 1. Block 2 is 4th Gen Fighter, and Block 3 will be Different. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_jet_fighter#Fourth-generation_jet_fighters_compared http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/4th-generation-fighter-aircraft.asp http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=758 2. So, Do you mean we are not getting any Arms from US , including 14 F-16s & trainer jets, armoured carriers ? are you sure about that ? The article in economictimes is confusing , they mixedup two Diff Deals, but here's the link about Selling 14 jets etc. https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/row/pakarms.pdf we have MLU kits so we will Upgrade these Jets. 3. Who's feeling Insecure ? :facepalm: Why do i need to feel Insecure ? I think i have Posted the IAF news about 36 Rafale Deal. Check out the thread .... If you want to Compare Nuclear Doctrine of both countries thn this will lead us to nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Mods can you please move Keyboardwarriors posts about Pakistan to a different thread ? This thread is about Indian defense and its procurements, not about Pakistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 ICFers told me to post here about Defence related news, If Mods dont want me to post here thn I have no problem to create another thread about Pakistan Defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 8 Global Response Cutter GRC43m to be sold to Pakistan United States will sell 8 Global Response Cutters to Pakistan. These boats are well equipped and armed to patrol the sea lanes to intercept and negotiate threats facing from the narcotics and human trafficking as well as to counter piracy at sea. New Link: http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/pakistan-grc43m-cutters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalia_Test Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Mods - Kindly keep sanctity of this thread - no name facebook videos which are no news but videos of bloggers for views and adsense revenues are spamming the thread - refer post 170 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It was the promotional video of GRC-43. but i have changed the Link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Pak receives 3 Chinese Z-10 ‘Thunderbolt’ attack helicopters http://www.saach.tv/2015/04/03/pak-receives-3-chinese-thunderbolt-helicopters-to-replace-american-cobras/ Here are the three "received ones" US media: China International Pakistan 3 WZ-10 sold separately 17 http://www.inews163.com/2015/05/28/us-media-china-international-pakistan-3-wz-10-sold-separately-17-127263.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Is any chinese stuff battle tested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs Posted June 9, 2015 Share Posted June 9, 2015 Quite impressively reverse engineered!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SELVAM Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 The reason behind chinese free delivery of z10 helicopters to pakistan is they want to test their machine in battlefield , now pakistan will test this machine on their fellow countrymen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Pak receives 3 Chinese Z-10 ‘Thunderbolt’ attack helicopters http://www.saach.tv/2015/04/03/pak-receives-3-chinese-thunderbolt-helicopters-to-replace-american-cobras/ Here are the three "received ones" US media: China International Pakistan 3 WZ-10 sold separately 17 http://www.inews163.com/2015/05/28/us-media-china-international-pakistan-3-wz-10-sold-separately-17-127263.html bulky can not work in high altitude, for low altitude cas India will use Apache. for High altitude LCH. they will pulverize anything that china can put on the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Is any chinese stuff battle tested? we only procure 40% arms from China, and most of thes are reverse engineering (US/Russian etc) stuff. The reason behind chinese free delivery of z10 helicopters to pakistan is they want to test their machine in battlefield ' date=' now pakistan will test this machine on [b']TTP Corrected. bulky can not work in high altitude, for low altitude cas India will use Apache. for High altitude LCH. they will pulverize anything that china can put on the border. :hmmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 INS Vikrant undocked today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Cochin Shipyard undocks INS Vikrant India, on Wednesday, crossed a major milestone in defence shipbuilding when the maiden indigenous aircraft carrier INS Vikrant was undocked on completion of structural work at the Cochin Shipyard. The carrier is slated for induction in end-2018. http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/ins-vikrant-undocked/article7301993.ece Congrats to ICFers ..... :nice: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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