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Bahubali : India's Biggest Motion Picture


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1. If many in South don't understand Hindi, it is not Ind's (and Bollywood's) problem. Why do hindi films even need to be dubbed? :dontknow: 2. If adjusted for inflation, the numbers could be different :winky: (for eg. Films such as Gone with the wind are amongst the highest grosses once adjusted for inflation)
There is a very sizable market in B and C centers (small town) with single screens that is not tapped by Hindi cinema in the south. With dubbed movies they can now. It might not matter in big cities, where there is not much of local population, a lot of north Indian population and elite southies who know hindi see Hindi movies anyway. But, south market is secondary for Hindi cinema - Mumbai, Delhi, Central belt matters. Some of earlier Aamir khans movies like AAA were huge money earners from the south, it was a flop elsewhere. Because of south, they were considered average earners. Salman Khan is not a big hero in the south as compared to muslim dominated north India. It is the north market from Eid release which made it the better earner. But BB seems to have done it uniquely from just the south market and dubbed version in Hindi made 100 crores. That is without any fan following like Salman has.
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So a film dubbed in Hindi will gross more vs. a film dubbed in another lang :winky:
no doubt. hindi belt is from punjab to mumbai to hyderabad to kolkata its huge... telugu people got crazy about rajini's robot which earned 35 crores. it was the previous record holder for a dubbing movie.
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PS some approx numbers for Bollywood after inflation (the number would keep on increasing) http://ibosnetwork.com/asp/actualalltime_worldwide.asp Rank Film Name Year Adjusted Domestic Gross Adjusted Overseas Gross Adjusted Worldwide Gross 1. Sholay Aug 15 1975 Rs. 1,627.32 cr 1,627.32 cr 2. Mughal E Azam Aug 5 1960 Rs. 1,327.10 cr 1,327.10 cr 3. Kismet Jan 1 1943 Rs. 1,087.78 cr 1,087.78 cr 4. Ratan Jan 1 1944 Rs. 990.48 cr 990.48 cr 5. Hum Aapke Hai Kaun Aug 5 1994 Rs. 960.21 cr 960.21 cr 6. Muqaddar Ka Sikandar Oct 27 1978 Rs. 941.89 cr 941.89 cr 7. Basant (1942) Jan 1 1942 Rs. 895.98 cr 895.98 cr 8. Zindagi Jan 1 1940 Rs. 864.52 cr 864.52 cr 9. Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge Oct 20 1995 Rs. 816.04 cr 816.04 cr 10. Amar Akbar Anthony Jan 1 1977 Rs. 809.54 cr 809.54 cr

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Overall Sholay, Mugal-e-Azam, .... will be amongst the top all time grossers once adjusted
Return on Investment on Mughal will be low. because of budget, sets and salaries Sholay will be huge. at that time amjad khan and amitabh took normal salaries. only dharmendra is a superstar then if you take just the number of tickets sold for Sholay - it will be highest until hum aapke hain kaun. HAHK broke the industry record of Sholay after a few decades. so you can imagine Sholay's numbers once adjusted for inflation.
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So a film dubbed in Hindi will gross more vs. a film dubbed in another lang :winky:
And a natural corollary - a straight film made in hindi will gross more than a straight film made in other language :winky: Telugu speakers - 74 crores Hindi speakers - 520 odd crores Bahubali BO collection so far in Telugu only - 250 crores So this is equivalent of a hindi movie that grossed 250*520/74 = 1757 crores Highest is PK so far with 550 crores ( we need to remove China and other languages ). Puts into perspective the enormous show by Bahubali :woot:
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And a natural corollary - a straight film made in hindi will gross more than a straight film made in other language :winky: Telugu speakers - 74 crores Hindi speakers - 520 odd crores Bahubali BO collection so far in Telugu only - 250 crores So this is equivalent of a hindi movie that grossed 250*520/74 = 1757 crores Highest is PK so far with 550 crores ( we need to remove China and other languages ). Puts into perspective the enormous show by Bahubali :woot:
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:hysterical:
sholay adjusted for inflation is 1627 crores thats the movie which really tested the hindi market BO stamina. HNY, kick, bhaijaan are all passing clouds. they are not legendary hits like sholay, hahk, mughal --- if baahubali is made in hindi with hrithik roshan/salman khan i dont see why it cannot make 1000+crores...
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sholay adjusted for inflation is 1627 crores thats the movie which really tested the hindi market BO stamina. HNY, kick, bhaijaan are all passing clouds. they are not legendary hits like sholay, hahk, mughal
Agree PS that 1627 cr is probably based on old numbers .... 2015 level could bump that up :dontknow:
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Talking about net, after one week in Ind: Bajrangi bhaijaan approx Rs 185 cr Bahubali approx Rs 148 cr "Salman Khan's "Bajrangi Bhaijaan" has shattered the first week box office collection records of "Baahubali - the Beginning" (Bahubali), Aamir Khan's "PK" and Shah Rukh Khan's "Happy New Year" with it's domestic income." "Salman Khan's "Bajrangi Bhaijaan" has also shattered the box office collection record of SS Rajamouli's "Baahubali". The magnum opus film raked in Rs 147.69 crore net income in its first week from India, including all languages. Salman's "Bajrangi Bhaijaan" even came close to the first week worldwide net box office collection of "Baahubali", which stands at Rs 185.69 crore. [Read: "Baahubali" seven days box office collection report]" And Bajrangi Bhaijaan is a regular flick :dontknow:
Bajrangi has a superstar and wider audience, bigger release. Bahubali has basically one state, Think if they had as a big a release in rest of India.
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But the film also spent a lot on creating hype, production budget, etc. (and reaching out to Hindi belt as well. Unless your claim is it was not released in Hindi) .... And I hv said that the film's budget was not utilized properly PS Bollywood represents whole Ind, not just the North. If many in South cannot understand Hindi, it is not Ind's problem :dontknow:
Yes, film was hyped but it didn't have as big a release in hindi belt. Even makers didn't realize it will garner such a response. It has already done 64 crores in Hindi belt beating Robot which did 23 crores. Think if they had bigger release. This is the first South film to gross 300 crores.
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PS some approx numbers for Bollywood after inflation (the number would keep on increasing) http://ibosnetwork.com/asp/actualalltime_worldwide.asp Rank Film Name Year Adjusted Domestic Gross Adjusted Overseas Gross Adjusted Worldwide Gross 1. Sholay Aug 15 1975 Rs. 1,627.32 cr 1,627.32 cr 2. Mughal E Azam Aug 5 1960 Rs. 1,327.10 cr 1,327.10 cr 3. Kismet Jan 1 1943 Rs. 1,087.78 cr 1,087.78 cr 4. Ratan Jan 1 1944 Rs. 990.48 cr 990.48 cr 5. Hum Aapke Hai Kaun Aug 5 1994 Rs. 960.21 cr 960.21 cr 6. Muqaddar Ka Sikandar Oct 27 1978 Rs. 941.89 cr 941.89 cr 7. Basant (1942) Jan 1 1942 Rs. 895.98 cr 895.98 cr 8. Zindagi Jan 1 1940 Rs. 864.52 cr 864.52 cr 9. Dilwale Dulhaniya Le Jayenge Oct 20 1995 Rs. 816.04 cr 816.04 cr 10. Amar Akbar Anthony Jan 1 1977 Rs. 809.54 cr 809.54 cr
This adjusted for inflation thing is rubbish. There are a lot of factors that affect film viewing. Biggest is piracy and Also there was only one form of entertainment existed in those times that was cinema. People could only watch cinema.
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@ rkt.india "think if it had a wider release" comment .... That's already been considered. By making such comments, it appears as if you are ignoring points such as: 1. The film makers had a huge budget to play with and thus had the option to make it in Hindi as well and decide on ways to maximize revenues (if you think it would hv) 2. In the week of July 10, the film had no major competition and it opened well in Hindi as well. The film was released in a large number of screens across India w/ relatively high ticket prices 3. "Think if had a wider release" argument can be made for any film - think if Bollywood had the reach of Hollywood and so on. No one goes about making calculations like how much a Bollywood film would hv grossed if it had access to similar markets as Hollywood's .... To access international market, you have to make films in English or make films like Life is beautiful (same would be the case for films made for Indians or Chinese or Korean or ....) On your comment on adjusted for inflation being rubbish ----> there are various factors that go in to economics. If you think that only one form of entertainment existed, the disposable income was less as well. Middle class was not that big, etc. .... and I guess every film would hv to be a major blockbuster because people would see it as they had nothing else to do :cantstop: (let's not make blind comments w/o understanding various factors)

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@ rkt.india "think if it had a wider release" comment .... That's already been considered. By making such comments, it appears as if you are ignoring points such as: 1. The film makers had a huge budget to play with and thus had the option to make it in Hindi as well and decide on ways to maximize revenues (if you think it would hv) 2. In the week of July 10, the film had no major competition and it opened well in Hindi as well. The film was released in a large number of screens across India w/ relatively high ticket prices 3. "Think if had a wider release" argument can be made for any film - think if Bollywood had the reach of Hollywood and so on. No one goes about making calculations like how much a Bollywood film would hv grossed if it had access to similar markets as Hollywood's .... To access international market, you have to make films in English or make films like Life is beautiful (same would be the case for films made for Indians or Chinese or Korean or ....) On your comment on adjusted for inflation being rubbish ----> there are various factors that go in to economics. If you think that only one form of entertainment existed, the disposable income was less as well. Middle class was not that big, etc. .... and I guess every film would hv to be a major blockbuster because people would see it as they had nothing else to do :cantstop: (let's not make blind comments w/o understanding various factors)
I guess it is you who are ignoring various factors, not me.
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Bahubali was also released in Ramzan month. You know first day collection of Bajrangi 27 crore. Why? Because it was a pre-eid release and collection increased significantly from Eid onwards.
And 27 crores is less :hysterical: (Btw Bahubali holds the record for opening day collection and that happened during Ramazan :winky: )
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Muslims account for 10% in AP and Telegana combined. In TN they account for about 6-7% In Kerala - 25% Incredible stuff despite.
Are you implying that Bahubali did not open at almost 100% in the South? (People would not want to sit in the front rows so it is hard to achieve 100% everywhere) I guess if it was not Ramazan, people would hv paid to watch the film from streets as there would be no good seat available in the cinemas :hysterical:
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Are you implying that Bahubali did not open at almost 100% in the South? (People would not want to sit in the front rows so it is hard to achieve 100% everywhere) I guess if it was not Ramazan, people would hv paid to watch the film from streets as there would be no good seat available in the cinemas :hysterical:
Yes, given the huge number of screens, it wasn't 100% opening for sure. And no, despite what you think, not even Bolly films open to 100% opening in all the 4500-5000 screens.
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Are you implying that Bahubali did not open at almost 100% in the South? (People would not want to sit in the front rows so it is hard to achieve 100% everywhere) I guess if it was not Ramazan, people would hv paid to watch the film from streets as there would be no good seat available in the cinemas :hysterical:
There are many theatres showing Bahubali where theatre owners let people standing into cinemas to avoid tax and ofcourse due to the film itself - Best ever in India IMO :winky: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/Bahubali-dents-entertainment-tax-revenue/articleshow/48165971.cms
According to sources, 'Bahubali' has already caused a revenue loss to the government in more ways than one. The black-marketing of tickets, about which the high court also refused to intervene, saying it was the job of the police to check, only filled the pockets of those in the film industry. "There was a huge loss of revenue because of this," a senior official of the commercial taxes department said. In the districts and rural areas, too, there has been a heavy dent in the entertainment tax from the day one of the film release. Though taxes were paid for 'houseful' shows, exhibitors resorted to malpractice to deprive the government of its share of the tax. In many theatres, according to sources, tickets were sold for huge amounts to those who were prepared to watch the film standing in the theatres. All this collection was unaccounted. There were also instances of theatre managements arranging extra seats to make a killing while avoiding payment of tax to government.
So whatever numbers we see is for accounted revenue. If we take real numbers, Bahubali would have much better figures than the already reported humongous numbers. :two_thumbs_up: Jai Mahismati :--D
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