Gollum Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 In stead of China, why not look at something closer, at home in India dear Bollywood stars? http://www.newsx.com/entertainment/4940-stop-yulin-dog-meat-festival-bollywood-raises-voice http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/alia-bhatt-sonakshi-sinha-and-anushka-sharma-protest-on-twitter-against-the-yulin-dog-meat-festival/ http://www.movietalkies.com/news/30541/bollywood-stands-up-against-china%27s-yulin-dog-meat-festival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 It's not just about eating dog meat but how they are treated and cruelty of this entire festival . Read about it as situation is not even comparable ..many countries eat dog meat and no one cares but this is infamous for cruelty or maybe it's just propaganda as I did not fact checked it but this was trending on social media last week .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 In stead of China, why not look at something closer, at home in India dear Bollywood stars? http://www.newsx.com/entertainment/4940-stop-yulin-dog-meat-festival-bollywood-raises-voice http://www.bollywoodlife.com/news-gossip/alia-bhatt-sonakshi-sinha-and-anushka-sharma-protest-on-twitter-against-the-yulin-dog-meat-festival/ http://www.movietalkies.com/news/30541/bollywood-stands-up-against-china%27s-yulin-dog-meat-festival Eating beef makes you progressive secular liberal , eating dog meat makes you backward chinese :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 It's not just about eating dog meat but how they are treated and cruelty of this entire festival . Read about it as situation is not even comparable ..many countries eat dog meat and no one cares but this is infamous for cruelty or maybe it's just propaganda as I did not fact checked it but this was trending on social media last week .. There is no special cruelity . pigs and chickens are treated in same way . if you eat meatb , eggs or milk then there is no point crying about dogs in China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 There is no special cruelity . pigs and chickens are treated in same way . if you eat meatb ' date=' eggs or milk then there is no point crying about dogs in China[/quote'] are you sure ? i am actually not 100 percent sure as i did not fact checked it but on social media (where these stars have raised voice ) the news was spreading of how they live skin the animals and other horrendous stuff ..like i said it just might be silly propaganda but i do not really expect our celebrities to research in detail this issue and then post :cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Cruelty against animals is shocking .... Below is the widely criticized Dolphin killing in Japan: hw_JhFNdFGk ^ ***terrible video that could make you feel sad so not for everyone (the water is all red with blood)*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 hypocritical dumb b*llywood blindly aping western trends of false outrage . They have no problem with the Slaughter of cows and goats . The Govt also continues to shamelessly promote the leather and meat industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/stop-the-yulin-dog-meat-festival-in-china-animal-welfare-campaigners-restart-petition-amid-distrust-over-government-ban-10305169.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gslv Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 :puke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBee Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Awful festival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket_Hacker Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 yum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackMamba Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Farhan Akhtar ?? Tweeted this. Went about his business and broke his Ramadan Fast in the evening by having a nice, big plate of juicy steak, mutton and tandoori chicken. A-Holes ! Who even gave them the god damn rights to speak about animal cruelty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 It's not just about eating dog meat but how they are treated and cruelty of this entire festival . Read about it as situation is not even comparable ..many countries eat dog meat and no one cares but this is infamous for cruelty or maybe it's just propaganda as I did not fact checked it but this was trending on social media last week .. NSFW Sabby being an animal lover myself I hate any form of cruelty towards any animal. But the bolded part is simply not true. All animals are treated very badly in slaughter houses in India. Take the example of beef slaughterhouses in this country since beef ban is a trending topic these days. Do you know that the biggest cow slaughterhouse (cow killing factory) in the WORLD is called alkabir in 400 acres of land with high security and many of the workers are Hindus. Al-Kabeer exports Pvt.Ltd. Rudraram Village, Andhra Pradesh, Patancheru, Medak, Hyderabad – 500 033. The story of Al-Kabir Hyderabad Tyranny: Don’t think that these animals are killed easily and painlessly. Their agonies start along before they are dead. They are brought to Alkair in trucks, from far away distances for economy, 20-25 huge buffalos are stacked up in each truck. Nobody cares to feed them food, or even water while in transit. They are packed so tightly in the truck, that they are hurt by each other. By the time they arrive, they are no more capable of standing on their own feet! They are moved with force of whips… They are brought into the final ground, where at least a thousand animals are stored. This is their last open air. They are kept here for four days, hungry and thirsty. Then their legs are broken and eyes poked, so that a ‘Certificate’ can be obtained about their uselessness. The hunger and thirst of four days cause the hemoglobin to move from blood in to fat. The meat with higher hemoglobin fetches better prices. Now these animals are pushed into washing showers. Extremely hot water (200 degrees!) is sprayed on them for five minutes, to soften their skins, so they will be easy to remove. The animals faints at this point, but it is not dead yet. Now it is hung upside down with one leg, on a chain-pulley conveyor. Then half of the neck is slit. This drains the blood, but does not kill the animal. After death, the skin swells thick, which sells for a poor price. But the skin of live Animals is still thin, which has better economic value. On one side the blood is dripping from the neck, and on the other side a hole is made in stomach, from which air is pumped inside. This causes the body to swell, making it easier to peel the skin. After removing the leather, the animal is cut into four pieces: head, legs, body, and tail. The machines remove bones, and pack small pieces of meat into cans for shipping to Alkabir’s headquarters in Hyderabad. From there it is shipped to Mumbai for exporting to its final destination. Working! Most of the people working here are Hindus. The Director, Subhash Sabarwal, is an NRI in Dubai, and his brother, Satish Sabarwal, manages the plant. The other principals are Ghulam Mohammed Sheikh (Dubai), Dilip Himmat Kothari, B.N. Raman, etc. Even though the main workers on cutting machines are from Kerala and Muslims from Mumbai, the administration, security, etc. consists mainly of Hindus. There are several other equally large (or large) plants in India, owned and operated similarly by NRI’s and Arab citizens in cooperation. The people working here are paid very handsomely. This is a big attraction. A monthly salary of Rs. 50,000 to 75,000 is common. At the site, there are many veterinarians, but their job is not to save healthy live. Their only concern is to see that the meat does not carry any germs which may hurt the customers. In fact, there is a small army of government veterinarians, whose job is to see that healthy and useful animals do not get butchered. But these corrupt officials write false certificates according to wishes of Alkabir. You cannot easily enter Alkabir, because outside people are not allowed in there. Even the local veterinarians and police cannot go inside, so there is no question about the other local poor people even coming close to its boundaries…Security is tightened at nights with hunting dogs. Now the neighboring people do not even come close to it. If you care about this please sign this petition. https://www.change.org/p/narendra-modi-k-chandrashekar-rao-al-kabeer-and-allana-abbatoir-in-hyderabad-break-several-rules-ban-cattle-slaughter https://www.facebook.com/ShankhNaad.Official/photos/a.602646016486322.1073741827.601086096642314/809421929142062/# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moniker Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 ^ That's horrific but banning cattle slaughter is not the solution. Measures must be taken to implement humane and scientific methods of slaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted June 20, 2015 Author Share Posted June 20, 2015 ^ That's horrific but banning cattle slaughter is not the solution. Measures must be taken to implement humane and scientific methods of slaughter. I agree that banning cattle slaughter houses isn't a solution because it will only push the business underground. But these ******** who violate all regulations and treat animals in the most inhumane way possible must be brought to task. Also the corrupt Govt officials who are supposed to make sure all this doesn't happen must be accountable. Only if we raise a collective voice to ban these hellholes will there be a compromise between the warring parties in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I agree that banning cattle slaughter houses isn't a solution because it will only push the business underground. But these ******** who violate all regulations and treat animals in the most inhumane way possible must be brought to task. Also the corrupt Govt officials who are supposed to make sure all this doesn't happen must be accountable. Only if we raise a collective voice to ban these hellholes will there be a compromise between the warring parties in question.or meat inIndia The root cause of cattle slaughter in India is milk industry . hardly anyone breeds cows or buffaloes for meat n India. Most of them are bred for dairy industry Criminalising Beef, Not Dairy Why am I making this argument? In the course of my research on animal slaughter in India, I discovered that the dairy industry used extremely cruel practices to extract milk from animals. After their milch days were over the cattle were then turned over to the slaughter industry. However, it is essential for me to stress repeatedly here that the act of cruelty for these cattle began much before they were groomed for the slaughterhouse. The cruelty was introduced, in a uniquely gendered way, literally from birth and expressly for the mass production of milk. Indeed, Verghese Kurien, the father of India's White Revolution had bluntly opposed the cow-slaughter prohibition as early as the 1960s on the basis that if India wanted cheap and plentiful milk, it had to kill its cattle on a mass-scale, as soon as the limits of dairy exploitation of the animals had been achieved. The terms 'useless', 'unproductive' and 'uneconomical' cattle are dairy-speak to justify slaughter. Agonising production process Cattle experience unimaginable misery to serve human dairy needs: female cattle no older than children are forced in what is for them, a forced sex routine of repeated pregnancies to produce milk till they are slaughtered for being 'useless'. Female cattle suffer severe abuse to increase milk production, and agonise each time they are separated from their calves after birth so humans can consume their milk. Male-calf infanticide is rampant to support lifelong human dairy wants. In the end, all 'spent' cattle, regardless of age, gender, health or species, are transported in unthinkably cruel conditions to inhumane slaughterhouses throughout the country once their utility for dairy is exhausted. All human communities, regardless of caste or religion consume copious amounts of dairy, everyday, and usually for the entirety of their life from birth to death. Aside from dietary consumption, even Hindu, Jain and Buddhist religions centrally rely on dairy. Major Shiva and Krishna temples of North India for instance each pour over 45,000 litres of milk per week on their deities during peak festival months. The smallest and most innocuous of Hindu rituals, from marriage to simple blessings, cannot proceed without milk or ghee as sacred offerings. Any meaningful cattle protection legislation must address the sheer and increasing scale of dairy consumption throughout India, regardless of communities. The protection selectively extended to only cows, bulls and their progeny - excluding buffaloes from its ambit - exposes the extent to which cattle protection, a sacred Hindu ethic is misunderstood or even strategically abused. Mahatma Gandhi interpreted cow-protection as 'protection of the whole dumb creation of God'. The cow to him represented 'the entire sub-human world'. Cow protection is not about protecting only the cow. To pretend that the buffalo is up for exploitation - an animal that is used, almost part-by-part in identical ways to the cow (with the glaring prohibition of buffalo dairy use in Hindu rituals as s/he is perceived to be a lower-caste bovine) - while the cow is not, is a convenient delusion that is rooted in religious hypocrisy and customer convenience. Rather, cow protection is a means for humans to transcend our limiting and illusory anthropocentrism, to take 'the human being beyond his species'. 'Hindus', Mahatma Gandhi believed, 'are enjoined to protect the cow by their tapasya, by self-purification, by self-sacrifice'. The task of cow-protection thus involves actively making self-aware choices by recognising animal sentience, and by abstaining from the temptation of consuming animals and animal-related products. What can genuine cattle protectionism look like in 2015 that is truly reflective of the realities - and not the fantasies - of the all-round cattle industry in India? Indeed, this question must extend to all animals and birds, fully sentient, cognitive, alive and terrified, whose bodies are utilised for human consumption - goats, sheep, hens and ducks, pigs and fish, among many others. The reality includes taking cognisance of the fact that human utilisation of birds and animals may never be fully eliminated - but it can be fully regulated. In the case of cattle specifically, a responsible government and citizenry in India must enable the following: First, bring dairy - and all products derived from cattle - into public and policy debate. Dairy's link with the extreme torture of all cattle must be clearly understood and publicised, especially given the India's absolute domination of the global dairy industry. In 2013-14, the National Dairy Development Board (NDDB) placed India's anticipated annual milk production at 137.6 million tonnes. 1 http://www.thehinducentre.com/the-arena/current-issues/article6982147.ece What surprises me is that there is defeaning silence on dairy industry, Indians love milk and milk products they want cheap milk but don't want cows to be slaughtered. If any govt forces farmers to keep old cattle then price of milk will go toward 100 rupees , even then there is no gurantee that old cattle will be fed, many will starve their cattle The solution is simple Allow humane slaughter of cattle including cows Stop or reduce milk consumption We already have 300 millions cows oxen and bulls and 1100 million buffaloes along with 1.3 billion people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 @gollum then solution is to change the rules and ban this type of treatment of animals.. i actually do not eat meat only fish and chicken some times but its clear that solution is not to just ban every type of meat but rather have EU type of regulations which improve the treatment of animals . similarly problem with this festival is not eating dog meat..this got attention firstly in western countries and most of them have problem with news which was spreading (like taking pets away from people and then skinning them alive ).. was ban on beef in india because of this reason ? if not then its not comparable. if ban was to stop such treatment of animals and then to place new rules then i am totally for the ban until they can learn how to deal with them correctly ..(i am sure majority of celebrities you are trying to mock ill agree with this too ) but do not compare banning of beef for religious reason to outrage against this festival because of animal cruelty ..let me repeat again i am totally for ban if it means they treat animals better in future..hopefully i am clear .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Why just dog meat? Why not stop other meats too protest against other meats. P.S - I don't care what people eat but this love for dogs only and not worry about other animals is kind of one sided. Either just preach the same for all animals or don't talk anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 All illegal activities are pushed underground but that is no excuse for not implementing and upholding the law. This is where effective governance comes in , to ensure illegal activities do not flourish underground also. The Govt's reluctance to implement a complete nationwide ban on cow slaughter cannot be justified by these feeble excuses. Constitution of India : " The State shall endeavour to organise agriculture and animal husbandry on modern and scientific lines and shall, in particular, take steps for preserving and improving the breeds, and prohibiting the slaughter of cows and calves and other milch and draught cattle."" Successive Governments have completely failed in this regard . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debutant Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Animals are meant to be eaten. If we can't eat it then it should be extinct as it uses the resources in earth. My two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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