gattaca Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Enough of sympathy for a terrorist. Hang him and get done with it than showing whole world we are a buzdil nation cant even hang the lone terrorist we caught just like kasab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 We deserve more 26/11 type attacks. There is more sympathy for terrorists amongst our public than for victims of countless terror attacks. Rotten mentality amongst many even on ICF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 We deserve more 26/11 type attacks. There is more sympathy for terrorists amongst our public than for victims of countless terror attacks. Rotten mentality amongst many even on ICF. Exactly. No wonder we are such a soft nation. We find sympathy even for hardened terrorists. Actually, our entire history is laced with several examples of going "soft" on the enemy. One of the arguments these "eminent" people are making is that those who actually planted the explosives have been let off with a life term, so why hang Yakub. So, instead of making a case for hanging all of them, they are saying " Spare this guy also because people who indulged in more heinous crimes have been spared." This kind of Lahori logic can only come from "eminent intellectuals" in India. Just look at the case of NDTV. It is running daily interviews with some Tom, Dick or Harry who seems to think poor Yakub is getting a raw deal. This is the same channel, which after Gujarat riots, was finding every single Muslim victim of riots and running their stories. They didn't seem to have any sympathy for Maya Godnani when she was convicted (and rightly so - criminals like her also deserve severe punishments). Now, they don't seem to be interested in any stories of 1993 victims and their families - how they coped with the loss and sufferings from all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Late B Raman Ex-RAW officer who headed the Pakistan Desk at the Research and Analysis Wing : Ex-RAW officer disturbed by"deception of officers of the investigating agencies " http://linkis.com/m.rediff.com/news/co/zCJ1k The part that is disturbing is that an ex-RAW officer is making comments to the press on a decision taken by the SC. Given the clout and the apparent interest Mr Raman has in the case, he should have deposed in front of the court and made his point of view evident. I don't think he has done anything of the sort. As a person with a legitimate role in the arrest of Yakub Memon, his testimony could have made a difference. Instead he chooses to openly bad mouth the decision of the Supreme Court to the press. Its one thing if a celeb with no understanding of the way the GoI works rattles of tweets/comments. Its quite something else when a senior technocrat does the same. As for the decision, there charge sheet and the judgement is quite voluminous. Would probably put Tolstoy's Anna Karenina to shame. Unless one knows all the facts, commenting on the fairness of the verdict is difficult. I'd expect our SC to do a fair and just job based on the case/evidence provided to them. Its the investigating agencies whom I don't think have come clean on this. Probably Yakub Memon didn't reveal all that he was supposed to as per their deal at the time of his arrest/surrender , or maybe its just chicanery by the investigative authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amiret Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The part that is disturbing is that an ex-RAW officer is making comments to the press on a decision taken by the SC. Mr.Raman is dead . His comments are from an unpublished interview/article which were published with the permission of his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Mr.Raman is dead . His comments are from an unpublished interview/article which were published with the permission of his brother. Apologies. Doesn't the point still stand? He made these (then unpublished) comments after the verdict, without actually being a part of the entire judicial process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anitha Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 We deserve more 26/11 type attacks. There is more sympathy for terrorists amongst our public than for victims of countless terror attacks. Rotten mentality amongst many even on ICF. You have zero clue don''t you? the very reason the likes of US has such a robust intelligence network is because it constantly bargains with it's enemies, provides amnesty and money to a lot of people who willingly help their investigation. Counter intelligence is big game, and we have to go for the long haul, not some low hanging fruit Clueless people going herr derp murder kill all terrorists/muslims is not going to help anything and it is also very clear when people have agenda while opening threads. If it was upto you you would have hanged the courier who used to deliver Osama's letters instead of using him to get to Osama. This is nothing to do with sympathy, it is doing what is practical to attract more defectors and people willing to switch sides for amnesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Enough of sympathy for a terrorist. Hang him and get done with it than showing whole world we are a buzdil nation cant even hang the lone terrorist we caught just like kasab. We deserve more 26/11 type attacks. There is more sympathy for terrorists amongst our public than for victims of countless terror attacks. Rotten mentality amongst many even on ICF. Exactly. No wonder we are such a soft nation. We find sympathy even for hardened terrorists. Actually, our entire history is laced with several examples of going "soft" on the enemy. One of the arguments these "eminent" people are making is that those who actually planted the explosives have been let off with a life term, so why hang Yakub. So, instead of making a case for hanging all of them, they are saying " Spare this guy also because people who indulged in more heinous crimes have been spared." This kind of Lahori logic can only come from "eminent intellectuals" in India. Just look at the case of NDTV. It is running daily interviews with some Tom, Dick or Harry who seems to think poor Yakub is getting a raw deal. This is the same channel, which after Gujarat riots, was finding every single Muslim victim of riots and running their stories. They didn't seem to have any sympathy for Maya Godnani when she was convicted (and rightly so - criminals like her also deserve severe punishments). Now, they don't seem to be interested in any stories of 1993 victims and their families - how they coped with the loss and sufferings from all these years. Did a quick glance of recent news on conutries who are not as bujdil as India and are very prompt in hanging people. In Malaysia Two former cops sentenced to death for murder http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/07/27/Court-cops-get-death/ In Kuwait 4 sentenced to death in Kuwait http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/07/28/15/4-sentenced-death-kuwait In Egypt Six sentenced to death in absentia over Ghad-Al Thawra Party storming case http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/136244/Egypt/Politics-/Six-sentenced-to-death-in-absentia-over-GhadAl-Tha.aspx As per logic given by some of the posters, all of these are very non-bujdil countries and least likely to have terrorist attacks. India should try to be like these countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 SC dismisses Yakub Memon's plea on death warrant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detonator Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 You have zero clue don''t you? the very reason the likes of US has such a robust intelligence network is because it constantly bargains with it's enemies, provides amnesty and money to a lot of people who willingly help their investigation. Counter intelligence is big game, and we have to go for the long haul, not some low hanging fruit Clueless people going herr derp murder kill all terrorists/muslims is not going to help anything and it is also very clear when people have agenda while opening threads. If it was upto you you would have hanged the courier who used to deliver Osama's letters instead of using him to get to Osama. This is nothing to do with sympathy, it is doing what is practical to attract more defectors and people willing to switch sides for amnesty. Yeah, US went for a long haul by executing Saddam Hussian and Che Guevera. So much for counter intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Did a quick glance of recent news on conutries who are not as bujdil as India and are very prompt in hanging people. In Malaysia Two former cops sentenced to death for murder http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/07/27/Court-cops-get-death/ In Kuwait 4 sentenced to death in Kuwait http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/07/28/15/4-sentenced-death-kuwait In Egypt Six sentenced to death in absentia over Ghad-Al Thawra Party storming case http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/136244/Egypt/Politics-/Six-sentenced-to-death-in-absentia-over-GhadAl-Tha.aspx As per logic given by some of the posters, all of these are very non-bujdil countries and least likely to have terrorist attacks. India should try to be like these countries. What warped logic is this? Seriously? Think about what you have posted again. Had any country faced a terror attack of the kind we witnessed spared its perpetrators? All those bargaining for a life sentence for this man, let me ask you one question- Has this man even admitted his guilt and shown remorse and shown any inclination to help serve humanity? All he has been saying is: "Tiger did everything, Tiger was involved. I am innocent." You guys are saying that he is guilty and deserves punishment, but the man himself is not even willing to admit his guilt. By the way, for the warped logic - here's another country that issues the death penalty much more frequently than India and its execution list in 2015 alone: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/execution-list-2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Did a quick glance of recent news on conutries who are not as bujdil as India and are very prompt in hanging people. In Malaysia Two former cops sentenced to death for murder http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/07/27/Court-cops-get-death/ In Kuwait 4 sentenced to death in Kuwait http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/07/28/15/4-sentenced-death-kuwait In Egypt Six sentenced to death in absentia over Ghad-Al Thawra Party storming case http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/1/64/136244/Egypt/Politics-/Six-sentenced-to-death-in-absentia-over-GhadAl-Tha.aspx As per logic given by some of the posters, all of these are very non-bujdil countries and least likely to have terrorist attacks. India should try to be like these countries. So the message you want to give terrorists is you can kill as many as you want. But we will not hang but we will feed you and keep you confined. Good luck explaining that to the people who lost their loved ones. They need some closure. Typing all this non sense behind keyboard look good as long as someone doesn't have close experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalia_Test Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I see a lot of Police security and patrol vans here in Hyderabad :nervous: Owaisi's comments are one reason and the demographics of Hyd. So Rajnath Singh is at Rashtrapathi Bhavan now and and he will convey Ministry of Home Affairs advice ( no clemency ) to President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Stay safe all Hyderabadi ICFers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swatpulla Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 President denies mercy plea, expected to be hanged tomorrow, say NDTV sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 So the message you want to give terrorists is you can kill as many as you want. But we will not hang but we will feed you and keep you confined. Good luck explaining that to the people who lost their loved ones. They need some closure. Typing all this non sense behind keyboard look good as long as someone doesn't have close experience. Just an example on your argument, Late PM Rajiv gandhi's family has asked for clemency for his killers. and yes, after this jihadist suicide bombers would be very scared in planning terror activities in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/editorials/yakub-memon-shouldnt-hang/ Israel — beset, like India, by terrorism — hasn’t executed anyone since 1962. Its first application of the sentence was in the case of Meir Tobianski, a soldier executed on treason charges in 1948 — and established, a year later, to have been innocent. Though the US and China retain the death penalty, the global trend is 58 for to 140 against. - See more at: http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/editorials/yakub-memon-shouldnt-hang/#sthash.moHl9mlK.dpuf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gslv Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 http://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/editorials/yakub-memon-shouldnt-hang/ May be because they execute all in the battlefields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 CJI to hear plea of senior lawyers at 2am According to TV reports, CJI is likely to hear the plea of senior lawyers seeking 14-day stay on Yakub's execution at 2am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 Hang this SOB immediately. Delaying will only increase public sympathy for this mass murderer. Sick of AdLibs who seem to see the innocent bomb blast victims as children of a lesser God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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