surajmal Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 yes ' date='police action is very much required to prevent such happenings in future.[/quote'] police works at the behest of political parties in power. So if they were to arrest the culprits, it would cause a giant sh!tstorm in the rapidly radicalized islamic mallustan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hari504504 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 People can ignore. How about some police RSS action? corrected.. what makes them soo daring is the knowledge that they will walk scott free eventually considering the political backing that they have.. Police can't really do much if the pressure comes from above People who do stuff like this should be facing vigilante justice...they'd never do it again... but then you have people crying over what Modi did with Godhra ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl1985 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 corrected.. what makes them soo daring is the knowledge that they will walk scott free eventually considering the political backing that they have.. Police can't really do much if the pressure comes from above People who do stuff like this should be facing vigilante justice...they'd never do it again... but then you have people crying over what Modi did with Godhra ! Yeah what Modi did was right wasn't it?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Imagine if a RSS guy left a burned pig corpse in the courtyard of a mosque. That news would have been slapped on every single national news media outlet. It would be shown for days and debated to no end. But this news doesn't receive much mention. Why this kolaveri di? Its happended in Bangalore a couple of time. Pig carcasses were left at mosques on Fridays. thankfully all people involved were very mature about the whole thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanSaab Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Its happended in Bangalore a couple of time. Pig carcasses were left at mosques on Fridays. thankfully all people involved were very mature about the whole thing It happens more often than hindus probably realize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 sacred animal?/ lol Are you laughing because it is not factual? But, cow being sacred to Hindus is factual, debatable if it has to be sacred, but definitely large amounts of Hindus believe a cow is to be revered for a fact. If a moslem gets offended by cartoons of pigambar, why not a hindu get so for seeing his holy cow getting slaughtered in one his temples? slaughter cows all you want and feed the hungry, but why do you want to kill them in temples where the cow is revered? Urinals are scarce in India , if so, do you want to let people pee in churches and mosques just because there is a lot of open space there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
germanrotweiler Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I myself being a malayali can say the kerala is not the place that it used to be...politicians no matter from which religion they belong goes begging to the minorities for their votes and turns a blind eye towards their frantic leaders who sow hatred seeds into the minds of uneducated poor young muslims... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriterion Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 While this is a despicable act, its just as bad to attempt to paint an entire community of 150 million as some are doing here on the basis of this ISOLATED incident. I just met a pair of brothers from Lucknow and asked them if they slaughtered cows for Eid, which is the custom in Bangladesh, and they said "no, why would we do that? you can't offend your neighbors." The overwhelmning majority are actually excercising restrictions on their religion and are still being painted in a unsavory fashion and thats quite unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedhi Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 While this is a despicable act' date=' its just as bad to attempt to paint an entire community of 150 million as some are doing here on the basis of this ISOLATED incident.[/quote']What an absurd statement .. that commenting on an internet forum is as bad slaughtering a pregnant cow in the premises of a temple (!!). Did you even think before writing this? The people who are painting them in bad light are fellow muslims who commit such acts, not the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarke Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 The overwhelmning majority are actually excercising restrictions on their religion and are still being painted in a unsavory fashion and thats quite unfair. So sad, can't eat cow, what to feed the four legal wives :(( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 While this is a despicable act, its just as bad to attempt to paint an entire community of 150 million as some are doing here on the basis of this ISOLATED incident. I just met a pair of brothers from Lucknow and asked them if they slaughtered cows for Eid, which is the custom in Bangladesh, and they said "no, why would we do that? you can't offend your neighbors." The overwhelmning majority are actually excercising restrictions on their religion and are still being painted in a unsavory fashion and thats quite unfair. From my experience the few vocal loony bins on internet forums are nowhere representative of India, and certainly not of Lucknow. And it's not only Muslims who go out of their way to accommodate the Hindu religion, but it is a mutual and reciprocal relationship, something essential in a city with 25-30% Muslim population and a majority Muslim population in old Lucknow. India has seen it's fair share of communal turmoil since independence, but Lucknow has never witnessed a communal riot despite being at the hot bed of the Babri Masjid demolition and numerous attempts by political parties to exploit the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arun81 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 From my experience the few vocal loony bins on internet forums are nowhere representative of India, and certainly not of Lucknow. And it's not only Muslims who go out of their way to accommodate the Hindu religion, but it is a mutual and reciprocal relationship, something essential in a city with 25-30% Muslim population and a majority Muslim population in old Lucknow. India has seen it's fair share of communal turmoil since independence, but Lucknow has never witnessed a communal riot despite being at the hot bed of the Babri Masjid demolition and numerous attempts by political parties to exploit the situation. Yeah sure please google for lucknow riots.... one of the main reasons Hindu-Muslim tensions remain less in lucknow is due to shia-sunni rivalry there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 While this is a despicable act, its just as bad to attempt to paint an entire community of 150 million as some are doing here on the basis of this ISOLATED incident. Yes, it is bad to attempt to paint an entire community, but this is not an ISOLATED incident. Recently, in the same state, a college teacher's hands were cut off cause he set a paper which contained questions which offended some. There is an alarming pattern developing from these ISOLATED incidents. You don't need an incident a day to deem that there is an issue. Few of these are enough to be worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny_Pacquiao Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Are you laughing because it is not factual? But, cow being sacred to Hindus is factual, debatable if it has to be sacred, but definitely large amounts of Hindus believe a cow is to be revered for a fact. If a moslem gets offended by cartoons of pigambar, why not a hindu get so for seeing his holy cow getting slaughtered in one his temples? slaughter cows all you want and feed the hungry, but why do you want to kill them in temples where the cow is revered? Urinals are scarce in India , if so, do you want to let people pee in churches and mosques just because there is a lot of open space there? i am laughing because i find the concept of protecting a domesticated animal to be quite bizarre, especially in a country where thousands go hungry every day. religious obsession is the bane of indian society. it has destroyed the subcontinent and created a whole host of problems that dont seem to be going away anytime soon, both in the political spectrum and in everyday life. as for your question, i have no problem with that. turning many religious places of worship into urinals, shelters, what have u. sounds like a practical idea considering the needs of the many destitute ppl residing in india. i would take four permanent walls over some bullshit religious prayer anyday. think about the jama masjid area in old delhi, the mosque is absolutely massive, takes up a ridiculous amount of space, while you have tiny little slums all over the place surrounding it. what a waste of land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriterion Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 What an absurd statement .. that commenting on an internet forum is as bad slaughtering a pregnant cow in the premises of a temple (!!). Did you even think before writing this? OK fine its not as bad. But the point I am trying to make is that exploiting such events to malign and foment hatred against the 99% who didn't have anything to do with it is quite morally repugnant. Its no different than wishing Yuvy a speedy demise because guess what some of his coreligionists blew up a plane some years ago and killed the prime minister. Why stop there, why not hold me personally responsible for this temple desecration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arun81 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 OK fine its not as bad. But the point I am trying to make is that exploiting such events to malign and foment hatred against the 99% who didn't have anything to do with it is quite morally repugnant. Its no different than wishing Yuvy a speedy demise because guess what some of his coreligionists blew up a plane some years ago and killed the prime minister. Why stop there, why not hold me personally responsible for this temple desecration? Please do not do an equal to equal to Sikhs...Sikhs did not murder 90 million hindus , destroyed Hindu culture, organized mass genocides and continue the same even to this day...... What a bizzare comparison Claiming victimhood and using it for radical propaganda and justifying terrorism on innocents has become the vogue for muslims... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedhi Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 OK fine its not as bad. But the point I am trying to make is that exploiting such events to malign and foment hatred against the 99% who didn't have anything to do with it is quite morally repugnant. Its no different than wishing Yuvy a speedy demise because guess what some of his coreligionists blew up a plane some years ago and killed the prime minister. Why stop there' date=' why not hold me personally responsible for this temple desecration?[/quote']As long as someone is not harming another person physically, or spreading personal defamation against him/her, I dont see it as a big deal. In fact, if someone makes a case for or against a particular religion or ideology based on reason and facts, I would be perfectly willing to hear it out and certainly such voices need not be suppressed. Their actions supplied the paint for the brushes. And this is quite natural, after all no religion or ideology can be completely isolated from the actions of its followers. Even if it is unfair to generalize from a few persons to the whole community, the underlying ideology can definitely be critiqued and evaluated, at least partially on the basis of this and similar events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Peter Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Please do not do an equal to equal to Sikhs...Sikhs did not murder 90 million hindus , destroyed Hindu culture, organized mass genocides and continue the same even to this day...... What a bizzare comparison Very well said . The hatred for Native Kaffir Culture / Religion and obsession with converting their states into Desert Bandit Islamic Sultanates is a very old phenomenon . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arun81 Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 Very well said . The hatred for Native Kaffir Culture / Religion and obsession with converting their states into Desert Bandit Islamic Sultanates is a very old phenomenon . The hatred disappears when it comes to Kaffir women who are fair game though... http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/security/280201/suspects-partied-in-pattaya/page-2/ Suspects partied in Pattaya Officials at the Immigration Department's Chon Buri office yesterday identified a Thai woman in Pattaya who had escorted the Iranian bomb suspects during their stay in the resort town. Her account, and photographs taken with her mobile phone, could help authorities confirm whether the suspects know one another. The woman, in her twenties, and identified only as Nan, told the immigration officers that she had escorted Mohammad Khazaei, who was detained at Suvarnabhumi airport late on Tuesday after a series of explosions on Sukhumvit Soi 71. Mr Khazaei met Ms Nan near the Balihai area in Pattaya. She said the Iranian asked her to escort him during his stay there because he was not good at speaking English. Ms Nan later asked two friends to escort Mr Khazaei's two companions. They were later identified from a group photo on Ms Nan's mobile phone as Saeid Moradi and Masoud Sedaghat Zadeh, the third bomb suspect who was arrested in Malaysia yesterday. During their stay in Pattaya, from Feb 8 to 13 according to their hotel's registration, Ms Nan and her friends hung out with the three men. In one group gathering, shown in a photo, they were winding down in a bar in a hotel. Ms Nan said they had drinks and played snooker together. Ms Nan was with Mr Khazaei in his room as well but didn't detect any irregularities except one time when he barred her from approaching a closet in the room. On the last day, Monday, Mr Khazaei told her that he would go home. So she phoned a taxi to pick him up. "What we got from Ms Nan is circumstantial evidence that helps confirm to us that they were here together in Pattaya," Pol Lt Gol Thawatchai Nongbua, inspector of Chon Buri Immigration Office, said. National police chief Priewpan Damapong said police took Ms Nan to the immigration bureau in Bangkok to make Mr Khazaei feel more at ease. Earlier, the suspect had showed signs of stress and refused to eat. After he met Ms Nan, he appeared more relaxed and agreed to eat some food, Pol Gen Priewpan said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted February 21, 2012 Share Posted February 21, 2012 While this is a despicable act, its just as bad to attempt to paint an entire community of 150 million as some are doing here on the basis of this ISOLATED incident. The overwhelmning majority are actually excercising restrictions on their religion and are still being painted in a unsavory fashion and thats quite unfair. What restrictions? You make it sounds as if cow slaughter is mandatory to every Muslim. In fact, the qurbani in itself is the prerogative of the malik e nisab. And any large mammal can be sacrificed. Sacrificing a cow, just because it hurts the sentiments of others as against sacrificing other mammals which are just as readily available negates the whole meaning of the ritual. The sacrifice is to symbolize willingness to depart with things that are close to our hearts and share them with those who are not as fortunate. The sacrifice is not an occasion for oneupmanship. By the by, in the times of Prophet Mohammad (SAW) in central Arabia, do you think that cows, buffalos and oxen were in abundant supply? Which animal do you think was mainly used for the qurbani? IIRC, the Prophet (SAW) himself sacrificed two rams and a camel. What we have here is a provocative and criminal act. No more, no less. No the muslims who did this act painted themselves; the baghwan bandwagon painted the other 149, 999, 950 with the brush in their hands. Those muslims couldn't have painted anything since they don't own art utensils as that is generally seen to be haram. This is very debatable. Can you source me a verse from the holy Quran that says that paintings are haram? From what I understand there are a few hadiths that prohibit painting of animate objects. Having said that, there isn't any call for a blanket ban on paintings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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