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A 50-year-old activist of the right wing Vishwa Hindu Parishad who was injured in clashes between Hindu and Muslim groups died in the Madikeri government hospital on Tuesday morning. He was protesting the celebration of the birth anniversary of controversial 18th century Mysore ruler Tipu Sultan in the Madikeri town of the Kodagu district of Karnataka.

The activist identified as Kutapppa, 50, suffered head injuries during stone throwing when the pro-Tipu Sultan group and Hindutva activists clashed at the Thimmaiah circle in the centre of Madikeri town on Tuesday morning.

 

The clashes erupted after a Muslim group that was taking out a procession to mark the Karnataka government’s Tipu Sultan Jayanti celebration through Madikeri town came face to face with Hindutva activists protesting against the celebration of the birth anniversary in the middle of the town.

 

While Karnataka Chief Minister Siddaramaiah has described Tipu Sultan as an early freedom fighter who fought the British and governed the Mysore region in a secular manner the BJP and the RSS have described Tipu Sultan as a ‘religious bigot’ who forced local communities to convert to Islam.

The Tipu Jayanti celebrations were marked by protests in the Tumkur district of Karnataka as well.

A grand event to mark the birth anniversary was organised at the Banquet Hall in the Vidhana Soudha in Bengaluru on Tuesday morning with Minister Siddaramaiah and several of his cabinet ministers in attendance.

The opposition to the celebration of the birthday of the former Mysore ruler is an agenda of communal forces, Siddaramaiah said. “Tipu Sultan was secular, he fought the British rulers in three wars. In a way the freedom struggle began with the Mysore wars between Tipu and the British,” the Karnataka CM said.

Calling Tipu Sultan, who is considered a folk hero among sections of the Muslim community in Karnataka, a fanatic is a baseless charge, he added. “He contributed to the Sringeri Mutt, and temples like the Nanjangud and Ranganatha Swami Temples.”

The Kshetriya Sanghchalak for the RSS for the Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Telangana region, V Nagaraj, had on Friday stated that the Sangh would lend its weight to groups protesting against the celebration of Tipu Sultan’s birthday since the former king Mysore was an ‘intolerant ruler’.

“Most people are opposed to this celebration. Tipu was the ruler of Mysore but at the same time he was the most intolerant king. It is recorded in history not by the RSS. His sword was meant to kill kafirs,” the RSS functionary had stated.

State BJP leader Prahlad Joshi had on Monday issued a directive to all BJP leaders in the state to stay away from all events held around the state to mark the birth anniversary of Tipu Sultan.

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Protests in Karnataka as Government Marks Tipu Sultan's Birth Anniversary

 A man died in Karnataka on Tuesday amid clashes over the celebration of the birth anniversary of Tipu Sultan, an 18th century ruler who is a much-debated figure in history.

The police say that the man, reportedly an activist of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, died of a fall from a 15-foot boundary wall during a stone-throwing protest in Kodagu, 250 km from Bengaluru. He was trying to run away from the police baton-charge on protesters, says senior officer Om Prakash.

The opposition BJP has called for an investigation into the death. "The government did not take precautionary measures," said Prahlad Joshi, the party's state chief.

Despite the protests, the Congress government held a function to mark the birth anniversary of Tipu Sultan, who ruled Mysore from 1782 to 1799.

The BJP boycotted the event. The party, its ideological mentor Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, and their affiliates believe that Tipu Sultan was a tyrant who forcefully converted Hindus and persecuted Christians.

The ruling Congress, however, says Tipu Sultan was a "progressive and secular" king.

"Some communal forces are opposing this celebration. Most people are supporting it," Mr Siddaramaiah told NDTV, adding, "It was expected that the BJP would boycott it. What else could we expect from BJP and RSS people?"

The Congress says Tipu was one person who promoted communal harmony and helped restore destroyed temples.

Calling Tipu the "most intolerant king in history", senior RSS leader V Nagaraj said: "Most of the people have supported the protests. You can go through recorded history, his own statements, and what was written on his sword. On his sword it was clearly mentioned it was meant to kill the kaffirs."

 

One BJP lawmaker, Abdul Azeem, differs from the party line. "Tipu Sultan was very secular and gave equal treatment to Hindus and Muslims. Not only mosques but also temples were looked after," he says.

http://m.ndtv.com/karnataka-news/man-dies-during-protests-against-tipu-sultan-celebrations-in-karnataka-1242088?pfrom=home-topstories

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Well.History should be viewed with a pinch of salt and Tip's tyranny or braveness both has takers. It is well knows that Tipu was intolerant and killed people mercilessly. Point in being he killed 800 people belonging to Iyengar priests clan on diwali day in temple town Melkote because they are the friends and relatives of the ministers of Mysore wodeyar. Till now Diwali is not celebrated in this town. Whats the point in celebrating such king with a 'jayanti" sponsored by state government? That too on diwali day?  It is well known that he mercilessly converted HIndus and Christians of Kerala, but now he is regarded as secular king? If you want to celebrate some muslim  perosnalities, why not some sufi saints or Kalam? 

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Well.History should be viewed with a pinch of salt and Tip's tyranny or braveness both has takers. It is well knows that Tipu was intolerant and killed people mercilessly. Point in being he killed 800 people belonging to Iyengar priests clan on diwali day in temple town Melkote because they are the friends and relatives of the ministers of Mysore wodeyar. Till now Diwali is not celebrated in this town. Whats the point in celebrating such king with a 'jayanti" sponsored by state government? That too on diwali day?  It is well known that he mercilessly converted HIndus and Christians of Kerala, but now he is regarded as secular king? If you want to celebrate some muslim  perosnalities, why not some sufi saints or Kalam? 

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Some day I'll also read some Sanghi books on history out of a mild curiosity for the absurd, but in the meanwhile here is what a real historian has to say about Tipu:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/may/24/foreignpolicy.india?CMP=share_btn_tw

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/nov/09/featuresreviews.guardianreview5?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Some day I'll also read some Sanghi books on history out of a mild curiosity for the absurd, but in the meanwhile here is what a real historian has to say about Tipu:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/may/24/foreignpolicy.india?CMP=share_btn_tw

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/nov/09/featuresreviews.guardianreview5?CMP=share_btn_tw

Someday visit the Coorg area and places around it and praise Tipu Sultan.Come back and tell the story.That is if you come back.

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Some day I'll also read some Sanghi books on history out of a mild curiosity for the absurd, but in the meanwhile here is what a real historian has to say about Tipu:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/may/24/foreignpolicy.india?CMP=share_btn_tw

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/nov/09/featuresreviews.guardianreview5?CMP=share_btn_tw

Do you think Gaurdian,UK carries any point of view disobliging to Islam?

Why dont you read the sources quoted in this article for a start and see whats absurd?

http://www.dailyo.in/politics/why-tipu-sultan-was-a-false-hero/story/1/1278.html

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Once again some brilliant display of intelligence by Sanghis - go to X place, discredit the messenger etc. Nothing factual, logical, or scientific. Too much for those poor brain cells fried by Shakha indoctrination.

Quote XYZ historian and only read one side of the story because it fits your agenda.

And i find nothing more logical than visiting a place myself and knowing about its history.

And seems you in your high and mighty attitude have a very low opinion about education and knowledge of others.

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As usual intellectual seculars started their propaganda.[Hindu lives no longer matter anyway.]

 

From  First post article, they quoted 3 different historians [Hindu/Muslim/Christian]

   Tipu’s biographer and courtier Mir Hussein Kirmani wrote about Tipu’s exploits in Coorg in his The History of Tipu Sultan, "The conquering Sultan dispatched his Amirs and Khans with large bodies of troops to punish those idolaters and reduce the whole country (Coorg) to subjection. They attacked and destroyed many towns. Eight thousand men, women, and children were taken as prisoners. They were collected in an immense crowd like a flock of sheep or herd of bullocks."

But these are fiction, according to Sandeep Balakrishnan, author of the definitive work titled Tipu Sultan, The Tyrant of Mysore. Balakrishnan says in a recent article that the gifts to Sringeri Mutt were meant to placate Hindus, who he feared would rise against him. It came at a time when Tipu had been drubbed during the Third Anglo-Mysore war of 1791. With the Marathas gaining in strength, the last thing he needed was to upset the Hindu majority among his subjects. Similarly, while he fought the British, he aligned himself with the French, whose Indian aspirations matched the British in greed and ruthlessness.

If Tipu’s actions in Coorg were questionable, his actions in Malabar were said to be worse. Portuguese missionary Father Bartholomew wrote in his book, Voyage to East Indies, “Women and children were hanged in Calicut, first mothers were hanged and their children tied to necks of mothers. That barbarian Tipu Sultan tied naked Christians and Hindus to the legs of elephants and made the elephants to move around till the bodies of the helpless victims were torn to pieces.” After the pillage of Calicut, Tipu wrote to his generals: “Almost all Hindus in Calicut are converted to Islam. Only on the borders of Cochin State a few are still not converted. I am determined to convert them also very soon. I consider this as Jihad to achieve that object.”

http://www.firstpost.com/politics/why-the-coorg-are-upset-with-tipu-sultan-and-the-karnataka-governments-efforts-to-honour-him-2502144.htmlhttp://www.firstpost.com/politics/why-the-coorg-are-upset-with-tipu-sultan-and-the-karnataka-governments-efforts-to-honour-him-2502144.html

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