express bowling Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Just for the record: Ishant is a very average ok-ish bowler even now (even tests). His improvement now has been long (long, long, long) over-due. But even now, he is average and no great shakes. That the slightly-improved (after long due) Ishant is penciled in as #1 or #2 if we want a medium pacer shows the paucity of good genuine accurate pacers/medium-pacers in India.Ishant is bowling good areas nowadays in test matches ...at 135 k to 145 k. getting good bounce and seam movement after improving his seam position. He is averaging 31 in tests from the beginning of 2014....from the NZ tour.He is looking like a consistent bowler who is maintaining pressure on the batsman from his end...not giving away easy runs.. He is picking up wickets overseas. That is quite good actually. Ishant is more of a support pacer and his utility will be felt even more if and when Umesh can become a consistent strike bowler ( Umesh has the much needed wicket taking ability in various conditions ) doccricket 1 Link to comment
adi B Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Let me put it this way,had rahul or nair got those many chances as nohit,they would have performed much better and probably cemented their place in the side.nohit at crease gives you no confidence at all.Talking about Pishant,he's a good bowler when there's something in the pitch,on flat pitches or turning pitches ,he's poor.with the amount of overs he bowled over the course of the 3 tests ,he should have at least picked 5 wkts but he picked only 1 wkt throughout the series(although kept it tight) which shows how inconsistent he is Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) That's the point. IS is a support bowler (and in that role, he is good now - that too only nowadays after so many Tests where he was useless), not your main bowler even now.And as far as Nohit - since thats more the title of this thread for LOL and fun purpose - no serious reply from me on it except ROFL! But I am glad that Nohit debate has made the forum more alive, so I am happy :) Edited December 17, 2015 by fineleg Mosher 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) That's the point. IS is a support bowler (and in that role, he is good now - that too only nowadays after so many Tests where he was useless), not your main bowler even now.And as far as Nohit - since thats more the title of this thread for LOL and fun purpose - no serious reply from me on it except ROFL! But I am glad that Nohit debate has made the forum more alive, so I am happy :)It might be a joke to you because of your personal vendetta against a player( you even criticised his Mom in the semis and recently his T20 century ) so I am glad you will not add your inputs here Edited December 17, 2015 by maniac Link to comment
kruiser Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Yuvraj got only one chance for comeback.. he should be given another go. And Pankaj Singh. And Badrinath. And Karn Sharma. And..... Edited December 17, 2015 by kruiser Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) I never criticized his mom!? Mom didn't do anything!Regarding him - no criticism is sufficient for him :) or for selectors who show bias by selecting him. Edited December 17, 2015 by fineleg tweaker 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Yuvraj got only one chance for comeback.. he should be given another go. And Pankaj Singh. And Badrinath. And Karn Sharma. And.....One chance? Yuvraj first played against Aus and failed big time on pitches where teams were scoring 350 plus runs. Then came T20 WC. His struggle against spin is well known. tweaker 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 India's answer to avengers tweaker 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 There is no better comic 'series' than last few of his test innings lol sscomp32, beetle, Ankit_sharma03 and 2 others 5 Link to comment
maniac Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 This is it rohit...time to step up...needs to be given the entire wi tour and then assessed. 1)has to play all games 2) has to play atleast 8 innings 3) pitch conditions taken into account to make a judgement will be watching very closely tweaker 1 Link to comment
sscomp32 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Viper said: Ye Bambi quota He will be gone no where TALENT keeps him alive in Pest Team Although the bambi quota is very rampant and it gets super irritating when bambi commies behave like mesmerized teenagers when talent bats, He will stay in for different reasons. The Test Captain is his biggest fan in the country. beetle and tweaker 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) Picking Rohit in test matches is a poor decision and the selectors as well as Kohli deserve criticism for this. When a team is selected and there is a star as the captain ( like Kohli, Dhoni, Ganguly or Dravid ) then the selectors rarely do anything without the captain's consent.....so both the selectors as well as the captain deserve criticism or praise depending on the players being selected. Edited May 24, 2016 by express bowling sscomp32, tweaker, beetle and 1 other 4 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 I think this is it....just gibe him a run this test season......if not drop him for good.....atleast 10 innings need to be the criteria. I still think Rohit can be our Gilchrist/Andrew Symonds........Good base he can come in and put the game out of the opposition's reach.....trouble at the top,can come and rescue the game.......Probably the final piece of puzzle that will take Indian cricket to great heights. But no mercy....10 unchanged innings and that is it. Link to comment
sourab10forever Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 3 minutes ago, maniac said: I think this is it....just gibe him a run this test season......if not drop him for good.....atleast 10 innings need to be the criteria. I still think Rohit can be our Gilchrist/Andrew Symonds........Good base he can come in and put the game out of the opposition's reach.....trouble at the top,can come and rescue the game.......Probably the final piece of puzzle that will take Indian cricket to great heights. But no mercy....10 unchanged innings and that is it. The problem is that we already have Vijay,Dhawan,Rahul along with Rohit. Don't think it is possible to give 10 odd innings to one guy. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 minute ago, maniac said: I think this is it....just gibe him a run this test season......if not drop him for good.....atleast 10 innings need to be the criteria. I still think Rohit can be our Gilchrist/Andrew Symonds........Good base he can come in and put the game out of the opposition's reach.....trouble at the top,can come and rescue the game.......Probably the final piece of puzzle that will take Indian cricket to great heights. But no mercy....10 unchanged innings and that is it. What if we give him 8 innings n he make 2- 50 in them and then same old story continous him failing like ever before. Wi are not a gr8 team. Another ques is is there any improvement in him that he shud be given so many more chances specially avg 22 in last 14, now 14 test is already a lot. I saw his innings in warmup game n there is no improvement in his technique n i have compiled all his dismiisal n soon will have thread to show his major technical flaw due to which he can never be successful in test . His temp is already under ques? Another thing is wat else does he offer once he gets out, India right now needs a 5th bowler as we dnt have luxury of sehwag, sachin, ganguly so team needs 5th bowler more than rohit the individual needing more chances Link to comment
maniac Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 minute ago, sourab10forever said: The problem is that we already have Vijay,Dhawan,Rahul along with Rohit. Don't think it is possible to give 10 odd innings to one guy. Vijay is a fixture....Rahul has still not cemented his spot,6 batsmen strategy can come into play.......Also Rohit is hands down the best parttime spinner in India and might be more useful with the ball than Binny on WI tracks. Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 minute ago, maniac said: Vijay is a fixture....Rahul has still not cemented his spot,6 batsmen strategy can come into play.......Also Rohit is hands down the best parttime spinner in India and might be more useful with the ball than Binny on WI tracks. No he is nt the best part timer spinner, raina is way better. Yuvraj is way better, hooda and few other can bowl more. Dnt rem the last he bowl n took wkts. Link to comment
maniac Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: What if we give him 8 innings n he make 2- 50 in them and then same old story continous him failing like ever before. Wi are not a gr8 team. Another ques is is there any improvement in him that he shud be given so many more chances specially avg 22 in last 14, now 14 test is already a lot. I saw his innings in warmup game n there is no improvement in his technique n i have compiled all his dismiisal n soon will have thread to show his major technical flaw due to which he can never be successful in test . His temp is already under ques? Another thing is wat else does he offer once he gets out, India right now needs a 5th bowler as we dnt have luxury of sehwag, sachin, ganguly so team needs 5th bowler more than rohit the individual needing more chances As I said best part time bowling option in India and add to his batting skill.....yeah he might fail the odd innings but if he clicks,a guy that can go in Auto Pilot mode in ODI's .....can you imagine if he gets set in tests? Last time I checked he was the highest scorer from India in the warmup game and he was Notout Edited July 11, 2016 by maniac Link to comment
maniac Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share Posted July 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: No he is nt the best part timer spinner, raina is way better. Yuvraj is way better, hooda and few other can bowl more. Dnt rem the last he bowl n took wkts. Are Raina and Yuvraj better than Rohit as test batsmen? Link to comment
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