speedheat Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Even in IPL, Aaron has far better record in every aspect despite playing a lot of matches at Chinnaswamy where 180-200 scores are a norm.http://www.iplt20.com/teams/royal-challengers-bangalore/squad/61/varun-aaron Pawan negi can give a ball wack... Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 jadeja is a much better bowler than negi. So we will not be able to select negi in any matches.We won't really know till Negi plays for India..Looked like a good bowler in Deodhar Trophy. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 No Pandey, Pandey cud bat and cud openVirat cud also openBut rahane is there...........really, rahane cant bat anywere else than openingRahane will most be back up.I personally feels Rahane's fielding got him selected over Pandey. Mostly Shikar and Rohit will open. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Plus i am sure the likes of Pandey will travel with the squad as "coach" as Dhawal Kulkarni was with during the WC in Aus. As the tournament is in India, I think Pandey Bhuvi Aaron etc will all be "coaches". If somebody gets injured outside the first 11 which will be close to the one which played in Aus recently India will just get these players to be in the team and first line. vayuu1 1 Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I really don't get all the Aaron love. Not seem him in any domestic matches but the guy has been atrocious in international matches. I think he must have played 10 tests and 10 ODIs and he has been garbage throughout. No control over his line and length, just phaaaashit. We should not go the padosi way and pick braindead morons just because they bowl 140+. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I really don't get all the Aaron love. Not seem him in any domestic matches but the guy has been atrocious in international matches. I think he must have played 10 tests and 10 ODIs and he has been garbage throughout. No control over his line and length, just phaaaashit. We should not go the padosi way and pick braindead morons just because they bowl 140+. how is one going to improve if he does not play. Most fast bowlers can be erratic in their early career. He has barely played 9 ODIs till now. 4 of them were in 2011 before his injury. So he has played 5 ODIs in last 4 years and you are judging him based on that. Look at Adam Milne. NZ still persists with him and has played 30 ODIs already without doing much just because he bowls quick, 145 plus. We here are talking about a rare breed. You cannot waste such bowlers. Let them play consistently for a period of time. We did persist with Yadav, did well in WC though he did not progress to my expectations, so, I have no problem if he is not selected in LOIs now. But now Aaron needs to be given more chances likes others. Mosher, Ironhide, diehardpacer and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Dil Dil India Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 how is one going to improve if he does not play. Most fast bowlers can be erratic in their early career. He has barely played 9 ODIs till now. 4 of them were in 2011 before his injury. So he has played 5 ODIs in last 4 years and you are judging him based on that. Look at Adam Milne. NZ still persists with him and has played 30 ODIs already without doing much just because he bowls quick, 145 plus. We here are talking about a rare breed. You cannot waste such bowlers. Let them play consistently for a period of time. We did persist with Yadav, did well in WC though he did not progress to my expectations, so, I have no problem if he is not selected in LOIs now. But now Aaron needs to be given more chances likes others.Not against giving him more chances per se. We play so many JAMODIs. Could easily give him a few games there. Just against getting him to play an ICC tournament for practice. Also, he has been consistently crap in tests as well. He has played what, 10 tests? Could give him a few more against the weaker sides and see how he goes maybe. Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I really don't get all the Aaron love. Not seem him in any domestic matches but the guy has been atrocious in international matches. I think he must have played 10 tests and 10 ODIs and he has been garbage throughout. No control over his line and length, just phaaaashit. We should not go the padosi way and pick braindead morons just because they bowl 140+. If someone like BK keeps getting selected inspite of doing nothing for last 1 year, why not someone like Aaron who has hardly played any ODI's/T20's recently. Whatever games he has played recently he has improved a bit whereas accuracy is concerned but he still needs improve a lot. But he is not going to magically become a really good bowler by just bowling in domestic matches. Ironhide, express bowling and diehardpacer 3 Link to comment
Shivaji bhonsle Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Other than Rahane, its a good team imo. I don't know why people don't want Shami..!! He is more economical than Yadav, Varun and Ishanth. Good selection. ! Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Other than Rahane, its a good team imo. I don't know why people don't want Shami..!! He is more economical than Yadav, Varun and Ishanth. Good selection. ! Because Shami has hardly played any cricket since world cup. He is going to be rusty and he will not magically start bowling at full pace. express bowling and diehardpacer 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Other than Rahane, its a good team imo. I don't know why people don't want Shami..!! He is more economical than Yadav, Varun and Ishanth. Good selection. ! Check Shami's IPL stat and he is the most expensive one in T20s. Also, Shami hasnt playedf anything and we dont know how he is going come about. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
Shivaji bhonsle Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Because Shami has hardly played any cricket since world cup. He is going to be rusty and he will not magically start bowling at full pace.Those who come back after a break always bowl faster. He is going to do well. Link to comment
Shivaji bhonsle Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Check Shami's IPL stat and he is the most expensive one in T20s. Also, Shami hasnt playedf anything and we dont know how he is going come about.Really? Link please. Shami is the only quality bowler we have in our hands. Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Not against giving him more chances per se. We play so many JAMODIs. Could easily give him a few games there. Just against getting him to play an ICC tournament for practice. Also, he has been consistently crap in tests as well. He has played what, 10 tests? Could give him a few more against the weaker sides and see how he goes maybe.Aaron has played only 9 test matches over a period of 5 years. He has had a start stop career so far because of injuries and whenever he has made a comeback, he has never got a consistent run. One match he plays and the next match he is dropped. We should judge him once he plays some matches consistently. He has shown improvement in the test matches he has played recently. He has a lot of potential and Indian fast bowlers be it Srinath or Zaheer have all taken a long time to develop into good bowlers. diehardpacer, Ironhide, express bowling and 1 other 4 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 how is one going to improve if he does not play. Most fast bowlers can be erratic in their early career. He has barely played 9 ODIs till now. 4 of them were in 2011 before his injury. So he has played 5 ODIs in last 4 years and you are judging him based on that. Look at Adam Milne. NZ still persists with him and has played 30 ODIs already without doing much just because he bowls quick, 145 plus. We here are talking about a rare breed. You cannot waste such bowlers. Let them play consistently for a period of time. We did persist with Yadav, did well in WC though he did not progress to my expectations, so, I have no problem if he is not selected in LOIs now. But now Aaron needs to be given more chances likes others.Exactly diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Unless there was a deadline to meet, I don't know what was the hurry to pick the squad. At least, they could have waited till the end of series vs SL.Now the selection of guys like Panday vs SL would mean little. Who knows he might not even get a chance to play in the 11 vs SL. Poor thinking by the selectors express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
sandeep Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Rahane over Pandey is inarguable - experience, proven T20 record make Rahane a better back-up for the top3 batting positions than Pandey. Pandya and Negi are playing as the bowling allrounder - not the worst selections for the squad. Hopefully Negi is good enough for international level. Shami's selection is also the right decision because they can always replace him if he is not fit by the time the tournament starts. I still feel Mishra missing out might hurt India in a key game - but to play him as the 2nd spinner makes Jadeja the 3rd spinner and Yuvi the 4th - that basically benches the Pandya/Negi slot and probably lightens up the batting a bit too much for the think tank's liking. Shows our lack of confidence in the middle order IMO. May end up costing India a crucial game. May not. Let's hope it doesn't. Not a dominant team, but arguably the best we can put up for sub-continent. Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli (Rahane back-up)Yuvi, Raina, DhoniPandya/Negi/Jadeja - 2 out of these 3 will play - Most likely Jadeja plays all games unless injured. Ashwin - Lock since no Mishra in the squad. Bumrah/Nehra/Shami - 2 out of these 3 will play. Maybe against Aus/Eng/NZ They might consider playing Pandya as 2nd seamer? But doubt that. express bowling and tweaker 2 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Pawan Negi? How did he come into the picture? When you already have a left arm spinner why another. How good is this Shreyas Gopal. His bowling stats don't look good. But he was making news right? Link to comment
Adi_91 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 If Shami comes and plays really well, this will be a great selection. Else, MS will have lot to ponder on.Pandey is unlucky. Though Rahane isn't bad, Pandey couldhave been tried. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Really? Link please. Shami is the only quality bowler we have in our hands. I already posted links in this thread. Shami averages 43 in IPL, 13 wickets in 23 matches. ER at about 9. Aaron 29 wickets in 28 matches at an average of 21 and ER of 8.54. Umesh too has decent record. Don't know what conceded Shami should be a certainty in t20 without proving anything in the format. Bk has been far better. diehardpacer 1 Link to comment
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