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Batting first, scoring a huge total and dismissing the opposition for atleast 50 runs less...is our best chance of practically nullifying the NRR disadvantage.

Looks remote to me. :((

If we win by a fair margin in the remaining games, I think we should still be fine.

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I think we should support good cricket. Hopefully the most entertaining teams, along with those that get their strategies and selection right, will be the last four 

There is no point in hoping for a donkey to run like a horse :deadhorse:  .... Let the team show it can run hard too in this competition. Past records don't matter much 

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I think we should support good cricket. Hopefully the most entertaining teams, along with those that get their strategies and selection right, will be the last four 

There is no point in hoping for a donkey to run like a horse :deadhorse:  .... Let the team show it can run hard too in this competition. Past records don't matter much 

We need to accept reality. If the team fails to make it past this stage, then we would have simply botched up a brilliant chance to win a World Cup, much like in 2007.

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We need to accept reality. If the team fails to make it past this stage, then we would have simply botched up a brilliant chance to win a World Cup, much like in 2007

Remember that strong teams on paper have not usually won the WT20 .... Let Ind show that it can bounce back first. It has 3 games in its hands 

On the other hand, It is frustrating  to see the same 11 play no matter not. And guys like Panday and Mishra not even in the squad

 

 

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Remember that strong teams on paper have not usually won the WT20 .... Let Ind show that it can bounce back first. It has 3 games in its hands 

On the other hand, It is frustrating  to see the same 11 play no matter not. And guys like Panday and Mishra not even in the squad

 

 

Home teams have especially done well in World Cups held at home. From 2011, home teams have won too. India in 2011 and Aus in 2015 for example. That is why, it will be bitter pill to swallow if we don't go further. But then, in WT20, it is not necessarily true though.

I completely agree, Pandey deserved a look in. Mishra would have been effective too.

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Remember that strong teams on paper have not usually won the WT20 .... Let Ind show that it can bounce back first. It has 3 games in its hands 

On the other hand, It is frustrating  to see the same 11 play no matter not. And guys like Panday and Mishra not even in the squad

 

 

Its amazing of ICF that how guys change their mood. Its okay that Pandey scored Century in last match of Australia tour, but some time ago, everybody here was writing him off as a 'hack' and now out of nowhere, he is supposed to be best batsman in middle order. Yuvi isn't doing that bad now, he is certainly getting his rhythm back. Give him chance at no.4, he will do good. Its Raina who is struggling big time. Haven't seen a big innings from him barring that in last T20 against Aussies. Also Mishra is not a big match player. He always struggles in crunch situations. Attack him a bit initially and he will be on low confidence through out the match. I would have liked if Indians unleashed Kuldeep Yadav in this tournament. He would have given some novelty to Indian attack just like Bumrah did and teams would have taken time to adjust to his chinamen. Mishra comes, performs for 2-3 matches and then again becomes average. He doesn't seem to be long term option. We should invest in youngsters.

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Home teams have especially done well in World Cups held at home. From 2011, home teams have won too. India in 2011 and Aus in 2015 for example. That is why, it will be bitter pill to swallow if we don't go further. But then, in WT20, it is not necessarily true though.

I completely agree, Pandey deserved a look in. Mishra would have been effective too.

Pandey and Mishra were a must. Pandey has played some really awesome match winning knocks in this format. Mishra is match winning t20 bowler. But our selectors and captain don't know jack shit.

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Pandey and Mishra were a must. Pandey has played some really awesome match winning knocks in this format. Mishra is match winning t20 bowler. But our selectors and captain don't know jack shit.

Not sure about selectors but Dhoni knows exactly what team he needs... And that's where the problem is... Jis pe uska dil aa Gaya... He backs him to the hilt till he's forced to drop him... Team selection, strategy etc Gaya tel lene...

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Leg spinners are able to pick alot of wickets in this WC (Afridi, Rashid). India missing Mishra here big time. He can replace Jadeja .

You must be joking... Jaddu will play whether team goes to next round or not... Dhoni hates Leg Spinners and especially Mishra...

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Other scenario

Aus 3 wins - NZ, Pak and BD

Ind 3 wins - Pak, BD and Aus

Pak 2 wins - BD and NZ

NZ 2 wins - Ind and BD

This seems the most logical

 

So Aus and NZ is crucial. We are hoping for Aus to win but NZ already beat us so why not hope for NZ to win all 4 games and pakis to beat Aus and we beat all 3?

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This seems the most logical

 

So Aus and NZ is crucial. We are hoping for Aus to win but NZ already beat us so why not hope for NZ to win all 4 games and pakis to beat Aus and we beat all 3?

Aus vs NZ is at Dharamsala where pitch may assist the seamers. Kiwis start as favorites in that match.

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Its amazing of ICF that how guys change their mood. Its okay that Pandey scored Century in last match of Australia tour, but some time ago, everybody here was writing him off as a 'hack' and now out of nowhere, he is supposed to be best batsman in middle order. Yuvi isn't doing that bad now, he is certainly getting his rhythm back. Give him chance at no.4, he will do good. Its Raina who is struggling big time. Haven't seen a big innings from him barring that in last T20 against Aussies. Also Mishra is not a big match player. He always struggles in crunch situations. Attack him a bit initially and he will be on low confidence through out the match. I would have liked if Indians unleashed Kuldeep Yadav in this tournament. He would have given some novelty to Indian attack just like Bumrah did and teams would have taken time to adjust to his chinamen. Mishra comes, performs for 2-3 matches and then again becomes average. He doesn't seem to be long term option. We should invest in youngsters.

It shows that people are flexible and value current form

The discussion is not about whether Panday is a heck. It is about having players who are in form and in high confidence in squad. If Panday does not perform, replace him too. No one is saying, he is the answer to Ind' problems. What is the point in not having inform players who are high in confidence in squad for a major tourney? 

Yuvi and Raina are already in the squad and getting opportunities. Hopefully, they will step up and not be content with scoring 10-20 runs. Both of them wasted opportunity in the last game

Yeah, Kuldeep is a good option too. 

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Ind should also stop complaining about pitches. In BD, we complained that pitches were such that they did not get practise. You guys could not even do much on surfaces you have practise playing on and vs a team that has little practise.

NZ came to Ind w/o practising on turners but had the sense of playing the right players for the conditions. Thanks NZ for the lesson to our team management which they would have not learned.

Some of these guys act as if they are doing favors by walking on to the field. And that the conditions have to adjust as per the playing 11 we want to play! 

It's like we want to play this 11. If you want us to do well, give us the conditions that we love. If not, we will perform disasterously. Thank you for following us so passionately! 

 

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In the current squad, do we even have a X factor player as a batsman? Other than Pandya ofcourse?

I am afraid no. Today's match between WI and Eng showed that even England has big hitters which we don't. Can't rely on MSD and Pandya every match to give the final push when we bat first and setting up a total.

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Since the next games are at Kol, B'lore and Mohali, the team would perform better. The question is would it be good enough to get it in to the SF? 

 

Simple strategy, make Pak chase a big total and win by a big margin/ at least win.

Bat first against Bangladesh and bat them out of the contest and win big.

Beat Aus in Mohali in a spinner helpful track.

Easier said than done maybe, but this should be the roadmap to qualify.

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