So many Tall players in West Indies?

[Vilander 7,419]

With the 6'8" Mohd Irfan, right at his shoulder a foot lesser the lot of them...

 

 

 

[rkt.india 11,912]

On 4/9/2016 at 2:36 AM, Vilander said:

Gul has a couple of inches on Asif as well...

 

 

 

 

 

No, both are same height. about 6'1-2"

Edited April 11, 2016 by rkt.india

[rkt.india 11,912]

Mohd Irfan is 6'10" at least if not more. Steve Finn and Boyd Ranking are about 6'7-8"

[goose 1,023]

Here's what i think. Height by itself is not going to get you far. Combine it with fast twitch fibres and above average muscle mass of the Caribbean region and you have a serious advantage. So while Jamaica's population may not have a particularly tall average height, the synergy between height and muscle mass means that those that do have the height are suited for top level sport. 

[goose 1,023]

Tall height gives you long levers i.e. reach. Long levers gives you reach whilst remaining reasonably still AND ball-striking momentum (momentum = force x distance from fulcrum). In T20 when the bowler is varying his line and length in the death overs, above traits are gold. No coincidence that Yuvraj Singh, probably our best tall batsman in recent times, managed six sixes off one over.

[Vilander 7,419]

17 hours ago, rkt.india said:

No, both are same height. about 6'1-2"

do you see the diff between gul and ishant ?

 

in the about pic asif is atleast 2 inches below gul even though gul is couple of steps in front...

 

in the pic with ishant and gul Ishant atleast has 6-7 inches on gul..

 

i put gul no more than 5'11 or a weak 6, Asif is mostly 5'10" 

[Vilander 7,419]

16 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Mohd Irfan is 6'10" at least if not more. Steve Finn and Boyd Ranking are about 6'7-8"

he was measured initially at 6'8" by PCB...he does not have more than 3 inches on Ishant or Morkel in the matches they played together...no way he is more tan 6' 8-9" still riddiculously tall...esp for a pakistani..

[Vilander 7,419]

The only pick i could find.

 

 

 

I dont think Irfan has 5 inches on Ishant...Ishant is a strong 6'5" or a weak 6'6"...that puts irfan at about 6'8 or 9" max

[Vilander 7,419]

If you want to see a 6'2" guy beside a near 2 meter guy...this is how he looks.

 

http://drop.ndtv.com/albums/SPORTS/pak_india_kotla/ishant_win_kotla.jpg

 

besides we always have Dinda...

 

http://st2.cricketcountry.com/wp-content/uploads/cricket/image_20130616172533.jpg

 

[rkt.india 11,912]

6 hours ago, Vilander said:

do you see the diff between gul and ishant ?

 

in the about pic asif is atleast 2 inches below gul even though gul is couple of steps in front...

 

in the pic with ishant and gul Ishant atleast has 6-7 inches on gul..

 

i put gul no more than 5'11 or a weak 6, Asif is mostly 5'10" 

those pics are not giving right idea. Ishant is 6'6". Gul and Asif both are 6'1-2". Here is both together.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 12, 2016 by rkt.india

[express bowling 25,651]

12 hours ago, Vilander said:

The only pick i could find.

 

 

 

I dont think Irfan has 5 inches on Ishant...Ishant is a strong 6'5" or a weak 6'6"...that puts irfan at about 6'8 or 9" max

The biggest joke is Wikipedia and some other sites stating that  Ishant is 6' 4" .

 

He is  6' 6".

[Vilander 7,419]

5 hours ago, express bowling said:

The biggest joke is Wikipedia and some other sites stating that  Ishant is 6' 4" .

 

He is  6' 6".

he is probably 6'4 man the think is irfan definitely not 7'1" lol..

[express bowling 25,651]

2 minutes ago, Vilander said:

he is probably 6'4 man the think is irfan definitely not 7'1" lol..

I have seen Ishant...he is much more than 6'4"

 

I am 6'0".......he stood  way taller than me.

[Vilander 7,419]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

I have seen Ishant...he is much more than 6'4"

 

I am 6'0".......he stood  way taller than me.

ok..thats good..startling disregard for this measuring contest that India shows in general to the 'd!&k' measuring contest that pak claims with 7'1" claims is such a difference and thematic about the two countries. Ind - quietly confident and not too silly, pakistan pathological in lies and lowly in measures.

[thongale 12]

If Asif is like 6'4" that would be against his type of bowling, a bowler who is tailor made to hit pads and stumps.

[thongale 12]

On 2016-4-9 at 2:33 PM, chewy said:

yet Indians not only outdo, but thrash Pakistan in every physical attribute,

be it sport (cricket Ind 11-0 Pak) or war (India 4-0 Pak)

 

Recent South Asian Games 2016 

 

India population only 5 times bigger than Pak, yet won 15 times more gold medal  

Rank	Nation	Gold	Silver	Bronze	Total
1	India (IND)	188	90	30	308
2	Sri Lanka (SRI)	25	63	98	186
3	Pakistan (PAK)	12	37	57	106
4	Afghanistan (AFG)	7	9	19	35
5	Bangladesh (BAN)	4	15	56	75
6	Nepal (NEP)	3	23	34	60
7	Maldives (MDV)	0	2	1	3
8	Bhutan (BHU)	0	1	15	16

I was thinking what would be popluation to medals ratio between Sri Lanka and India. Inidan population is 60 times as Sri Lanka but has 7.5 times more gold medals.

[thongale 12]

On 2016-4-9 at 2:38 AM, Vilander said:

With the 6'8" Mohd Irfan, right at his shoulder a foot lesser the lot of them...

 

 

 

Akthar is 6 - 6' 1". Mohammed Irfan definietly looks 7' in that pic.

[Vilander 7,419]

5 hours ago, thongale said:

I was thinking what would be popluation to medals ratio between Sri Lanka and India. Inidan population is 60 times as Sri Lanka but has 7.5 times more gold medals.

population does not have a direct correlation to sporting ability of a country, after a critical mass of player base is attained any increase in non playing population is non contributive. But then you already now that dont you.

[Vilander 7,419]

5 hours ago, thongale said:

Akthar is 6 - 6' 1". Mohammed Irfan definietly looks 7' in that pic.

yep you can say that,  but that would put dropmal at aorund 5'10" lol, and Umar at 6'4" and Ishant at 6'10" which is not true

[thongale 12]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

population does not have a direct correlation to sporting ability of a country, after a critical mass of player base is attained any increase in non playing population is non contributive. But then you already now that dont you.

Oddly, you did not post this when India-Pakistan comparison was made, which obviously was biased towards Indian. Huh!

[thongale 12]

The issue with bowlers like Ishant, and Nuwan Zoysa from SL, and going some time back, Bruce Reid of Australia, these guys are very skinny and they look very tall. Zoyusa appears 6'8", but infact was 6'4". Reid appears 7'+, but was 6'8" in reality. Ishant may be 6' 5" or 6' 6" from what I see. But this is a guess.

[Vilander 7,419]

3 minutes ago, thongale said:

Oddly, you did not post this when India-Pakistan comparison was made, which obviously was biased towards Indian. Huh!

yes, but you see pakistan has very few medals they are a large nation hundreds of millions of people. SL is a small nation but pretty sizable population 20 mil right, its pretty neat that you have athletic tradition. Pak is just a poor underdeveloped version of India, they also seem to believe that they have some genetic superiority on India which is funny

[rkt.india 11,912]

18 hours ago, thongale said:

Akthar is 6 - 6' 1". Mohammed Irfan definietly looks 7' in that pic.

Akhtar is not 6'1". He is 5'10"-11" at best.

[rkt.india 11,912]

11 hours ago, thongale said:

The issue with bowlers like Ishant, and Nuwan Zoysa from SL, and going some time back, Bruce Reid of Australia, these guys are very skinny and they look very tall. Zoyusa appears 6'8", but infact was 6'4". Reid appears 7'+, but was 6'8" in reality. Ishant may be 6' 5" or 6' 6" from what I see. But this is a guess.

Zopysa was not thin by any means.

[thongale 12]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Akhtar is not 6'1". He is 5'10"-11" at best.

Nah, he's 6' and about. . I have shaked hands with him, and was significantly taller than me. I am 5' 9" BTW.

[thongale 12]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Zopysa was not thin by any means.

Sorry man, I think you are on the weed. If this man is not thin, then I don't know what thin means. On ly Kumar Dharmasena was thinner than this guy. That is why he was called Kumar "Pencil" Dharmasena.

 

[rkt.india 11,912]

3 hours ago, thongale said:

Sorry man, I think you are on the weed. If this man is not thin, then I don't know what thin means. On ly Kumar Dharmasena was thinner than this guy. That is why he was called Kumar "Pencil" Dharmasena.

 

This pic only confirms what I said.

[thongale 12]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

This pic only confirms what I said.

I have played with the man, in tape ball cricket. So I can extremely confidently say that you are wrong. He was rivalling Nilesh Kulkarni for being Skinny in late 90s.

[Singh bling 1,570]

On 4/13/2016 at 10:12 PM, Vilander said:

yes, but you see pakistan has very few medals they are a large nation hundreds of millions of people. SL is a small nation but pretty sizable population 20 mil right, its pretty neat that you have athletic tradition. Pak is just a poor underdeveloped version of India, they also seem to believe that they have some genetic superiority on India which is funny

Actually it is terrorism that destroyed Pakistan. In 2006 SAF they had pretty good medal tally 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_South_Asian_Games

it was 184 while India was 214, SL was 177. It is from 2006 India emerged as big winner in SAF , the support from state governments has increased substantially to sportsmen .

[express bowling 25,651]

18 minutes ago, Singh bling said:

Actually it is terrorism that destroyed Pakistan. In 2006 SAF they had pretty good medal tally 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_South_Asian_Games

it was 184 while India was 214, SL was 177. It is from 2006 India emerged as big winner in SAF , the support from state governments has increased substantially to sportsmen .

You should consider gold medals only in a competition with so few countries .   It was   118  for India,  46 for Pakistan and  37 for Sri Lanka.

[rkt.india 11,912]

13 hours ago, thongale said:

I have played with the man, in tape ball cricket. So I can extremely confidently say that you are wrong. He was rivalling Nilesh Kulkarni for being Skinny in late 90s.

Most tall young boys from SC will be thin at a young age but they fill up as they grow up. You cannot call them malnourished or thin. If Zoysa was thin, take a look at Brett Lee of 1997-99.

[Singh bling 1,570]

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

You should consider gold medals only in a competition with so few countries .   It was   118  for India,  46 for Pakistan and  37 for Sri Lanka.

46 gold is not so bad , they are now down to 12 , clearly shows how their sports is going down. 

[express bowling 25,651]

2 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Most tall young boys from SC will be thin at a young age but they fill up as they grow up. You cannot call them malnourished or thin. If Zoysa was thin, take a look at Brett Lee of 1997-99.

Zoysa was not thin after his early years. 

[Vilander 7,419]

11 hours ago, Singh bling said:

Actually it is terrorism that destroyed Pakistan. In 2006 SAF they had pretty good medal tally 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_South_Asian_Games

it was 184 while India was 214, SL was 177. It is from 2006 India emerged as big winner in SAF , the support from state governments has increased substantially to sportsmen .

no cant count medals like that.

 

a gold however lower in number is preeminent that any number of silvers and so on with bronze.

 

comparisons can only be with gold when all countries have secured some gold.

[Vilander 7,419]

On 4/14/2016 at 3:02 AM, thongale said:

Nah, he's 6' and about. . I have shaked hands with him, and was significantly taller than me. I am 5' 9" BTW.

Anecdotal, i have a colleague who is around 6 foot i have 2-3 inches on him, he has a pic that he took in UK not a clear one to compare as there could be posture issues but Akthar was clearly couple of inches shorter, but he definitely is a big guy, built like a proper athlete

[Singh bling 1,570]

How tall is Gayle?

 

Heis clearly 2-3 inches taller than Amitabh

[Vilander 7,419]

10 hours ago, Singh bling said:

How tall is Gayle?

 

Heis clearly 2-3 inches taller than Amitabh

6'2"

[Singh bling 1,570]

25 minutes ago, Vilander said:

6'2"

That makes Amitabh 5-11" which is ridiculously short for a guy who was considered 6 -3"

[rkt.india 11,912]

10 hours ago, Singh bling said:

How tall is Gayle?

 

Heis clearly 2-3 inches taller than Amitabh

Gayle is 6'4". Amitabh 6'2".

[thongale 12]

Gayle is very tall. 6'4" is very much the mark.

[thongale 12]

On 2016-4-15 at 2:11 PM, Vilander said:

Anecdotal, i have a colleague who is around 6 foot i have 2-3 inches on him, he has a pic that he took in UK not a clear one to compare as there could be posture issues but Akthar was clearly couple of inches shorter, but he definitely is a big guy, built like a proper athlete

1st person vs 3rd person.

[Vilander 7,419]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 2:08 AM, rkt.india said:

Gayle is 6'4". Amitabh 6'2".

Lol...

[Vilander 7,419]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 7:01 AM, thongale said:

1st person vs 3rd person.

I have seen the pic. Akthar is no where near 6 feet..

[Vilander 7,419]

On ‎4‎/‎16‎/‎2016 at 2:08 AM, rkt.india said:

Gayle is 6'4". Amitabh 6'2".

Amitabh is 70 right... he must have lost a few inches..its natural..there could be footwear difF here..Gayle in a boot Amitabh in flats..

[Vilander 7,419]

kP is 6 4

 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3fwSdPVnWaQ/maxresdefault.jpg

 

http://www.borehamwoodtimes.co.uk/resources/images/3889575.jpg?display=1&htype=0&type=mc3

 

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/88500548-chris-gayle-of-west-indies-shakes-hands-with-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXqCleV1%2BeGLZNm%2BkBE0WQi21CEpzZ0Zjz08EA0j3LpObtUu6xh1DeFGf6Eo%2Fk6xgjQ%3D%3D

 

 

 

Kp clearly has 2 or 3 inches on gayle

 

Here kp is wearing flats with Gayle on shoes..

 

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kevin+Pietersen+Chris+Gayle+England+Nets+Session+hXfkgT3DZXZl.jpg

 

Kp and Sharma

 

http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/kevin-pietersen-ishant-sharma-2011-8-11-12-30-10.jpg

 

Sharma has an inch on kp..who has a helmet on

 

Sharma 6 5 kp 6 4 Gayle 6 2 a weak 6 2 probably 187 cm..samy is probably a strong 6 3

[rkt.india 11,912]

KP is 6'5"

[Singh bling 1,570]

6 hours ago, Vilander said:

kP is 6 4

 

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3fwSdPVnWaQ/maxresdefault.jpg

 

http://www.borehamwoodtimes.co.uk/resources/images/3889575.jpg?display=1&htype=0&type=mc3

 

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/88500548-chris-gayle-of-west-indies-shakes-hands-with-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=X7WJLa88Cweo9HktRLaNXqCleV1%2BeGLZNm%2BkBE0WQi21CEpzZ0Zjz08EA0j3LpObtUu6xh1DeFGf6Eo%2Fk6xgjQ%3D%3D

 

 

 

Kp clearly has 2 or 3 inches on gayle

 

Here kp is wearing flats with Gayle on shoes..

 

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Kevin+Pietersen+Chris+Gayle+England+Nets+Session+hXfkgT3DZXZl.jpg

 

Kp and Sharma

 

http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/kevin-pietersen-ishant-sharma-2011-8-11-12-30-10.jpg

 

Sharma has an inch on kp..who has a helmet on

 

Sharma 6 5 kp 6 4 Gayle 6 2 a weak 6 2 probably 187 cm..samy is probably a strong 6 3

Gayle has clearly 1.5-2 inches on Yuvraj , that makes Yuvi 6 feet not 6-2"

[Singh bling 1,570]

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

KP is 6'5"

 

If KP is 6-4" Then Yuvi is no taller than 6 feet

[Vilander 7,419]

On 4/19/2016 at 6:21 AM, Singh bling said:

Gayle has clearly 1.5-2 inches on Yuvraj , that makes Yuvi 6 feet not 6-2"

Posture, yuvi seems to have a slouching posture as always. Check the full pic here.

 

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--ytSORbNXqI/U1ZW6YlRchI/AAAAAAAAxW4/Gf0Ntt27Y7k/w506-h380/Bl0a-IJCYAAJwzR.jpg

 

When they are moving they appear close...

 

http://s.ndtvimg.com/images/content/2016/jan/806/yuvraj-singh-chris-gayle.jpg?downsize=764:573&output-quality=80&output-format=jpg

 

http://www.niharonline.com/images/yuvaraj-singh-on-gayle-fastest-fifty-niharonline.JPG

 

or May be Yuvi is not 6'2" 

 

[Vilander 7,419]

On 4/19/2016 at 6:39 AM, Singh bling said:

 

If KP is 6-4" Then Yuvi is no taller than 6 feet

Now no proper info on foot wear on that pic..lets go with pics on the play grounds.

 

http://im.rediff.com/cricket/2014/apr/09kp1.jpg

 

In the above pic both are on sport shoes  and have proper straight posture, May be Kp has 2-3 inches on Yuvi max not like the pic above where it looks 5 inches...i think yuvi is a bit shorter than Gayle..but always has poor posture.