Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 According to Jayawardene, Murali, who is the highest wicket-taker in Test history with 800 scalps, tended to be "a bit stubborn" about his methods and needed cajoling from captains to employ more aggressive tactics. "Murali was a defensive bowler, but the thing is, they couldn't take him down because he had everything covered," Jayawardene said. "But I was a different captain. I wanted to attack with Murali more, and Murali only attacked when he felt he was in control of the situation, then he'll go all out on attack. But for me it was different, I wanted to use him in a different way. I wanted to create opportunities for him rather than us sitting and waiting for an opening to happen. I think Arjuna (Ranatunga) probably had the same battles with Murali, but with Arjuna, because Murali was young and he was just coming through, he probably didn't have a choice with Arjuna. But with Sanath (Jayasuriya) afterwards as well, it was quite tough for Sanath to tell Murali, 'let's have a bit of attacking mindset'. But that's something that I've always encouraged Murali to do, but we've always found a way to come to a middle ground." Full article- http://www.espncricinfo.com/srilanka/content/story/1039995.html Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 29, 2016 Author Share Posted July 29, 2016 Thats why i always loved warne over him despite of his controversy or less number of wkts and i would even prefer anil kumble n saqlain mushtaq over him. Garuda 1 Link to comment
SLICKR392 Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 If Velu has an international wicket, I would rate him over Murali. Made a career out of a fraud action. got sympathy because of his ugly looks. Garuda and velu 2 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted July 29, 2016 Share Posted July 29, 2016 30 minutes ago, SLICKR392 said: If Velu has an international wicket, I would rate him over Murali. Made a career out of a fraud action. got sympathy because of his ugly looks. His action is not fraudulent. Atleast, not anymore so than 99% of other bowlers. His action is a product of having unique, hyper-flexible wrists. Its pretty self-explanatory if one reads a scientific piece on his action. He has elbow bend in the <15 >10 degrees zone. That happens to be the range where McGrath also, strangely enough, falls,despite having a ramrod-straight looking action. Garuda and maniac 1 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 It's elementary when u R rotating ur arm with ur palm facing north while releasing the ball, it is impossible to not straighten ur arm , Murali in any era would have been called out, even present era he would've like Ajmal, he is a likable person but sure to me not a legal bowler Garuda 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Muloghonto said: His action is not fraudulent. Atleast, not anymore so than 99% of other bowlers. His action is a product of having unique, hyper-flexible wrists. Its pretty self-explanatory if one reads a scientific piece on his action. He has elbow bend in the <15 >10 degrees zone. That happens to be the range where McGrath also, strangely enough, falls,despite having a ramrod-straight looking action. Murli's bowling action got worse with time. It has nothing to do with his hyper-flexibility but intent. See his bowling videos of 90s and compare them with videos from 2000 on wards when he developed that doosra. They got considerably worse. Even in 1999 WC when Ganguly smoked him at Taunton, his action was pretty good to me but it later progressively got worse as he developed doosra. I didn't really have any problem with his action in 90s. Here is a video of 1995. His action looks pretty clean from naked eyes here. Now compare it to this video from 2006. Edited July 30, 2016 by rkt.india Garuda 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 He clearly chucked , there is no ifs n buts Garuda 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 53 minutes ago, MCcricket said: He clearly chucked , there is no ifs n buts I would say he was pretty clean in early part of his career in the 90s. When he was called for chucking in Australia, he looked okay but most of his success came in late 90s and 2000s and that's when his action got worse and he chucked blatantly. Garuda and tweaker 2 Link to comment
velu Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 What is lady jayas record as a test captain ? Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, velu said: What is lady jayas record as a test captain ? Test Matches -- Captained 38 . Won 18. Lost 12. Draws 8 Edited July 30, 2016 by express bowling Garuda 1 Link to comment
velu Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Test Matches -- Captained 38 . Won 18. Lost 12. Draws 8 Not bad Garuda 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 7 minutes ago, velu said: Not bad Yes...quite good. Quite a bit of that must be courtesy Murali Garuda 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 4 hours ago, MCcricket said: He clearly chucked , there is no ifs n buts Sorry, science proves you wrong. 3 hours ago, rkt.india said: I would say he was pretty clean in early part of his career in the 90s. When he was called for chucking in Australia, he looked okay but most of his success came in late 90s and 2000s and that's when his action got worse and he chucked blatantly. Naked eye test/how one looks bowling on naked eyes is irrelevant to who chucks and who doesnt. As i noted, Murali and McGrath have the same flexion of the elbow. Garuda 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 http://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/muttiah-muralitharan-responds-chucking-accusation-sri-lanka Quite clearly visually n scientifically he chucks Garuda 1 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 29 minutes ago, MCcricket said: http://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/muttiah-muralitharan-responds-chucking-accusation-sri-lanka Quite clearly visually n scientifically he chucks false. Scientifically, he has been cleared many times. Visually, does not matter. The idea of judging a 3d action from a 2d screen (tv) is as stupid as it gets, really. Link to comment
MCcricket Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 8 hours ago, Muloghonto said: false. Scientifically, he has been cleared many times. Visually, does not matter. The idea of judging a 3d action from a 2d screen (tv) is as stupid as it gets, really. Ajmal n Murali R the two worst chuckers in cricket history, n their arms bent to over 25 degree min, he would straightaway be called out in this era, n was lucky that he played cricket tweaker and Garuda 2 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 8 hours ago, Muloghonto said: false. Scientifically, he has been cleared many times. Visually, does not matter. The idea of judging a 3d action from a 2d screen (tv) is as stupid as it gets, really. Ajmal n Murali R the two worst chuckers in cricket history, n their arms bent to over 25 degree min, he would straightaway be called out in this era, n was lucky that he played cricket Garuda and tweaker 2 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 Now where is the 45 degree bend gone, lol if u can see the proof , u don't wanna see the truth Garuda 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 No one can get over 800 wickets without looking to get wickets. Lady Jaya is blabbering something, unless he is strictly talking about LOIs. Garuda and tweaker 2 Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted July 30, 2016 Share Posted July 30, 2016 2 hours ago, MCcricket said: Ajmal n Murali R the two worst chuckers in cricket history, n their arms bent to over 25 degree min, he would straightaway be called out in this era, n was lucky that he played cricket Read your cricket laws. You are allowed to bowl with a crooked elbow. Chucking is changing your elbow angle, not bowling with a crooked elbow. As it happens, every bowler changes his elbow angle when delivering the ball (its biomechanics) and Murali is no worse offender than McGrath. 2 hours ago, MCcricket said: Now where is the 45 degree bend gone, lol if u can see the proof , u don't wanna see the truth A 2d image for a 3d angular view is half the story. i.e., optical illusion. As i said, its stupid to judge a 3d thing from a 2d image. Link to comment
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