randomGuy Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 ^Another shameless attempt to mix up Baluch liberation movement with some unrelated issue. 20k-25k people disappeared, most likely murdered. And shameless people like yourself mixing up irrelevant things with legit freedom struggle of Baluchistan . That's well expected. You did the same in 1971 and youu forget what happened after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Well, India has been for long asking Pakistan to respect Shimala agreement, else what is the point in coming into any agreement when you want to tear it as soon as you are off the table for a loo. Quote (a) That the two countries are resolved to settle their differences by peaceful means through bilateral negotiations or by any other peaceful means mutually agreed upon between them. Pending the final settlement of any of the problems between the two countries, neither side shall unilaterally alter the situation and both shall prevent the organization, assistance or encouragement of any acts detrimental to the maintenance of peace and harmonious relations. (b) In Jammu and Kashmir, the line of control resulting from the ceasefire of December 17, 1971, shall be respected by both sides without prejudice to the recognized position of either side. Neither side shall seek to alter it unilaterally, irrespective of mutual differences and legal interpretations. Both sides further undertake to refrain from the threat or the use of force in violation of this line. Case a: India has a grievance that Baluchs are being systematically killed by Lohori administered Pakistan and treated as second class citizen. Just like Bangladesh, not everyone is happy to accept Lahori rule. India can have a humanitarian military intervention case if situation deteriorates further Case b: Violation 1. Pakistan has been repeatedly raising this bilateral issue in every forum including UN. Violation 2. Pakistan went to war with India in Kargil and has NOT returned few of the annexed border posts and land which it acquired forcibly because of Kargil. Edited August 19, 2016 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 modi tried to play smart to get international attention off the Kashmir but Good for Pak bcz ind in a way surrendered their typical "our internal affair" justification over Kashmir or Any Other issue... Pak can happily accept this policy shift to demand an equal involvement of international elements to judge issues in Kashmir (where things are at worst of previous 2,3 decades) as well as Baluchistan (where things are at best of previous 2,3 decades)... (China obviously got to support Pakistan over any such issue bcz of their massive long term future stakes linked with Pak) International attention?How many countries have said a word on Kashmir that comes even close to the Pakistani narrative? And No one is interested in Kashmir.UN even dropped Kashmir from its list of disputed territories some years back. And China only has limited influence. Can you tell me how many countries can China influence againist India?This isnt some resolution that China can block by veto.Already China is facing isssues in S China Sea and E China Sea and has to deal with powerful countries in that region.It simply doesnt want India to support the opposing side in SCS. So China will do only so much that its 100bn USD annual trade with India is not jeopardised and India doesnt get involved in the SCS. Pakistan has a habit of trying to climb on others shoulder to try to big itself up.Earlier it was Arab countries then US and now China.When need arose everyone hightailed.No one is going to fight your wars. zen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 15 hours ago, Asim said: modi tried to play smart to get international attention off the Kashmir but Good for Pak bcz ind in a way surrendered their typical "our internal affair" justification over Kashmir or Any Other issue... Pak can happily accept this policy shift to demand an equal involvement of international elements to judge issues in Kashmir (where things are at worst of previous 2,3 decades) as well as Baluchistan (where things are at best of previous 2,3 decades)... (China obviously got to support Pakistan over any such issue bcz of their massive long term future stakes linked with Pak) There is close to 50 billion$ trade deficit in Indo China trade and that is in China's favour , the more China will engage with India the more trade they will loose .India will only gain from this situation as more and more Indians will only buy made in India products , so don't expect them to favour Pakistan , they may show initial support but once they will realise they are loosing important market like India they may back out. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 The Afghan President Hamid Karzai came out in support of the PM's statement on Balochistan during an interview with NewsX. chewy, velu and randomGuy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 "Pakistan has a very bad track record as far as addressing aspiration of nationalities is concerned. They learnt nothing from the defeat of 1971 and continued to practise the same policy of repression and are now targeting the Baloch nationalists," ----Bangladeshi Minister velu, randomGuy and chewy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asim Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Tibarn said: The Afghan President Hamid Karzai came out in support of the PM's statement on Balochistan during an interview with NewsX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tibarn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Asim said: Yeah forgot the ex By the way, when referring to a former state leader, for example former US president Bush, it is polite to continue to refer to them as President, so Edited August 19, 2016 by Tibarn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Even muslim countries hate pakistan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) @veluLol. Good catch. Seems all the sorrounding ones do. Bangladesh , Afganistan , Iran. Edited August 19, 2016 by gattaca velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, gattaca said: @veluLol. Good catch. Seems all the sorrounding ones do. Bangladesh , Afganistan , Iran. WTF Iranian Presstv report exposed India https://www.facebook.com/ffbd0784-5033-47ef-97b5-7cb0d61d723e http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/08/19/480774/India-Kashmir-proindependence-protests Quote Indian-controlled Kashmir’s hospital has been overwhelmed with people wounded during the crackdown on pro-independence protests by security forces. Indian troops are now conducting a house-to-house search for organizers of the demonstrations. A strict curfew and a series of communication blackouts have failed to stop six weeks of protests against Indian rule. Iranian leader Khamenehi says Kashmir oppressed http://iran-times.com/khamenehi-says-kashmir-oppressed/ Edited August 19, 2016 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: WTF Iranian Presstv report exposed India https://www.facebook.com/ffbd0784-5033-47ef-97b5-7cb0d61d723e http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/08/19/480774/India-Kashmir-proindependence-protests Iranian leader Khamenehi says Kashmir oppressed http://iran-times.com/khamenehi-says-kashmir-oppressed/ That KHamanei post is from years back.And what is new in that press tv article?LOL.Try again.May be someone will listen to the Pakistani whining on Kashmir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 11 hours ago, gattaca said: @veluLol. Good catch. Seems all the sorrounding ones do. Bangladesh , Afganistan , Iran. ofcourse they hate us. Afghans stone Chaman border gate at India’s behest, Pakistan shuts down trade, Nato supplies in response. (Poor Afghanis ..... ) Last time we stopped the trade, the rate of chicken gt Hike like 1200.rs /kg .... http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pakistan/afghans-stone-chaman-border-gate-at-indias-behest-pakistan-shuts-down-trade-nato-supplies-in-response/ Edited August 19, 2016 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 10 hours ago, gattaca said: @veluLol. Good catch. Seems all the sorrounding ones do. Bangladesh , Afganistan , Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: That KHamanei post is from years back.And what is new in that press tv article?LOL.Try again.May be someone will listen to the Pakistani whining on Kashmir. we (Pakistanis) dont need to whine for anything. we do know who have the sleepless nites these days on Kashmir. Old or new, doesnt matter. Kashmir is still a burning issue for India. what about facebook link of press tv ? ist also LOL ? fine thn. Edited August 19, 2016 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 33 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: ofcourse they hate us. Afghans stone Chaman border gate at India’s behest, Pakistan shuts down trade, Nato supplies in response. (Poor Afghanis ..... ) Last time we stopped the trade, the rate of chicken got Hike like 1200/kg .... http://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/pakistan/afghans-stone-chaman-border-gate-at-indias-behest-pakistan-shuts-down-trade-nato-supplies-in-response/ Your own poultry industry is in big crissis , think about it first. Afghans may end up finding better quality cheap chicken from world but Pakistani's won't find any takers for their chicken http://www.thepoultrysite.com/poultrynews/34300/sharp-drop-in-poultry-prices-in-pakistan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Merlyn Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 20 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: we (Pakistanis) dont need to whine for anything. we do know who have the sleepless nites these days on Kashmir. Old or new, doesnt matter. Kashmir is still a burning issue for India. what about facebook link of press tv ? ist also LOL ? fine thn. Kashmir is a issue only for Pakistani.No one else is bothered.The rona dhona of Pakistan can continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 38 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said: That is gifted by Bangladesh pm to India . They are happy India rescued from oppression of Pakistan. chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, Singh bling said: Your own poultry industry is in big crissis , think about it first. Afghans may end up finding better quality cheap chicken from world but Pakistani's won't find any takers for their chicken http://www.thepoultrysite.com/poultrynews/34300/sharp-drop-in-poultry-prices-in-pakistan/ we have agriculture/ livestock , afghanistan have not. chicken rate doesnt much matter for us. as we have other resources too .... ;) 10 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said: Kashmir is a issue only for Pakistani.No one else is bothered.The rona dhona of Pakistan can continue. as i said before. we (Pakistan) dont need to do rona dhona for anything. we are fine and we know whos bothered mostly right now, and it will continue .... Edited August 19, 2016 by KeyboardWarrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 10 hours ago, gattaca said: That is gifted by Bangladesh pm to India . They are happy India rescued from oppression of Pakistan. thats why only PM Haseena and her party workers love India .... btw Modi ji looking confused .... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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