rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 40 minutes ago, diga said: Rishabh Pant needs one full season in domestics... today was a good chance to fight it out ... ICFers should evaluate his progress after this season People are not talking about him being selected for test matches but LOIs where we need an aggressive opener. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 minute ago, rkt.india said: People are not talking about him being selected for test matches but LOIs where we need an aggressive opener. We have Rohit, Dhawan and Rahul in ODIs. Rohit and Rahul in T20Is. Pant, when he is introduced, will perhaps come in the middle order. I hope it is not before this season of FC ends....only 5 more months for that to happen. He needs to be in our A team for the next series. tweaker 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, express bowling said: We have Rohit, Dhawan and Rahul in ODIs. Rohit and Rahul in T20Is. Pant, when he is introduced, will perhaps come in the middle order. I hope it is not before this season of FC ends....only 5 more months for that to happen. He needs to be in our A team for the next series. Rahul would be batting at 4 in ODIs. Same in T20s. Dhawan is not suitable for T20s. In ODIs too, he has been blowing hot and cold and not giving that quick start he used to give earlier. His purple patch has certainly ended. Bleed-Blue 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Rahul would be batting at 4 in ODIs. Same in T20s. Dhawan is not suitable for T20s. In ODIs too, he has been blowing hot and cold and not giving that quick start he used to give earlier. His purple patch has certainly ended. Rahul is batting at No. 4 because the team management wants to play Dhawan and Rahane. If both are absent, Rahul will almost surely open. Also. we don't know how Pant is against the really quick ball and the swinging ball. So. it is safer for him to start in the middle-order to check how he fares. Edited October 22, 2016 by express bowling Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, express bowling said: Rahul is batting at No. 4 because the team management wants to play Dhawan and Rahane. If both are absent, Rahul will almost surely open. Also. we don't know how Pant is against the really quick ball and the swinging ball. So. it is safer for him to start in the middle-order to check how he fares. He did show in IPL that he can play quicks. Regarding swing, i dont think there is any batsman in the world who does not struggle when ball swings in ODIs. Also, Rahul batting at 4 is good for us. We have not found replace of Yuvraj at 4 and I believe Rahul should stay at 4. It gives us better depth and someone who can consolidate too if top order wickets fall and accelerate when needed. Edited October 22, 2016 by rkt.india Bleed-Blue 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He did show he can play quicks. Regarding swing, i dont think there is any batsman in the world who does not struggle when ball swings in ODIs. Where ? In the IPL ? Who are the pacers he played well there ? I remember the Fizz, but he is fast-medium. Some play swing better than others. We already have Rohit and Dhawan who are very susceptible against the swinging ball. Edited October 22, 2016 by express bowling Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, express bowling said: Where ? In the IPL ? Some play swing better than others. We already have Rohit and Dhawan who are very susceptible against the swinging ball. Also, Rahul batting at 4 is good for us. We have not found replacement of Yuvraj at 4 and I believe Rahul should stay at 4. It gives us better depth and someone who can consolidate too if top order wickets fall and accelerate when needed. Edited October 22, 2016 by rkt.india Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 8 minutes ago, express bowling said: I remember the Fizz, but he is fast-medium. But fizz is one of the toughest bowlers to attack. He is deceptive. He bowls quicker than you would think and then suddenly slower the pace down. Pant Just manhandled him in that game. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) 47 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Also, Rahul batting at 4 is good for us. We have not found replacement of Yuvraj at 4 and I believe Rahul should stay at 4. It gives us better depth and someone who can consolidate too if top order wickets fall and accelerate when needed. Personally, I prefer Rahul in the middle order too. He is a good batsman who can hit the big shots too and would make our batting line-up stronger batting at 4. May take up the slogger's role if he manages to stay till the 40th over. But, looking at how team managements work, not sure that would happen if Dhawan and Rahane are not playing. 37 minutes ago, rkt.india said: But fizz is one of the toughest bowlers to attack. He is deceptive. He bowls quicker than you would think and then suddenly slower the pace down. Pant Just manhandled him in that game. That showcases Pant's special ability as a batsman. Playing genuine quicks is a matter of practice also. Does he have access to bowling machines ? Edited October 22, 2016 by express bowling Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Personally, I prefer Rahul in the middle order too. He is a good batsman who can hit the big shots too and would make our batting line-up stronger bating at 4. May take up the sloggers role if he manages to stay till the 40th over. But, looking at how team managements work, mot sure that would happen if Dhawan and Rahane are not playing. But if Pant is selected by next season, he will be opening and not Rahul. Pant will open for Delhi too in limited overs. Probably Dhoni might retire after CT next year. Dont see him playing till 2019 WC. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, rkt.india said: But fizz is one of the toughest bowlers to attack. He is deceptive. He bowls quicker than you would think and then suddenly slower the pace down. Pant Just manhandled him in that game. Another issue is....a really young batsman, with very little FC experience, is better off starting his career in the middle order in LOIs. The ball hurries the batsman a little less, there is less movement generally and he has a chance to see how the pitch is behaving. That way, he can acclimatize to international pace easier. Link to comment
Bleed-Blue Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 Mukund 100 again Link to comment
rkt.india Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Another issue is....a really young batsman, with very little FC experience, is better off starting his career in the middle order in LOIs. The ball hurries the batsman a little less, there is less movement generally and he has a chance to see how the pitch is behaving. That way, he can acclimatize to international pace easier. yeah but that is where IPL experience next year will come in handy. He should open for DD next IPL for exposure against top quality pacers. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Probably Dhoni might retire after CT next year. Dont see him playing till 2019 WC. Hope that is the case. Dhoni was highly dependent on hand-eye co-ordination for his success as a batsman and there is a chance that his reflexes have slowed down. What will happen by 2019, nobody can say. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, rkt.india said: yeah but that is where IPL experience next year will come in handy. He should open for DD next IPL for exposure against top quality pacers. That he should. Link to comment
express bowling Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 24 minutes ago, Bleed-Blue said: Mukund 100 again Good. He looks like a test prospect and a big Ranji season will improve his chances of getting selected in the national team. Mosher and Forever Indian 2 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Mukund to me is more ready then ever n better option then Dhawan n Gambhir express bowling 1 Link to comment
tweaker Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Pant should be judjed after 2 season of domestic cricket as he has to increasehis match awareness.Today he hit his 1st ball for 6 but he fell soon after. express bowling 1 Link to comment
Forever Indian Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, express bowling said: Good. He looks like a test prospect and a big Ranji season will improve his chances of getting selected in the national team. We badly need a solid leftie in tests! express bowling 1 Link to comment
Sooda Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Pankaj Singh is outbowling his Rajasthan pace bowling colleagues. He was treated a bit unfairly, should have made a few more test squads tweaker 1 Link to comment
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