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13 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Bhuvi for Shami as Shami looks tired. If he looks all right then, Bhuvi for Umesh.

 

That is the only change I will make. Also, will make Jayant bat ahead of Jadeja and Saha, so the message is clear for both Saha and Jadeja that they to put price on their wicket. 

jayant can even bat at 6 at times...bats at 4 or 5 for Haryana. but, he can be a solid 7.

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1 minute ago, Vijy said:

jayant can even bat at 6 at times...bats at 4 or 5 for Haryana. but, he can be a solid 7.

Ya but Ashwin is all right for six for now. Our team is looking seriously good with the bat, even though we have underperformed in this series so far. We will be having a strong batting line up in test under Kohli and yet have option of having extra bowling. Kohli is taking the team in the right direction.

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4 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Ya but Ashwin is all right for six for now. Our team is looking seriously good with the bat, even though we have underperformed in this series so far. We will be having a strong batting line up in test under Kohli and yet have option of having extra bowling. Kohli is taking the team in the right direction.

India has rarely posted 500+ totals these days. With just 5 batsmen, we're capable of getting 400s at best and <200 (as almost happened today) at worst.

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9 minutes ago, Vijy said:

India has rarely posted 500+ totals these days. With just 5 batsmen, we're capable of getting 400s at best and <200 (as almost happened today) at worst.

Yeah buit the wickets have been easy to bat, not very docile. It will take time and not every day you can expect 500 runs. 

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Bhuvi for Ishant, Chahal for Amit Mishra. Kuldeep turns it away from left-handers so can only replace Jayant Yadav but I think he has done well with his limited opportunities (would have been an absolute rock star if only the bail had moved!)

 

Gambhir should be replaced as well but by whom? Don't want Dhawan back unless he scores big in domestic. Are guys like Mandeep good enough? Unfortunately, Rahul does not inspire confidence until he reaches 20 and Vijay has been losing the plot after first test of a series! But I guess those two deserve a long rope based on potential and overall performance respectively. So may be include Mukund or Herwadkar to replace Gambhir?

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4 hours ago, tweaker said:

Gambhir should be dropped & maybe Kuldeep can be selected in his place

Unlikely they will take Kuldeep, although they may drop Gam.

1 minute ago, Samcric said:

Bhuvi for Ishant, Chahal for Amit Mishra. Kuldeep turns it away from left-handers so can only replace Jayant Yadav but I think he has done well with his limited opportunities (would have been an absolute rock star if only the bail had moved!)

 

Gambhir should be replaced as well but by whom? Don't want Dhawan back unless he scores big in domestic. Are guys like Mandeep good enough? Unfortunately, Rahul does not inspire confidence until he reaches 20 and Vijay has been losing the plot after first test of a series! But I guess those two deserve a long rope based on potential and overall performance respectively. So may be include Mukund or Herwadkar to replace Gambhir?

Mukund is the better choice, although I think Herwadkar (and Khajuria) has a lot more long-term potential.

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6 hours ago, tweaker said:

Pankaj Singh should be given 1 more oppurtunity to play a test series

Shami / Yadav can be rested for some test

Agreed, he has again been picking wickets in this years Ranji, deserves one chance at home, not likely to happen though, my guess is that the selectors feel Ishant offers the same attributes at better pace and more experience.

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2 minutes ago, speedster said:

Agreed, he has again been picking wickets in this years Ranji, deserves one chance at home, not likely to happen though, my guess is that the selectors feel Ishant offers the same attributes at better pace and more experience.

Playing Ishant would be a step backwards.

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2 minutes ago, speedster said:

I agree with you, however he seems to be more in the scheme of things than Pankaj

Well, that's true from the team management perspective. Although Shami and Umesh have not bowled badly, they don't have many wkts to show for it either. Hence, it would be nice if BK could be played instead... yes, I know that he'll be quite ineffective on tracks that don't assist him, but Mohali may have a bit. And, he's a pretty solid lower-order bat too.

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Pankaj Singh was bowling like a dream in this year's Duleep trophy.

 

I have never seen him bowl with this much intensity.

 

Bowling to a plan. very accurate and at the batsmen all the time, sharp pace, bowling good bouncers, getting outswing. he was picking wickets regularly and injured Mukund with a bouncer.

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9 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Pankaj Singh was bowling like a dream in this year's Duleep trophy.

 

I have never seen him bowl with this much intensity.

 

Bowling to a plan. very accurate and at the batsmen all the time, sharp pace, bowling good bouncers, getting outswing. he was picking wickets regularly and injured Mukund with a bouncer.

I wonder how he will stack up against Eng though... there's a gap between domestic and int'l teams, and he does not have very happy memories of playing against Eng.

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Just now, express bowling said:

 

He looked like a better bowler now than on that last tour to England.  

Good for him, but I don't think selectors will pick him realistcally speaking.

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20 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Pankaj Singh was bowling like a dream in this year's Duleep trophy.

 

I have never seen him bowl with this much intensity.

 

Bowling to a plan. very accurate and at the batsmen all the time, sharp pace, bowling good bouncers, getting outswing. he was picking wickets regularly and injured Mukund with a bouncer.

He's been unlucky, he tried hard even in England, there were catches dropped off him that might have made a difference and added to his confidence. 

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9 minutes ago, speedster said:

He's been unlucky, he tried hard even in England, there were catches dropped off him that might have made a difference and added to his confidence. 

Yes, but dropped catches are common... look at poor Srinath. Point is that, at least in Eng, he struck me as less than int'l class. But, people say he's improved a fair amount since then.

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1 minute ago, Vijy said:

Yes, but dropped catches are common... look at poor Srinath. Point is that, at least in Eng, he struck me as less than int'l class. But, people say he's improved a fair amount since then.

I hope so, he certainly has been amongst the wickets in the Ranji matches as well and deserves a chance

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3 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Same team, Same 11 for me for the rest of the series, unless somebody is injured.

Go easy. It is a 5 match test series, not One day series. Players might not be injured but still need to be rested. Especially Shami. We don't need to wait for them to be injured. Shami looks weak. If India wins 3rd test, we should rest him for 4th.

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8 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

Go easy. It is a 5 match test series, not One day series. Players might not be injured but still need to be rested. Especially Shami. We don't need to wait for them to be injured. Shami looks weak. If India wins 3rd test, we should rest him for 4th.

No, this is a game for men.  If they can't survive a 4 test series (we have some changes in 11 for this test), they might as well play ODIs/T20s.  If we go 3-0 going into the 5th test, maybe Mishra for Jadoo (ET) .

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6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

No, this is a game for men.  If they can't survive a 4 test series (we have some changes in 11 for this test), they might as well play ODIs/T20s.  If we go 3-0 going into the 5th test, maybe Mishra for Jadoo (ET) .

That we all know, but we have to be smart in today's Cricketing world. How many test series do we play which are 5 match series? This is first in a long long time. England and Aussies who work more on fitness than us rotate for a reason.

 

Go to a car service station and he will offer you tire Rotation, for the longevity of your car wheels. We often ignore it but sometimes we do get it done, because it seriously helps in the longevity of the tires. This is same thing. Shami needs to be rotated for him to last long and for crucial ties.

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

That we all know, but we have to be smart in today's Cricketing world. How many test series do we play which are 5 match series? This is first in a long long time. England and Aussies who work more on fitness than us rotate for a reason.

 

Go to a car service station and he will offer you tire Rotation, for the longevity of your car wheels. We often ignore it but sometimes we do get it done, because it seriously helps in the longevity of the tires. This is same thing. Shami needs to be rotated for him to last long and for crucial ties.

 

 

 

 

Shami was already rested in ODIs before and he may be rested in the LOI part of the England tour as well. The workload for pacers is not that much in India as it is away. Hopefully he can handle the remaining 3 Tests.

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3 minutes ago, Texan said:

Shami was already rested in ODIs before and he may be rested in the LOI part of the England tour as well. The workload for pacers is not that much in India as it is away. Hopefully he can handle the remaining 3 Tests.

I hope so too. I just do remember from the first test that he gave the ball to Kohli and left in the middle of the over holding his hamstring. Yesterday too, he looked little weird at times. But if is fit, you never know. Kumble is the best judge. Leave it to him.

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On 11/21/2016 at 2:49 AM, Cricketics said:

I hope so too. I just do remember from the first test that he gave the ball to Kohli and left in the middle of the over holding his hamstring. Yesterday too, he looked little weird at times. But if is fit, you never know. Kumble is the best judge. Leave it to him.

If Ind can wrap up series in 4th Test, he should be rested for the 5th.

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