CPEC has ZERO economic viability, its a massive cost. Is the purpose something else?

[narenpande1]

47 minutes ago, Asim said:

and how the heck you expect Pakistanis to give YOU the answers and clarifications about PAK policies with China?

you can keep asking + keep celebrating how Pakistanis are not giving or unable to give ;) you the ans

and btw its you (ind) who give us 24 hrs bhashan about 'INTERNAL AFFAIRS' right?

 

Actually..even your govt cannot. 

 

When as a nation you are constantly caught with your pants down....you lose all shame which is what Pak is about.

[randomGuy]

As mentioned on the first page Itself, people who name their missiles after those who raped and murdered their direct ancestors have no shame to begin with.

[narenpande1]

7 minutes ago, randomGuy said:

As mentioned on the first page Itself, people who name their missiles after those who raped and murdered their direct ancestors have no shame to begin with.

 

Yes being shameless, without an iota of pride or dignity is part of their national character. These are the same thugs

that shielded OBL near their army cantonment, and pretended to fight " war on terror" for the world.

 

I have even some of their most erudite scholars educated in the west with this mindset. 

 

The 2 people currently living in Pak and who expose Pak for what it is, are Hassan Nissar and Pervez Hoodbhoy.

 

 

[mishra]

1 hour ago, narenpande1 said:

 

Actually..even your govt cannot. 

 

When as a nation you are constantly caught with your pants down....you lose all shame which is what Pak is about.

Dont worry, Its just a matter of time when Trucks coming to Gwador port wont be going empty on return trip. Onvce route is opened there is absolutely no going back for China.

This is what Hillary said to Pak.

"It's like that old story - you can't keep snakes in your backyard and expect them only to bite your neighbours. Eventually those snakes are going to turn on whoever has them in the backyard, "

For the time being China has facilitated a bigger backyard. Its win win situation for Pakistan

Edited December 2, 2016 by mishra

[Asim]

3 hours ago, narenpande1 said:

 

Actually..even your govt cannot. 

 

When as a nation you are constantly caught with your pants down....you lose all shame which is what Pak is about.

 

2 hours ago, narenpande1 said:

 

Yes being shameless, without an iota of pride or dignity is part of their national character. These are the same thugs

that shielded OBL near their army cantonment, and pretended to fight " war on terror" for the world.

 

I have even some of their most erudite scholars educated in the west with this mindset. 

 

The 2 people currently living in Pak and who expose Pak for what it is, are Hassan Nissar and Pervez Hoodbhoy.

 

 

Pak, Pak people, Pak system, Pak govt, Pak education... Pak Pak...

chalo aj ka khana hazam ho jaey ga, ab baqi kal, OK?

[Vilander]

On 11/30/2016 at 6:31 AM, panther said:

That's all irrelevent Pakistan is not going to realign itself with India again, Pakistanis are brainwashed now it's too late, and Indians don't want pakistan to join back with india, No way you guys would accept 200 mil muslims added to your country. 

if you do and if BD joins in too, you would have 500 million Mulsims in un divided India and some 900 Mil Hindus, not long before a mulsim majority south asian super state.  May be leader of muslim world, lots of Hindu genocide probably too.

[narenpande1]

45 minutes ago, Vilander said:

if you do and if BD joins in too, you would have 500 million Mulsims in un divided India and some 900 Mil Hindus, not long before a mulsim majority south asian super state.  May be leader of muslim world, lots of Hindu genocide probably too.

Recipe for civil war.

 

We hate Gandhi and Nehru for acceding to  the partitioning of India. 

 

But it was a great thing in hindsight. 

 

The only extremist Islamic elements were weeded out due to partition. It was good that they were excluded from the union of Secular India 

 

They can now wallow in their misery, and find master after master till disintegration of Pak continues.

 

Pak mindset as a nation has always been to find a master and milk then for charity by monetizing their geostrategic relevance.

 

they literally lie down naked to fulfill Agendas of other countries for some dollars - like no other self respecting sovereign nation would. First America, then China. 

 

This is is akin to prostititute who would open up her body to be  used for anything provided there is " good  payment"  for it

[chewy]

Any CPEC construction in PoK should be blown up, will be built on illegal territory, illegally occupied by Pakistani invaders.

[Malcolm Merlyn]

The North South Transport corridor starts functioning.Joining Central Asia/Russia via Azerbaijan,Iran to India and rest of Asia.

[mishra]

Chinese will close CPEC once Pakistanis start infiltrating there too. Which they would as soon as they realise China is a richer place

[panther]

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

if you do and if BD joins in too, you would have 500 million Mulsims in un divided India and some 900 Mil Hindus, not long before a mulsim majority south asian super state.  May be leader of muslim world, lots of Hindu genocide probably too.

South asians can not be leaders of the muslim world, they never have been some scholars don't even accept ottoman rule as legitimate as leadership of the Ummah is reserved for Quresh(Prophet tribe) only. 

Edited December 2, 2016 by panther

[Muloghonto]

21 minutes ago, panther said:

South asians can not be leaders of the muslim world, they never have been some scholars don't even accept ottoman rule as legitimate as leadership of the Ummah is reserved for Quresh(Prophet tribe) only. 

Lol. That is 'shia talk' from a Sunni.

The Imam of Mecca accepted the Ottomans as Caliph. So what you and others say, don't matter. 

[panther]

13 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

Lol. That is 'shia talk' from a Sunni.

The Imam of Mecca accepted the Ottomans as Caliph. So what you and others say, don't matter. 

No there were legit scholars who said Khilafa is only for quresh, but there were others who disagreed so the matter is not black and white. 

 

https://www.deoband.org/2010/07/general/politics/is-it-a-condition-for-the-imam-to-be-from-quraysh/

 

 

[Muloghonto]

Just now, panther said:

No there were legit scholars who said Khilafa is only for quresh, but there were others who disagreed so the matter is not black and white. 

 

https://www.deoband.org/2010/07/general/politics/is-it-a-condition-for-the-imam-to-be-from-quraysh/

 

 

These scholars are overriden by the Imam of Mecca. If Mecca accepts a Khalif, the ummah officially accepts a Khalif. What these scholars are, are fringe theorists.

Oh and btw, those who agree that Khalif is from Quraysh are parroting the Shia line. Shias don't just think that the first 5 Khalifs are evil and Ali should've been Khalif, they are the ones who invented the idea that Khalif should be a Quraysh.

 

[Malcolm Merlyn]

46 minutes ago, panther said:

South asians can not be leaders of the muslim world, they never have been some scholars don't even accept ottoman rule as legitimate as leadership of the Ummah is reserved for Quresh(Prophet tribe) only. 

 

If all Muslims are equal how only Quresh can claim the right to rule? Isnt it opposite of what the teachings of the Prophet(PBUH) say.

[Muloghonto]

Btw, what happened to your claim that you only care for the Koran and not the Hadiths you made a few months ago ?

 

[panther]

6 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

These scholars are overriden by the Imam of Mecca. If Mecca accepts a Khalif, the ummah officially accepts a Khalif. What these scholars are, are fringe theorists.

Oh and btw, those who agree that Khalif is from Quraysh are parroting the Shia line. Shias don't just think that the first 5 Khalifs are evil and Ali should've been Khalif, they are the ones who invented the idea that Khalif should be a Quraysh.

 

you must be mistaking me for someone else. 

[panther]

6 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

If all Muslims are equal how only Quresh can claim the right to rule? Isnt it opposite of what the teachings of the Prophet(PBUH) say.

How can we reconcile between the words of the Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), “You must hear and obey, even if an Abyssinian slave is appointed as ruler over you,” and his words, “The rulers are to be from Quraysh”? Is it possible or permissible for an Abyssinian slave to attain the highest position of authority (caliph)?

He replied:

Yes, if Allah enables an Abyssinian slave to attain the highest position of authority (caliph), then he may attain that position. The Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) only said that with regard to situations where we have the choice. If we want to choose a ruler for the Muslims, then we should choose someone from Quraysh, but who from Quraysh?

We should choose those who uphold the faith. As for merely belonging to Quraysh, or being from the family of the Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), that is not a virtue in and of itself, unless it is accompanied by religious commitment. If a man from Quraysh comes to us and says that he is more deserving of being the ruler than anyone else, but he is an evildoer, we would say: No, because one of the conditions of being the ruler, when appointing a ruler, is that he should be of good character. But if someone subdues the people and becomes the ruler (by force), then it is obligatory to listen and obey him, even if he is an Abyssinian slave with a head like a raisin. There is a difference between the case when people have the choice and the case when someone seizes power and takes control of people by force. In the latter case we say that we should hear and obey, and not rebel, unless we see blatant kufr for which we have proof from Allah.

https://islamqa.info/en/227620

[panther]

11 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

These scholars are overriden by the Imam of Mecca. If Mecca accepts a Khalif, the ummah officially accepts a Khalif. What these scholars are, are fringe theorists.

Oh and btw, those who agree that Khalif is from Quraysh are parroting the Shia line. Shias don't just think that the first 5 Khalifs are evil and Ali should've been Khalif, they are the ones who invented the idea that Khalif should be a Quraysh.

 

wrong Shia belive only Ahlulbait can be Khalif, Quresh includes omar and abubakr no shia will ever accept them, ahlebait is family of the prophet.  

[Muloghonto]

12 minutes ago, panther said:

wrong Shia belive only Ahlulbait can be Khalif, Quresh includes omar and abubakr no shia will ever accept them, ahlebait is family of the prophet.  

That is what 'should've been'. But since Ahl Al Bayat doesnt exist anymore, the Shia position is, it SHOULD've been Ahl Al Bayat, but now, it should be Al Quraysh.