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On 12/3/2016 at 8:37 PM, narenpande1 said:

Does anyone feel that considering his immense influence, reach and the goodwill of the people of India, his contributions to the society have been negligible ?

What Tendulkar wants to do is his personal choice. Having said that, I would like him to champion the cause for a "green and clean" Ind. 

 

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Sachin doesn't owe anyone anything.....He worked his *** off to excel in what he loved......Also the fans were not forced to admire him or give him money and make him a billionaire...It so happens that someone was adored for being excellent in his profession was looked upon as a role model by his fans...neither Sachin nor his fans owe anything to each other

 

Bharat Ratna is not given to someone who does charity work only....the guy has excelled in the only sport that India cares about,inspiring a lot of youth to play that sport in the process....but if your problem is if he deserved it or not,it is a different debate.

 

Now coming to charity.....people need to stop expecting handouts from anyone...Charity is totally by choice.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, maniac said:

Radhikaji is Dravid coaching U-19 for free?

Kisne bola?.....but he is atleast involved in some way with doing something for cricket .

He was the first choice for the high paying Indian coach job....as said by  BCCI president at that time. He chose to stay with the U-19....so I am guessing ,money or fame  is not the prime motivation for him.

 

http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/rahul-dravid-anil-kumble-india-cricket-coach-bcci-anurag-thakur-2874643/

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2 minutes ago, radhika said:

Kisne bola?.....but he is atleast involved in some way with doing something for cricket .

He was the first choice for the high paying Indian coach job....as said by  BCCI president at that time. He chose to stay with the U-19....so I am guessing ,money or fame  is not the prime motivation for him.

Or May be he didn't want the high pressure job as he just can't handle the high profile attention anymore? or he couldn't take up a job that requires more time away from his family?

 

How much cricket does U-19 team play anyway compared to seniors?

 

There are different way to look at things.

 

So what else is Sachin doing these days to show that he is being motivated by fame or money? He has kept a low profile and he has done his part every time the govt. has asked him to be the face of a social cause ....he clearly gives charity, is there a template that a person should give this much % of his proceeds based on his net worth?

 

He has clearly done more than any other popular cricketer produced by India.....Kapil,Sunny,Dravid,Ganguly,Dhoni etc are not exactly papuers are they?

 

 

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31 minutes ago, radhika said:

@maniacDravid is imparting knowledge to the young crop of cricketers.He is a technically strong batsman and using it at the right place.

He is doing his bit and hope someday Tendulkar does too.Till that time ,hope he can stay away from making headlines for wrong reasons.

Its nice that Dravid is imparting knowledge on the finer nuances of batting to the youngsters. But how is that serving the country? How is he doing 'his bit' ? I do not understand that at all. How is he helping the country anymore than Swastik mechanic opposite the race course who fixes flat tyres?

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8 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Its nice that Dravid is imparting knowledge on the finer nuances of batting to the youngsters. But how is that serving the country? How is he doing 'his bit' ? I do not understand that at all. How is he helping the country anymore than Swastik mechanic opposite the race course who fixes flat tyres?

If you read my first post...don't expect other things but did expect him to give back to Indian cricket in some form.

And probably give up the RS seat if not interested.There may be more like Mary Kom who want to be more involved.People like Rekha ,Tendulkar and Hema Malini make a mockery of it.

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1 minute ago, radhika said:

If you read my first post...don't expect other things but did expect him to give back to Indian cricket in some form.

And probably give up the RS seat if not interested.There may be more like Mary Kom who want to be more involved.People like Rekha ,Tendulkar and Hema Malini make a mockery of it.

How much more should he "give back" to Indian cricket? He's given Indian cricket all of his adult life and some part of his childhood too. He has raised the  popularity of cricket in India, won matches for India and enriched BCCI (and his own) coffers in the process.  If anything, Indian cricket should give "back now".

 

I agree with you on the Rajya Shabha seat, ie he paints a rather dull image by not attending the sessions. But then again he was anointed and its not something that he was craving for. These are just titular positions, just like his Air Force rank. What does one expect from him in the Rajya Sabha anyways? 

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Beyond his cricket, he is just a normal person. All the money in the world and he is not yet satiated. 

 

Again -it is India that has made him. 

 

Sachin needed India.

 

he had benefited from the economic boom in India.

 

he would not have been hyped to the clouds had he played for Lanka or Kiwis or Aus.

 

had he played for aus, his career might have ended during that tennis elbow phase with the stinging Aussie media writing his obituary many a times.

 

it is quite sad that this guy does not even have the basic gratitude or time In any meaningful way for the country that has made him.

 

he surely has all the time in the world to do what Mukesh ambani tells him. He would have the time to cheerlead Mumbai Indians in each and every match without any official role the entire IPL season. Who knows what benefit one can extract from Mukesh bhai...maybe next time he will take Mukesh ambani together to meet the defencr minister to take care of his personal financial interest and partne Sanjay Natasha.

 

But he is too big a guy to take parliament seriously or Find Time for that.

 

this is the reality of sachin tendulkar 

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5 minutes ago, narenpande1 said:

Beyond his cricket, he is just a normal person. All the money in the world and he is not yet satiated. 

 

Again -it is India that has made him. 

 

Sachin needed India.

 

he had benefited from the economic boom in India.

 

he would not have been hyped to the clouds had he played for Lanka or Kiwis or Aus.

 

had he played for aus, his career might have ended during that tennis elbow phase with the stinging Aussie media writing his obituary many a times.

 

it is quite sad that this guy does not even have the basic gratitude or time In any meaningful way for the country that has made him.

 

he surely has all the time in the world to do what Mukesh ambani tells him. He would have the time to cheerlead Mumbai Indians in each and every match without any official role the entire IPL season. Who knows what benefit one can extract from Mukesh bhai...maybe next time he will take Mukesh ambani together to meet the defencr minister to take care of his personal financial interest and partne Sanjay Natasha.

 

But he is too big a guy to take parliament seriously or Find Time for that.

 

this is the reality of sachin tendulkar 

 

More Rant.

 

Tendulkar would have been a cricketing superstar anywhere and no India didnt make him,he was that good that people became his fan.

 

He can do whatever he wishes within the laws and he doesnt need to satisfy the egos of his haters like you.Keep hating as if its going to make a difference.Because this is without any reasoning.

 

He is one the greatest cricketers and one of the greatest sportsman India has produced,thats the reality of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar.

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23 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

More Rant.

 

Tendulkar would have been a cricketing superstar anywhere and no India didnt make him,he was that good that people became his fan.

 

He can do whatever he wishes within the laws and he doesnt need to satisfy the egos of his haters like you.Keep hating as if its going to make a difference.Because this is without any reasoning.

 

He is one the greatest cricketers and one of the greatest sportsman India has produced,thats the reality of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar.

 

 

Brendon Mccullum is a cricketing superstar for NZ, so is sanath jayasuriya or muralitharan for Lanka or Glenn McGrath for Aus..they are all respective superstars for their countries.

 

but nothing beats being a super star Indian cricketer with the money and adulation.

 

that is common sense.

 

I am not " hating" ... I am just stating the Moral and social responsibility of someone who is whatever he is because of the nation.

 

of course social responsibility is always optional and not required by law.

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, narenpande1 said:

 

 

Brendon Mccullum is a cricketing superstar for NZ, so is sanath jayasuriya or muralitharan for Lanka or Glenn McGrath for Aus..they are all respective superstars for their countries.

 

but nothing beats being a super star Indian cricketer with the money and adulation.

 

that is common sense.

 

I am not " hating" ... I am just stating the Moral and social responsibility of someone who is whatever he is because of the nation.

 

of course social responsibility is always optional and not required by law.

 

 

 

 

 

His only responsibility was when he played for India.Rest he is within his rights to do whatever he wants to do.He owes nothing to anyone.

 

Sanath Jayasuriya?Brendon Mc Cullum :phehe:

 

He earned that adulation through his performance.No one gave him that on a platter.

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9 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

His only responsibility was when he played for India.Rest he is within his rights to do whatever he wants to do.He owes nothing to anyone.

 

Sanath Jayasuriya?Brendon Mc Cullum :phehe:

 

He earned that adulation through his performance.No one gave him that on a platter.

 

 

Maybe cricketing knowledge and acumen was not a criteria for making someone an administrator on ICF

 

Jayasuriya revolutionized one day cricket opening .. scored over 13000 ODI runs and picked up over 300 ODI wickets ..find me how many Indian ODI specialist bowlers picked up 300 ODI wickets. He was man of the series in the 1996 World Cup that Lanka won .. a big achievement for a tiny nation, - a cricketing baby compared to India. 

 

He may not have been a sachin tendulkar but he is a cricketing legend for sure..

 

 

Glenn McGrath has raised 10s of millions of dollars for breast cancer treatment and continues to make relentless efforts for the same  .. these are acts of people who are champions on and off the field ... 

 

clearly tendulkar is not one of them

 

rest my case

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29 minutes ago, narenpande1 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Maybe cricketing knowledge and acumen was not a criteria for making someone an administrator on ICF

 

May be no one taught you the courtesy of not getting personal while debating. Learn how to debate.

 

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Jayasuriya revolutionized one day cricket opening .. scored over 13000 ODI runs and picked up over 300 ODI wickets ..find me how many Indian ODI specialist bowlers picked up 300 ODI wickets. He was man of the series in the 1996 World Cup that Lanka won .. a big achievement for a tiny nation, - a cricketing baby compared to India. 

 

He may not have been a sachin tendulkar but he is a cricketing legend for sure..

 

The hitting in first 15 overs was started by Mark Greatbatch of NZ.Not Jayasuriya.

 

445 ODIs for 13000runs and 300wickets.Batting avg of 32 bowling avg of 37. I hope no one with such avg stats plays for India for such a long time.He was a great opener for 4-5 years.

 

Roger Binny  and Madan Lal took 18 and 17 wickets in 183 WC that India won.They are Legends?

 

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Glenn McGrath has raised 10s of millions of dollars for breast cancer treatment and continues to make relentless efforts for the same  .. these are acts of people who are champions on and off the field ... 

 

clearly tendulkar is not one of them

 

rest my case

 

Why should Tendulkar do what Mcgrath has done?Why the atitude to follow what the white guy does?Then again you have run off to a land of whites so its understood.Tendulkar doesnt advertise his charities unlike others.

 

Btw what have you done for India?Became an NRI?

 

 

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15 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

 

 

May be no one taught you the courtesy of not getting personal while debating. Learn how to debate.

 

 

The hitting in first 15 overs was started by Mark Greatbatch of NZ.Not Jayasuriya.

 

445 ODIs for 13000runs and 300wickets.Batting avg of 32 bowling avg of 37. I hope no one with such avg stats plays for India for such a long time.He was a great opener for 4-5 years.

 

Roger Binny  and Madan Lal took 18 and 17 wickets in 183 WC that India won.They are Legends?

 

 

Why should Tendulkar do what Mcgrath has done?Why the atitude to follow what the white guy does?Then again you have run off to a land of whites so its understood.Tendulkar doesnt advertise his charities unlike others.

 

Btw what have you done for India?Became an NRI?

 

 

 

 

Please talk common sense for once....and stop being a racist.

 

I am here in  the US because i have great career prospects here..like everybody else NRIs to have the right to do what is best for their career.

 

That does not make them less Indian

 

Like your hero SRT does what is best for his career...same rules apply.

 

It is not about following a " whiteman " as you racially put it. It is about gratitude to the society that has made you.

 

There are innumerable social issues in India from girl child education to wide spread unemployment to farmer suicides ..that someone with influence can address..

 

Anything  however small, he ever does is amplified a million times..so the idea of doing social work in private is a big joke...

for example, merely handing over car keys in a ceremony is portrayed as tendulkar actually " gifting" the cars..

 

 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

 

 

May be no one taught you the courtesy of not getting personal while debating. Learn how to debate.

 

 

The hitting in first 15 overs was started by Mark Greatbatch of NZ.Not Jayasuriya.

 

445 ODIs for 13000runs and 300wickets.Batting avg of 32 bowling avg of 37. I hope no one with such avg stats plays for India for such a long time.He was a great opener for 4-5 years.

 

Roger Binny  and Madan Lal took 18 and 17 wickets in 183 WC that India won.They are Legends?

 

 

Why should Tendulkar do what Mcgrath has done?Why the atitude to follow what the white guy does?Then again you have run off to a land of whites so its understood.Tendulkar doesnt advertise his charities unlike others.

 

Btw what have you done for India?Became an NRI?

 

 

 

If you are comparing Roger Binny and Madan Lal to jayasuriya you have clearly lost it ...please give up on cricket.

 

Jayasuriya was an allrounder ..a great ODI match winner. ..the second most number of man of the match awards in ODIs...you clearly don't understand cricket... LOL

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/wi/content/records/283705.html

 

He had better stats as an ODI all rounder than Kapil dev did as a test all rounder.

 

 

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2 hours ago, narenpande1 said:

Beyond his cricket, he is just a normal person. All the money in the world and he is not yet satiated. 

 

Again -it is India that has made him. 

 

Sachin needed India.

 

he had benefited from the economic boom in India.

 

he would not have been hyped to the clouds had he played for Lanka or Kiwis or Aus.

 

had he played for aus, his career might have ended during that tennis elbow phase with the stinging Aussie media writing his obituary many a times.

 

it is quite sad that this guy does not even have the basic gratitude or time In any meaningful way for the country that has made him.

 

he surely has all the time in the world to do what Mukesh ambani tells him. He would have the time to cheerlead Mumbai Indians in each and every match without any official role the entire IPL season. Who knows what benefit one can extract from Mukesh bhai...maybe next time he will take Mukesh ambani together to meet the defencr minister to take care of his personal financial interest and partne Sanjay Natasha.

 

But he is too big a guy to take parliament seriously or Find Time for that.

 

this is the reality of sachin tendulkar 

What do you mean India made him? Did people of this country vote for him to make it to the Indian side?

 

He made it because of "his talent"  "his hard work and focus"..now you might say does everyone succeed if they have talent and focus....now that becomes due to "his luck".

 

So where does he owe anyone anything?

 

What gratitude....people liked sachin on their own free will....so what gratitude?

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