Malcolm Merlyn Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Think Virat and co didnt want to bat again. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Some of you are looking at it in a wrong way. Don't forget that we are 282 ahead. Pitch still pretty good for batting. Had we declared with a 170 run lead, England would have taken their time tomorrow and scored probably 300ish by the first hour of last session and then in last hour, we could not have chased 150+ With a lead of 282, England knows whatever they put tomorrow, if they get bowled out by chance, they are surely losing this. Now we know that we are surely not batting tomorrow and England will be looking for batting practice and us for wickets only. mancalledsting, Sachinism and tweaker 3 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, Sidhoni said: Then why did he declare exactly when the milestone was achieved? Could have wanted some more runs or some more overs to bowl today. With a lead of 100-150 . Eng could have erased the lead today and set a score as well tomorrow. Now they will try to block a day and hopefully lose. Not a bad decision for 5th test of the series. If we are desparate for a win, then it makes sense to take a risk and go for win. Eng is already decimated here. mancalledsting and tweaker 2 Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Its not about how good/bad the decision is tactically. We are just pointing out that a personal milestone clearly affected his decision making when just few days ago he said they were "completely out of the system". And just for the record I support this decision of waiting for the 300. Just that Kohli should not be making claims without any substance. Edited December 19, 2016 by Sidhoni tweaker and New guy 2 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, fineleg said: rkt - It was about having 20 overs at a tired england side to get 2-3 wickets. Rather than have them "come fresher" on Day 5 with all wickets intact. Kohli should have declared. Wrong to waste time batting during last hour on day 4 We didn't have enough lead to declare 20 overs ahead. Link to comment
mishra Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Commies were clearly saying when there was 13 overs left to declare makes sense. Only thing impacting decision is Nair's tipple hundred. tweaker 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Guys Kohli's message was about the process to be followed! New guy and Cricketics 2 Link to comment
Shunya Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Kohli is a modern day player who likes to be in the limelight and looks like doing things/antics or saying things for PR just like a star from bollywood. They want to speak right stuff at right time. Fans should take such comments loosely. Reality can be very different from perception they try to create. He is a very good player and I feel will break plenty of records in upcoming years. But he is a drama queen like a bollywood star. tweaker 1 Link to comment
WeStMiDz Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 No issues giving a youngster a chance to go for a triple against a top opposition when you are 3-0 up in a series. MechEng, Cricketics, New guy and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Unnecessary discussion going on. So most people agree with Kohli and yet pointing out that his statement about milestone is wrong. Well the thing is that by his statment he meant that he won't wait a full session and kill chance of winning a game if a person is 50 runs away from a real big milestone. We needed these runs as a lead which Nair scored so we don't bat again and make England wary about conceding the game the moment they lose their 10 wickets. tweaker and raki05 2 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Cricketics said: We needed these runs as a lead which Nair scored so we don't bat again and make England wary about conceding the game the moment they lose their 10 wickets. 230 wasn't enough? What was Kohli thinking? England will score 330 and bowl out India later? tweaker 1 Link to comment
kosingh Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Nair thanks the team for giving him extra time to reach his milestone. tweaker 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Quote The message was to attack in the third session. We had a set overs to declare on, but when I got closer to 300, they pushed it back. I'm thankful to the team management. .. Nair tweaker 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: 230 wasn't enough? What was Kohli thinking? England will score 330 and bowl out India later? If England get out with one hour left in the game and have a lead of 100 runs, they can easily defend it by bowling down the leg all wides and stuff. Their bowlers can control the game and push it to Draw.But now, with 282 on board, our bowlers take the control and decide the game. Link to comment
G_B_ Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 mostly a draw series won let the kid of his memento....he batted well for it. tweaker 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 2 minutes ago, Cricketics said: If England get out with one hour left in the game and have a lead of 100 runs, they can easily defend it by bowling down the leg all wides and stuff. Their bowlers can control the game and push it to Draw.But now, with 282 on board, our bowlers take the control and decide the game. With 1 hr left means 15 overs less batting by England and for 100 runs lead they would have needed to score 330 in less than 90 overs. How many times a visiting team scores at run rate of 3.7 in 5th day while trying to save the match. So basically we were trying to avoid something which is very rare. tweaker and kosingh 2 Link to comment
BeautifulGame Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 If England get out with one hour left in the game and have a lead of 100 runs, they can easily defend it by bowling down the leg all wides and stuff. Their bowlers can control the game and push it to Draw.But now, with 282 on board, our bowlers take the control and decide the game. With 10 wickets in hand , we can easily score 100 in 15 overs even if they bowl every delivery down the leg side. Also for a scenario to arise , England need to score nearly 4 an over to reach above 320 in 2 and half sessions .Simply not possible against our spinners on a 5,the day track is simply possible. Kohli did the right thing by allowing Nair to reach his 300.Scoring 300 is such a unique achievement and reaching that would give an youngster like Nair immense self belief in future. Even Nair acknowledged in that post match interview that the declaration was delayed so that he can his 300. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: With 1 hr left means 15 overs less batting by England and for 100 runs lead they would have needed to score 330 in less than 90 overs. How many times a visiting team scores at run rate of 3.7 in 5th day while trying to save the match. So basically we were trying to avoid something which is very rare. You are forgetting to add the 85-100 runs they would have piled today had we declared right after second session. That adding to the over night score would have taken them to a safe score, where even if they had been bowled out, we would have been needing 100ish in a very less time which their bowlers would have full control on. Link to comment
Cricketics Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, BeautifulGame said: With 10 wickets in hand , we can easily score 100 in 15 overs even if they bowl every delivery down the leg side. Also for a scenario to arise , England need to score nearly 4 an over to reach above 320 in 2 and half sessions .Simply not possible against our spinners on a 5,the day track is simply possible. Kohli did the right thing by allowing Nair to reach his 300.Scoring 300 is such a unique achievement and reaching that would give an youngster like Nair immense self belief in future. Even Nair acknowledged in that post match interview that the declaration was delayed so that he can his 300. This is just hypothetical scenario which we are discussing. Idealy, England would know how long to bat as soon as they lose 5th or 6th wicket and hence,we won't have gotten the chance to even bat 12 overs may be also to chase after whatever they had put. Link to comment
Unleashed Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 People who have never played the game can't appreciate how *ing tough it is to score 300. We had the series wrapped at 3-0 so I see no issue in setting back the declaration for five overs so that a youngster could get a triple century. If the series had been at stake, then it'd have been a different matter. Masquerade 1 Link to comment
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