maniac Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) First let me take a moment to stand in awe and appreciate a fantastic effort from a young man...a 300 in his 3rd test even if this was against Bang/Zim it would have been a commendable effort leave alone one of the stronger sides in the world. Hope this innings gives him the confidence to reach greater heights and become a bigger match winner. I know timing of this thread is wrong and might get a lot of hate for this but do you really think that he is going to carry this on consistently? I am not saying he won't just my doubt. Can he sustain his form and momentum on a bouncy,green,seam-friendly,dustbowl kind of a track? Need to see more of him but yeah any one who hits a 300 is a gem and deserves his long rope but just get the feeling something is missing. Edited December 19, 2016 by maniac tweaker and Soorma_Bhopali 2 Link to comment
diga Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 you know when people throw stones at a tree filled with mangoes, atleast one will hit the target... your n-threads are a proof of that velu, sandeep, tweaker and 1 other 4 Link to comment
vijay50 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 He should atleast get as much tests Rohit played till mow based on this performance alone. Soorma_Bhopali and tweaker 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, diga said: you know when people throw stones at a tree filled with mangoes, atleast one will hit the target... your n-threads are a proof of that Did I say he will fail? All I am saying is as good a feat of making 300 is...it earns someone more time,doesn't show any prrof if he is one for the long haul....Kambli had 2 back to back 200's and a 100...now don't misquote me as I don't think from the look of it this kid is anything like Kambli-Seems a hardworking and disciplined cricketer. All I am saying is is he the next big match winner? I have my reservations on declaring anything like that. tweaker 1 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, diga said: you know when people throw stones at a tree filled with mangoes, atleast one will hit the target... your n-threads are a proof of that but this is not one of his other threads. Link to comment
diga Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 minute ago, maniac said: Did I say he will fail? All I am saying is as good a feat of making 300 is...it earns someone more time,doesn't show any prrof if he is one for the long haul....Kambli had 2 back to back 200's and a 100...now don't misquote me as I don't think from the look of it this kid is anything like Kambli-Seems a hardworking and disciplined cricketer. All I am saying is is he the next big match winner? I have my reservations on declaring anything like that. We dont know whether you are serious or not with your jinx/anti-jinx threads.. glory hunter tweaker and Sidhoni 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 Just now, diga said: We dont know whether you are serious or not with your jinx/anti-jinx threads.. glory hunter Why would I jinx a young Indian player? As I said as good as a 300 is in any circumstance,should it be a benchmark to determine how good he will be based on this circumstance in the future. tweaker 1 Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 He may struggle in Away conditions, but he needs to be given chances to learn the Away conditions. Keep sending him on A-tours to Eng, NZ, Aus, SA and perhaps if at all he can manage a county cricket chance. But he deserves a rope at least half length of the useless Rohit Sharma before judgements can be made. tweaker 1 Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) How many such potentials/possible good players for India - has Rohit Sharma's dogged selection been blocking for last some years? What is the missed opportunity to Team India due to persistent selection of a dud like Rohit Sharma? Where we havent tried others like Karun Nair (earlier) or Manish Pandey and other batsmen? Edited December 19, 2016 by fineleg beetle and tweaker 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, fineleg said: He may struggle in Away conditions, but he needs to be given chances to learn the Away conditions. Keep sending him on A-tours to Eng, NZ, Aus, SA and perhaps if at all he can manage a county cricket chance. But he deserves a rope at least half length of the useless Rohit Sharma before judgements can be made. It is the biggest misconception on ICF that going on A Tours will help you adapt to those conditions. Yes maybe the odd 150+ bowler whom they might not face in Indian domestics etc but rather Nair earn it by playing a little longer. How fast will he adapt will be interesting. tweaker 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted December 19, 2016 Author Share Posted December 19, 2016 1 minute ago, fineleg said: How many such potentials/possible good players for India - has Rohit Sharma's dogged selection been blocking for last some years? What is the missed opportunity to Team India due to persistent selection of a dud like Rohit Sharma? Where we havent tried others like Karun Nair (earlier) or Manish Pandey and other batsmen? FYI Rohit averaged 80+ in his last series. Anyways I am all ok for selectors giving various performers and potential youngsters a shot...no problem tweaker 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 yes, For BD test, his pick is ahead of Rohit . Rahane can come in if we go with 4 bowlers, we don't need 3 spinners for BD. tweaker 1 Link to comment
MCcricket Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Kl Rahul but for his KL Rahul but for his impetuosity looks like a fantastic player,he has a good technique n a all-round game n can hit remarkably well. Make sure looks like a busy player n might also be decent in ODI, but haven't seen much driving from him or front foot play, haven't formed an opinion about his game yet. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Here is a complete list of triple centurions in test cricket. Not a single batsman has been a failure in tests apart from Sandham ( who played in the 1920s and is not that relevant now ). This gives us hope that there maybe a long career here too. Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave 100 50 0 BC Lara (ICC/WI) 1990-2006 131 232 6 11953 400* 52.88 34 48 17 ML Hayden (AUS) 1994-2009 103 184 14 8625 380 50.73 30 29 14 DPMD Jayawardene (SL) 1997-2014 149 252 15 11814 374 49.84 34 50 15 GS Sobers (WI) 1954-1974 93 160 21 8032 365* 57.78 26 30 12 L Hutton (ENG) 1937-1955 79 138 15 6971 364 56.67 19 33 5 ST Jayasuriya (SL) 1991-2007 110 188 14 6973 340 40.07 14 31 15 Hanif Mohammad (PAK) 1952-1969 55 97 8 3915 337 43.98 12 15 5 WR Hammond (ENG) 1927-1947 85 140 16 7249 336* 58.45 22 24 4 MA Taylor (AUS) 1989-1999 104 186 13 7525 334* 43.49 19 40 5 DG Bradman (AUS) 1928-1948 52 80 10 6996 334 99.94 29 13 7 CH Gayle (WI) 2000-2014 103 182 11 7214 333 42.18 15 37 15 GA Gooch (ENG) 1975-1995 118 215 6 8900 333 42.58 20 46 13 MJ Clarke (AUS) 2004-2015 115 198 22 8643 329* 49.10 28 27 9 Inzamam-ul-Haq (ICC/PAK) 1992-2007 120 200 22 8830 329 49.60 25 46 15 A Sandham (ENG) 1921-1930 14 23 0 879 325 38.21 2 3 3 KC Sangakkara (SL) 2000-2015 134 233 17 12400 319 57.40 38 52 11 V Sehwag (ICC/INDIA) 2001-2013 104 180 6 8586 319 49.34 23 32 16 Younis Khan (PAK) 2000-2016 113 203 18 9744 313 52.67 33 32 18 HM Amla (SA) 2004-2016 97 164 13 7568 311* 50.11 25 31 9 RB Simpson (AUS) 1957-1978 62 111 7 4869 311 46.81 10 27 8 JH Edrich (ENG) 1963-1976 77 127 9 5138 310* 43.54 12 24 6 RM Cowper (AUS) 1964-1968 27 46 2 2061 307 46.84 5 10 3 KK Nair (INDIA) 2016-2016 3 3 1 320 303* 160.00 1 0 0 Azhar Ali (PAK) 2010-2016 55 104 7 4377 302* 45.12 11 24 10 BB McCullum (NZ) 2004-2016 101 176 9 6453 302 38.64 12 31 14 LG Rowe (WI) 1972-1980 30 49 2 2047 302 43.55 7 7 2 http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=high_score;template=results;type=batting vvvslaxman, Sidhoni and tweaker 3 Link to comment
ykvyas Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Why would I jinx a young Indian player? As I said as good as a 300 is in any circumstance,should it be a benchmark to determine how good he will be based on this circumstance in the future. You wouldn't jinx - but make such posts based on your "acumen" and then conveniently turn it into/term it as "anti-jinx" thread ( like last test) - so you win both ways. Attention seeker like a child :) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rasgulla and sandeep 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 As I said not sold despite the 300. Need to be persisted with but as I said back then...hold your horses. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 To be honest he has looked comfortable at crease . But then got out he looks like has something Gollum 1 Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Nair has looked at ease against the spinners. Against the quicks, a bit doubtful but he will improve. He needs to work on tackling the high speed incoming full deliveries. Link to comment
sensible-indian Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Gollum said: Nair has looked at ease against the spinners. Against the quicks, a bit doubtful but he will improve. He needs to work on tackling the high speed incoming full deliveries. His consistency is shocking. He failed for a few innings before the 300. After the 300, he played a couple of domestic games and failed. Then he came back to the side and failed for 2 games now. Link to comment
Gollum Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, sensible-indian said: His consistency is shocking. He failed for a few innings before the 300. After the 300, he played a couple of domestic games and failed. Then he came back to the side and failed for 2 games now. Agree, he has to improve. But if you see our batting line up, no one is consistent. Rahul is the God of inconsistency (last 5 innings is too low a sample size) Vijay is inconsistent and frankly unpredictable these days. Had he shown the same application this home season that he exhibited in the overseas tours he would have scored 1500 runs, even more than Pujara. He has forgotten how to leave the ball and how to play short pitch deliveries. Also the frequent lapses in concentration is irritating. Pujara is consistently the best batsman in Asia but inconsistent overseas, Rahane viceversa. Kohli, when he goes missing really goes missing, England 2014 and now this. Contrast him to 90s Tendulkar who didn't fail in a single series for 10 years in the strongest era of bowling. Saha, Ashwin, Jadeja too are inconsistent with the bat. And I don't want to even talk about Rohit Sharma, he is useless. Edited March 21, 2017 by Gollum Link to comment
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