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17 minutes ago, diga said:

The missionaries have brainwashed many Dravidians/ Hindus into atheism..They don't even think that Sangam literature could be related to Hinduism

Lol dude have you read any sangam literature. I have in its original form. It's taught in primary school. There is no way for all of it to be ascribed to Hinduism and there is even lesser possibility for it to be ascribed to anything beside dharmic culture. It's written in it.  Vainava boudha Samana saiva they are mentioned in the literary works name. Vainava and saiva are Hindu. Samana in Jain boudha is buddhist. Only an extreme ignoramus can contest this.  

 

What is the percentage of Christians in TN it won't move beyond the cursory 2 percent same for Islam. It's roughly 10 percent of SC ST numbers which should be around 20 percent of the Hindu population.  1 in 10 SC St becomes Christian or Muslim.  TN is Tamil nation won't change. They won't vote for bjp but will be fiercely loyal to India. 

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I haven't read Sangam literature... But I can say that the influence on it from the traditions of the time is undeniable and lemuria being a separate continent can't be believed due to this contradiction.

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1 minute ago, diga said:

I haven't read Sangam literature... But I can say that the influence on it from the traditions of the time is undeniable and lemuria being a separate continent can't be believed due to this contradiction.

Yes but that doesn't mean it's a liturgical literature. Dharma and Indian society in the ancient times were integral part of each other. Therefore you would find shades of Dharma even in Kalidas' love poems.

And Bhai you are taking the word Lemurian way too literally.

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6 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Any one talking about this Lemuria or kumarikandam etc is looked at as a loony. Just so that you know. 

LoL... But difficult to convince a set of Dravidians of this. 

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43 minutes ago, diga said:

LoL... But difficult to convince a set of Dravidians of this. 

wtf is a set of dravidians. really ? you are creating a divide right there.  what is set of dravidians, who do you think are dravidians ?

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7 minutes ago, Vilander said:

wtf is a set of dravidians. really ? you are creating a divide right there.  what is set of dravidians, who do you think are dravidians ?

No offence man...but the types who carry their Tamil identity more than anything else.

 

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1 hour ago, diga said:

No offence man...but the types who carry their Tamil identity more than anything else.

 

So those who carry Indian identity are Aryans then lol.  Dude drop this **** really it's best if every one looks at homogenization. Why would people not carry Tamil identity they are Tamil what other identity do they have? They surely can't carry a bihari or rajastani identity.

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15 hours ago, Muloghonto said:

nice try but democracy has been an unbridled success in India. It hasn't been perfect, but its success is gigantic. And long may it continue. 

Compare China to India. It is ahead in pretty much in all of the important criteria to be a successful nation. Much less poverty, better economy, controlled population number, far better infrastructure and transport links, less fighting amongst different ethnicities, no caste system.

 

Most Indians would die for India to be as successful as China, however they can only console themselves as being better than Pakistan.

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2 hours ago, Vilander said:

So those who carry Indian identity are Aryans then lol.  Dude drop this **** really it's best if every one looks at homogenization. Why would people not carry Tamil identity they are Tamil what other identity do they have? They surely can't carry a bihari or rajastani identity.

Hey...I'm not belittling the language identity nor stereotyping aryan- Dravidian It's more about people who think that there is nothing other than Tamil..there is a big world out there

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9 hours ago, Stradlater said:

Tamilians with Dravidian propaganda are abound on internet paddling lies and false facts against Hinduism.

Not saying all of them are guilty but a sizable proportion of them seems to hold this mentality. Social media is full of such pathetic petty little ones not to mention their sucking to Pakistanis on green forums.

Just what I have observed from my experience bhai.

 

probably you are misinformed 

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38 minutes ago, diga said:

Hey...I'm not belittling the language identity nor stereotyping aryan- Dravidian It's more about people who think that there is nothing other than Tamil..there is a big world out there

probably 3/4%  .. they are both against national parties as well as dravidian parties

admk is openly pro-hindu , better version of bjp ..

 

dmk is anti-hindu , but thats for vote bank politics..

 

kumaraswamy went to sreerangam todo some pooja ( to thank sukran ) after he became CM ..

aftre 3/4 weeks MK stalins wife went to sreerangam todo the same pooja , accompanied by MKS :rotfl: 

 

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3 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Compare China to India. It is ahead in pretty much in all of the important criteria to be a successful nation.

Except the most important one - having people who can get justice, have freedom and peace. Who cares how much $$ you got if you can never live in peace versus your government. 

3 hours ago, Ranvir said:

Much less poverty, better economy, controlled population number, far better infrastructure and transport links, less fighting amongst different ethnicities, no caste system.

 

Most Indians would die for India to be as successful as China, however they can only console themselves as being better than Pakistan.

Most Indians have not been to China or deal with fresh off the boat Chinese. That is why they have no idea how good they have it. I live in a city where there are plenty of Chinese common, regular people who've fled their nation and the terrorism of their state. 

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1 minute ago, Muloghonto said:

Except the most important one - having people who can get justice, have freedom and peace. Who cares how much $$ you got if you can never live in peace versus your government. 

Most Indians have not been to China or deal with fresh off the boat Chinese. That is why they have no idea how good they have it. I live in a city where there are plenty of Chinese common, regular people who've fled their nation and the terrorism of their state. 

Justice in India, yeah right!

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Ranvir said:

Justice in India, yeah right!

 

 

It is slow and frustrating there, but it exists. In China, it flat out does not. You live in a land where justice = Ferrari. Well in India, its not a Ferrari, its a 1960s schoolbus. In China its a bullock cart. With no bullocks. And square wheels. That you must push yourself. Its also on a steep inverted circular incline - so when you do push it with all you got,it falls backwards on you. Welcome to Chinese justice. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

TN elects film actors, enough said.
In 10 years,it's downward spiral will start

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They've been doing it since the 1980s. I think its safe to say, they are gonna be fine if the slide hasn't come in nearly 40 years of electing movie stars....

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They've been doing it since the 1980s. I think its safe to say, they are gonna be fine if the slide hasn't come in nearly 40 years of electing movie stars....
The days of doing politics the old wild West way are done.Models of governance have changed.TN will suffer if they elect Jokers like Stalin and Kangressi.

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modi appears and the bengalis fall at his feet. so much for the bengalis won't fall for the "Patit Pawan Sita Ram" rhetoric here.

 

tsunami modi in bengal.  not sure about the elections but public literally going crazy here

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

TN elects film actors, enough said.
In 10 years,it's downward spiral will start

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Downward spiral started a long time back, where are the great minds TN produced eons ago? That's right, most have fled the state, now it is just mediocrity all around. Surest sign of decline, same happened with West Bengal 30-40 years ago. All the Tamil intelligentsia are based elsewhere or quite old now, Dravidian parties have established all round mediocrity. The Telugu states (and maybe Maharashtra/Gujarat) are rising and will fill the vacuum I guess but too big a hole to fill when you take into account the intellectual accomplishments of Tamils of independent India. 

Let Stalin become CM, further dumb down education standards, abolish NEET and open 50000000 more bogus colleges...dumb down future generations, discourage excellence...if that's what the people want !!! Not saying TN won't produce some great minds but those will be exceptions rather than the norm, after all talent needs a supportive environment/system to nurture it. 

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8 minutes ago, PBN said:

modi appears and the bengalis fall at his feet. so much for the bengalis won't fall for the "Patit Pawan Sita Ram" rhetoric here.

 

tsunami modi in bengal.  not sure about the elections but public literally going crazy here

That is because Modi didn't do the patit-pawan-siya-raam routine there.

 

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1 hour ago, Muloghonto said:

Who cares how much $$ you got if you can never live in peace versus your government. 

dude look at Shenzhen and then tell me if people do not have freedom.

 

China is a glorious example of controlled state capitalism, the only difference between say a Singapore and China, is that Singapore has multiple political entities and China has these factions inside the party itself. 

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19 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

In 10 years,it's downward spiral will start

TN elected film star when it elected MGR. its been 50 years since. All your wet wishes do not become true lol. look at every state metric, a state is based on the people's will. 

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4 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Downward spiral started a long time back, where are the great minds TN produced eons ago? That's right, most have fled the state, now it is just mediocrity all around. Surest sign of decline, same happened with West Bengal 30-40 years ago. All the Tamil intelligentsia are based elsewhere or quite old now, Dravidian parties have established all round mediocrity. The Telugu states are rising and will fill the vacuum I guess but too big a hole to fill when you take into account the intellectual accomplishments of Tamils of independent India. 

Let Stalin become CM, further dumb down education standards, abolish NEET and open 50000000 more bogus colleges...dumb down future generations, discourage excellence...if that's what the people want !!! Not saying TN won't produce some great minds but those will be exceptions rather than the norm, after all talent needs a supportive environment/system to nurture it. 

do you have any statistical evidence for this rant really? 

 

may be you are a marginalized party, maybe your family felt the need to leave TN does not mean everyone does. people leave from every state as a matter of fact droves of them from rest of India as well, brain drain is an issue everywhere, whats the basis to single out TN lol ? besides a hidden agenda amoung usual circle jerk between the usual suspects.

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TN still has an advantage over Bengal, it doesn't border an Islamic state and the minority population (6% Muslims, 6% Christians, may be a bit more if you account for SC/STs hiding their religion in census) is manageable, the TFR of the peacefuls too is very low (1.7 :hail:) and the demographic balance will be maintained forever. Besides Christians are less of a problem in India outside North East. Bengal had 20% Muslim population in 1951, 30% now, apart from the Bangladesh problem the TFR of Hindus in Bengal is 2.2 and for Muslims 4.1 (above 6 in some districts !!!!). I don't want to imagine what the situation will be in 2045 in Bengal, Assam and Kerala :((. A green tide is coming, Bengalis must brace themselves for a lot of misery and suffering.

 

TN just needs to get rid of the crooks in the political landscape. No need of BJP or Congress, if they can set right the current political class or force the emergence of a better (Tamil based) alternative, they will recover and regain their former glory. 

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19 minutes ago, Vilander said:

do you have any statistical evidence for this rant really? 

 

may be you are a marginalized party, maybe your family felt the need to leave TN does not mean everyone does. people leave from every state as a matter of fact droves of them from rest of India as well, brain drain is an issue everywhere, whats the basis to single out TN lol ? besides a hidden agenda amoung usual circle jerk between the usual suspects.

One side of my family left Palakkad 50 years back and the other side has no link to South India at all. No hidden agenda or bitterness, no attachment. This is just a forum and people are free to express themselves, like this thread where even you have identified problems in WB, Kerala, Hyderabad, UP etc. So that is perfectly fine but the minute someone talks about TN it is agenda? 

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52 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

It is slow and frustrating there, but it exists. In China, it flat out does not. You live in a land where justice = Ferrari. Well in India, its not a Ferrari, its a 1960s schoolbus. In China its a bullock cart. With no bullocks. And square wheels. That you must push yourself. Its also on a steep inverted circular incline - so when you do push it with all you got,it falls backwards on you. Welcome to Chinese justice. 

 

At the end of the day any government around the world can get away with injustice, it's just a case of the methods, some governments are more subtle than others. The governments of the UK and USA can make people 'disappear' or silence them.

 

I'm sure once everyone in China becomes literate and all serious poverty is eradicated then it too will have democracy.

 

Democracy can only work when the people are educated enough to know what exactly they are voting for. Even in the west people don't fully understand what they are voting for, can you imagine what is the case in India?

 

The government of China has done some bad things but it has also made so much more progress than India and China is on the verge of being a true first world nation.

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37 minutes ago, Gollum said:

One side of my family left Palakkad 50 years back and the other side has no link to South India at all. No hidden agenda or bitterness, no attachment. This is just a forum and people are free to express themselves, like this thread where even you have identified problems in WB, Kerala, Hyderabad, UP etc. So that is perfectly fine but the minute someone talks about TN it is agenda? 

in the spirit , why dont you back it up with some data. specifically this.  Everything else is  wishful  thinking.

 

1 hour ago, Gollum said:

Downward spiral started a long time back, where are the great minds TN produced eons ago? That's right, most have fled the state, now it is just mediocrity all around. Surest sign of decline, same happened with West Bengal 30-40 years ago. All the Tamil intelligentsia are based elsewhere or quite old now, Dravidian parties have established all round mediocrity. The Telugu states (and maybe Maharashtra/Gujarat) are rising and will fill the vacuum I guess but too big a hole to fill when you take into account the intellectual accomplishments of Tamils of independent India. 

Let Stalin become CM, further dumb down education standards, abolish NEET and open 50000000 more bogus colleges...dumb down future generations, discourage excellence...if that's what the people want !!! Not saying TN won't produce some great minds but those will be exceptions rather than the norm, after all talent needs a supportive environment/system to nurture it. 

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50 minutes ago, Gollum said:

have identified problems in WB, Kerala, Hyderabad, UP etc. So that is perfectly fine but the minute someone talks about TN it is agenda? 

 

'agenda' or biased information basically statements not backed by evidence. 

 

and if someone states something about any state without any evidence on show it could also be seen as agenda post. Don't use any false equivalence here. 

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45 minutes ago, Ranvir said:

At the end of the day any government around the world can get away with injustice, it's just a case of the methods, some governments are more subtle than others. The governments of the UK and USA can make people 'disappear' or silence them.

Stop talking nonsense. In China you can literally get shot in the face, then thrown into jail for persuing a case. And thats just for starters. Stop trying to make it seem like justice doesn't exist anywhere because you live in this weird fantasy that people care more about money than not being slaves. China is a nation of slaves. 

45 minutes ago, Ranvir said:

I'm sure once everyone in China becomes literate and all serious poverty is eradicated then it too will have democracy.

Uhm...what ?! Dude, China is 97% literate. This is one of the very few things that commies are known for - literacy. China has been batting at over 95% literacy for 40 years now. 

45 minutes ago, Ranvir said:

Democracy can only work when the people are educated enough to know what exactly they are voting for. Even in the west people don't fully understand what they are voting for, can you imagine what is the case in India?

False. democracy works even in a half literate nation like India. Which has been working for 70 years. More education leads to a more informed democracy but as India has shown the world, democracy can and does work even with hundreds of millions of illiterate people. 

45 minutes ago, Ranvir said:

The government of China has done some bad things but it has also made so much more progress than India and China is on the verge of being a true first world nation.

Nobody except outsiders and the Chinese elites care about such nonsense. Again, i live in a city where every year thousands of common Chinese sell their kidneys or entire life savings to escape to. I am yet to meet an Indo-Canadian, who is not a Khalistani or Kashmiri terrorist, who has had to 'flee' India and live in a free land. 

 

You have no freedom in China, no voice, no expression and no justice. Just money and government approved entertainment. So stop making it sound like democracy doesn't work because a few Chinese elites are making a crap ton of money.

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1 hour ago, Vilander said:

dude look at Shenzhen and then tell me if people do not have freedom.

I don't need to look at Shenzen, i just need to look at the tens of thousands of common Chinese who are fleeing China. Or the fact that China for the last 15 years ( ie, very close after globalization) has the largest capital flight in history of mankind. Or the fact that our housing market here ( Pacific NW) is crazy pricy because every damn Chinese millionaire has an exit strategy based on having a house here. 

1 hour ago, Vilander said:

China is a glorious example of controlled state capitalism, the only difference between say a Singapore and China, is that Singapore has multiple political entities and China has these factions inside the party itself. 

The difference between Singapore and China, is that thanks to the British, Singapore has a real judiciary. China does not. Do you realize that in the Chinese constitution,it OFFICIALLY says that the judiciary exists to benefit the Communist Party ? Do you know that Chief Justice of China has never even practiced law, nevermind being a judge ? Do you realize that China has the least amount of freedom ever ? That if this site was based in China and we were Chinese, we'd have the police knocking on our door- each and every single one of us - over what we post here ?

 

There is a saying amongst the Chinese - the rich may eat the poor, thinking that the proximity to the emperor makes them invulnerable. But they forget, the Chinese emperor is the only cannibal emperor on the planet- he will eat those closest to him just to put the rest in their place. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

no, the point is, if he does resort to it, he will lose Bengal and rest of the North-east. 

Beggars can't be choosers. If I were a Bengali , at this point I would gladly choose Siya Ram rhetoric over what awaits for me in the future if TMC is allowed to be returned for another term.

 

It's time Bongs drop the whole intellectual act and get in line like the rest of us.

Warna khamiyaza bhugatne ke liye taiyar raho.

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33 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

Beggars can't be choosers. If I were a Bengali , at this point I would gladly choose Siya Ram rhetoric over what awaits for me in the future if TMC is allowed to be returned for another term.

 

It's time Bongs drop the whole intellectual act and get in line like the rest of us.

Warna khamiyaza bhugatne ke liye taiyar raho.

1.As long as its rhetoric, we won't mind.

2. Abe bewakoof, its not just that we are more liberal and historically better educated than the hindi belt. The entire REASON the patit-pawan-siya-ram nonsense doesn't work in Bengal is because we are *NOT* the same type of Hindus as the hindi-belt macho chauvinistic types. Its a fundamental clash of culture for us - we are the 'devi ma' first. nevermind your ram, krishna, shiva, we have and always will celebrate the Durgas, the Kalis, the Saraswatis more than your Janmastami or such. We don't celebrate Dusshera as Ram returning or some nonsense, we celebrate it as Kali Puja. The reason your patit-pawan-siya-ram nonsense doesn't work because we see the 'Sita' archetype as a weak caricature of the Indian feminine, brought to prominent by pre-islamic invaders like the Scythians and Hepthalites who made up the pre-Islamic foreign elites of the North-west, from whom the Rajputs are culturally descended from. 

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20 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

no, the point is, if he does resort to it, he will lose Bengal and rest of the North-east. 

ok enjoy. but everyone knows what the BJP party stands for, he doesn't need to spit it out each time. i don't even dwell too much time and effort into indian politics.  but think this time, many might be voting might be along religious lines.  of course, ground zero reality might be quite different at the time of elections but let's see. 

 

tbh, i don't care if bengalis choose TMC or whoever. bengalis will choose their leader.  

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6 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

I don't need to look at Shenzen, i just need to look at the tens of thousands of common Chinese who are fleeing China. Or the fact that China for the last 15 years ( ie, very close after globalization) has the largest capital flight in history of mankind. Or the fact that our housing market here ( Pacific NW) is crazy pricy because every damn Chinese millionaire has an exit strategy based on having a house here. 

The difference between Singapore and China, is that thanks to the British, Singapore has a real judiciary. China does not. Do you realize that in the Chinese constitution,it OFFICIALLY says that the judiciary exists to benefit the Communist Party ? Do you know that Chief Justice of China has never even practiced law, nevermind being a judge ? Do you realize that China has the least amount of freedom ever ? That if this site was based in China and we were Chinese, we'd have the police knocking on our door- each and every single one of us - over what we post here ?

 

There is a saying amongst the Chinese - the rich may eat the poor, thinking that the proximity to the emperor makes them invulnerable. But they forget, the Chinese emperor is the only cannibal emperor on the planet- he will eat those closest to him just to put the rest in their place. 

 

not discounting the overseas chinese inflow to Vancouver. Knowing how some of them are uncouth i can imagine your experience with them.

 

for me, one of the underlying factors in this is social justice. If there is no social justice, then China can not have this many entrepreneurs and scientists etc, so even if lack of a well defined ( by western definition of the standards) justice system is evident it might not mean they have no justice in their society. Maybe its ensured by other means, surely it should be they have a pretty progressive nation like the most progressive one in terms of economy.  

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

1.As long as its rhetoric, we won't mind.

2. Abe bewakoof, its not just that we are more liberal and historically better educated than the hindi belt. The entire REASON the patit-pawan-siya-ram nonsense doesn't work in Bengal is because we are *NOT* the same type of Hindus as the hindi-belt macho chauvinistic types. Its a fundamental clash of culture for us - we are the 'devi ma' first. f*ck your ram, krishna, shiva, we have and always will celebrate the Durgas, the Kalis, the Saraswatis more than your Janmastami or such. We don't celebrate Dusshera as Ram returning or some nonsense, we celebrate it as Kali Puja. The reason your patit-pawan-siya-ram nonsense doesn't work because we see the 'Sita' archetype as a weak caricature of the Indian feminine, brought to prominent by pre-islamic invaders like the Scythians and Hepthalites who made up the pre-Islamic foreign elites of the North-west, from whom the Rajputs are culturally descended from. 

You are one shameless chutia.

I wonder how could Mods tolerate such language against Hindu Gods.

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Just now, Stradlater said:

You are one shameless chutia.

I wonder how could Mods tolerate such language against Hindu Gods.

And Rajputs descendants of Scythians LMAO.

 

 

What language against what Gods ? Sita is neither a God or a Goddess - at best, she is an avatar. She is not on the same playing field as Durga or Kali, who are ACTUAL Goddesses. And comparing personalities, its pretty clear why Sita is weak and barely makes a dent in the psyche of the 'Shakta' leaning hindus, aka the Bong and NE Hindus. 

 

PS: Re: Rajpus- Culturally, yes they are descendants of  Hepthalites (who form the cultural basis of the Rajputs and Pashtuns) and the Scythians. Read up about them when you get a chance. The Gurajara-Pratiharas are directly related to the amalgam of the Hepthalite/Scythian folk, with Chalukya culture, who in turn are the direct ancestors of the Rajputs.

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6 minutes ago, Vilander said:

not discounting the overseas chinese inflow to Vancouver. Knowing how some of them are uncouth i can imagine your experience with them.

 

for me, one of the underlying factors in this is social justice. If there is no social justice, then China can not have this many entrepreneurs and scientists etc, so even if lack of a well defined ( by western definition of the standards) justice system is evident it might not mean they have no justice in their society. Maybe its ensured by other means, surely it should be they have a pretty progressive nation like the most progressive one in terms of economy.  

There is no causal link between social justice and having entreprenuers/scientists - the entreprenuers in China all have direct link with the military cabaal and the scientists are there simply because they are needed. china is basically what a stable African tinpot dictatorship is - they have entreprenuers there too, who are all there because of their kissing up to the military-mafia. The scientist scenario is similar to the whole 'why work in the middle east' scenario, minus the amazing pay and option to leave. 

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5 minutes ago, Muloghonto said:

 

What language against what Gods ? Sita is neither a God or a Goddess - at best, she is an avatar. She is not on the same playing field as Durga or Kali, who are ACTUAL Goddesses. And comparing personalities, its pretty clear why Sita is weak and barely makes a dent in the psyche of the 'Shakta' leaning hindus, aka the Bong and NE Hindus. 

 

PS: Re: Rajpus- Culturally, yes they are descendants of  Hepthalites (who form the cultural basis of the Rajputs and Pashtuns) and the Scythians. Read up about them when you get a chance. The Gurajara-Pratiharas are directly related to the amalgam of the Hepthalite/Scythian folk, with Chalukya culture, who in turn are the direct ancestors of the Rajputs.

You don't need to tell me about my own history. I have read up sufficient literature on this. There's no direct evidence relating Pratiharas to Hepthalites/Scythians. While it might be true that some of the upper class vanquished Foreigners might have gotten mixed with a few of our clans but calling Rajputs a direct descendent of those uncultured barbarians couldn't be farther from the truth.

 

Edit: You used the F word against Ram and Shiva. 

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You don't need to tell me about my own history. I have read up sufficient literature on this. There's no direct evidence relating Pratiharas to Hepthalites/Scythians. While it might be true that some of the upper class vanquished Foreigners might have gotten mixed with a few of our clans but calling Rajputs a direct descendent of those uncultured barbarians couldn't be farther from the truth.
 
Edit: You used the F word against Ram and Shiva. 
The fattu corrected it

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6 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

You don't need to tell me about my own history. I have read up sufficient literature on this. There's no direct evidence relating Pratiharas to Hepthalites/Scythians. While it might be true that some of the upper class vanquished Foreigners might have gotten mixed with a few of our clans but calling Rajputs a direct descendent of those uncultured barbarians couldn't be farther from the truth.

There is plenty of evidence of the hepthalite-Scythian royalties forming the basis of the Gurjara-Pratihara royal clans. Numismatics, art, etc. are highly similar, so is the culture - which sees a sharp divide from the Magadh & Indo-greek era. This is not definitive ofcourse, but most of the evidence points towards Rajputs being a complex amalgam of the Indians & the pre-Islamic invaders, particularly with the cultural tilt as recorded. 

6 minutes ago, Stradlater said:

Edit: You used the F word against Ram and Shiva. 

Hahahahaha. Ok, edited for sensitive snowflakes. You know the context of the word there but who am I to argue with snowflakes....

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1 minute ago, Muloghonto said:

There is plenty of evidence of the hepthalite-Scythian royalties forming the basis of the Gurjara-Pratihara royal clans. Numismatics, art, etc. are highly similar, so is the culture - which sees a sharp divide from the Magadh & Indo-greek era. This is not definitive ofcourse, but most of the evidence points towards Rajputs being a complex amalgam of the Indians & the pre-Islamic invaders, particularly with the cultural tilt as recorded. 

Hahahahaha. Ok, edited for sensitive snowflakes. You know the context of the word there but who am I to argue with snowflakes....

Ja re Yar. Tujhse argue karna matlab banging head against a brick wall.

 

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