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Why Pakistan celebrated their independence day on 25th instead of 14? [emoji3]

Guess Pakistan will soon.get independence from balochistan and may change their independence day [emoji23]

Anyway nasdaq hosted Indian independence day on 15th august.. Just saying

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^ Do you have Calender at home ? or do i need to post it here on ICF ?  

check out the day on 14th august.

it was Sunday. 

and here in pakistan we starts our celebration from 1st August to the end of the month in all places/shopping malls/resturants etc.  

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pointless, the next big economy in south Asia after India is Bangladesh (soon to overtake Pakistan in size) and then Myanmar.

 

The future south asia growth will be powered by India-Bangladesh-Myanmar.

 

Pakistan is a basket case still begging money from IMF and USA, on top of that also end-up paying interest to the Chinese for eternity. A whole generation of young Pakistanis will be working their entire lives to just pay off interests due to current policy decisions of their elders.

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29 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

^ Do you have Calender at home ? or do i need to post it here on ICF ?  

check out the day on 14th august.

it was Sunday. 

and here in pakistan we starts our celebration from 1st August to the end of the month in all places/shopping malls/resturants etc.  

its called independence DAY for a reason and not a independence MONTH :hehe:

i think this is the classic case of lahori logic :giggle:

 

anyway nasadq host us every independence day  of ours and they hosted us on 15th ( though it is symbolic gesture than anything else )..

hosting pakistan on some random day proves how important your country even though it is a symbolic gesture ( if 14th is holiday and 15th booked by us , why not on 16th or 17th :hmmm: )

 

anyway NASDAQ insulted Pakistan but padosis are too dumb to realise :rotfl:

 

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10 hours ago, velu said:

its called independence DAY for a reason and not a independence MONTH :hehe:

i think this is the classic case of lahori logic :giggle:

 

anyway nasadq host us every independence day  of ours and they hosted us on 15th ( though it is symbolic gesture than anything else )..

hosting pakistan on some random day proves how important your country even though it is a symbolic gesture ( if 14th is holiday and 15th booked by us , why not on 16th or 17th :hmmm: )

 

anyway NASDAQ insulted Pakistan but padosis are too dumb to realise :rotfl:

 

It was independence celebration not Independence DAY celebration at NASDAQ.

as i told one of your poster that no matter what i post here, i got ridicule. ( not that i am complaining about it) 

 

what lahori logic ? sorry , i am not from Lahore.

Eid-ul-fitr should be only Celebrated for One day as per Sharia/Islamic ruling. but we celebrate Eid-ul-fitr 3 to 4 days continuously, somtimes a whole week. 

Its OUR COUNTRY, OUR RULE. Pakistan.gif

and yes we do celebrate our Independence almost whole month. if you dont belive me thn ask to @Asim . he seems more reliable person thn me. right ? 

 

 

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^^^

 

not sure whether i should laugh or cry :Cry::rotfl:

 

and if ringing the closing bell in nasdaq is the highlights of pakistans economy , then congrats for this himalayan achievement :thumsup:

 

and fyki , 15th we did ring the closing bell and nobosy gave any importance

 

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/m-j-akbar-to-ring-nasdaq-bell-to-mark-indias-independence-day/articleshow/53693611.cms

 

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10 hours ago, chewy said:

pointless, the next big economy in south Asia after India is Bangladesh (soon to overtake Pakistan in size) and then Myanmar.

 

The future south asia growth will be powered by India-Bangladesh-Myanmar.

 

Pakistan is a basket case still begging money from IMF and USA, on top of that also end-up paying interest to the Chinese for eternity. A whole generation of young Pakistanis will be working their entire lives to just pay off interests due to current policy decisions of their elders.

^ pointless .... 

Mark my words, Bangladesh in coming days going to fall down step by step. 

I have made my analysis about this region couple of years ago on ICF. search that and you will have your answer.

I am 90% Correct in my all analysis.

and I am more closer to the ground realities thn you folks. 

 

this begging bowl rhetoric is funny , especially when its coming from few Indian posters.

becoz no one (Pakistani posters) gives you the reply on this so you think you can say whatever you want to my country ? right ? 

 

Let me tell you something, Do you even know who has the biggest begging bowl in all Asia ? do you really wana know ? or Do i need to spoon feed you on this too ? seems you dont know about ur own country. so dont try to even go thre. 

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10 hours ago, velu said:

^^^

 

is this lahori analysis ? :giggle:

 

anyway keep entertaining us .. banana republic prediting the failure of other coutry :rotfl:

 

My pleasure, coming months will be more entertaining for this region especially for our neighbour(s). 

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29 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

It was independence celebration not Independence DAY celebration at NASDAQ.

as i told one of your poster that no matter what i post here, i got ridicule. ( not that i am complaining about it) 

 

what lahori logic ? sorry , i am not from Lahore.

Eid-ul-fitr should be only Celebrated for One day as per Sharia/Islamic ruling. but we celebrate Eid-ul-fitr 3 to 4 days continuously, somtimes a whole week. 

Its OUR COUNTRY, OUR RULE. Pakistan.gif

and yes we do celebrate our Independence almost whole month. if you dont belive me thn ask to @Asim . he seems more reliable person thn me. right ? 

 

 

 

no country celebrate their independence  for one month :giggle:

anyway its your country ..

 

even you were reliable before .. but now you are behaving just like another indian hater

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10 hours ago, velu said:

 

no country celebrate their independence  for one month :giggle:

anyway its your country ..

 

even you were reliable before .. but now you are behaving just like another indian hater

if we can celebrate Eid-ul-fitr for 4 days thn why we cant celebrate Independence day for a month in all places/shopping malls/resturants etc ? 

as i said ask to @Asim

 

Good generalization...

bro, i dont need a certificate from anyone .... not now and not before.

becoz i represent my country thats why i am just another terrorist delusional indian hater with madarsa education with lahori logic ? fine.

 

as i said, i am more closer to the Ground realities thn you folks. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, chewy said:

That's the problem with Pakistanis, always mixing religion with notion of statehood, peace and equality. And that is why Pakistan will remain a Terror Republic, and soon Baluchistan will be liberated from Pakistani occupiers, inshallah!

Keep telling yourself that. In the meantime, Ajit Doval will be busy sponsoring terrorism under the name of religion in Balochistan, Karachi, IOK, Afghanistan and the rest of Pakistan which you have no problem given your subtle hint in the post.

 

By the way, USA rejected Modi claim because USA sincerely believes India is behind the terrorism in Pakistan and Afghanistan. :--D

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6 hours ago, Vilander said:

I should have said, wage war to defend against the arabs. 

does not matter if Arab eventually became Islamic. The point is if people in indus valley had a propensity to be islamic they would still have been islamic while being an Indian national, no harm in that. You can never judge a nation trying to defend its border, ever.

You guys would have drowned in the desert land. I take it you haven't seen Lawrence of Arabia. There is the reason why no force had bothered to attack there. It would be like shooting in your feet. Technically, it is impossible. Whereas for Qasim which i believe you are referring to; i think he succeeded because people in ancient India were busy fighting each other. That was big mistake. He simply exploited that just as British force did later.

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10 hours ago, velu said:

 

turks and Egyptians screwed arabia whenever they wanted :dontknow:

 

Arabia never stood chance against Turk mixed-bred coupled with bloodline of Genghis Khan. They were barbaric. Even advanced Iraq, during that time, didn't have chance against Genghis Khan either. It was inevitable. :frown:

 

Even then, the civil war in Arabia had been stretched far too long. Finally, Arabia succeeded which would be 1924 as it gained freedom through British force from Ottoman Empire.

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11 hours ago, velu said:

 

pretender Pakistanis are a new term me .. lol .. 

who wants to pretend to be a pakistani ?:--D

 

pakitan is there in baloch because of its gas resource ..

and why we want to sponsor terrorism in pakistan ? .. pakistan will end up terrorizing itself :hehe:

 

Who wants to be pretend to be Pakistanis? Afghans and Indians. I mean one Indian spy just got caught in Balochistan which he traveled through Iran. Disaster day for Iran .

 

Normally, pretender Pakistanis is associated with Afghans. Hence 'pretenders'. Ajit Doval admits sponsoring terrorism so the only source of terrorism traces back to him and him only. Please carry on with the lies.

 

Balochistan is part of Pakistan because they chose Pakistan just like Khyber chose Pakistan over Afghanistan. And that bothered Afghanistan big time. :--D

 

 

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@KeyboardWarrior ground reality is pakistan has proven track record of sponsoring terrorism..

osama was sheltered in pak.. many wanted terrorits are sheltered there .. dawood is still in karachi .. kasab is a pakistani

 

there are more than enough evidances , but you gusy still believe in conspiracy theories

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21 minutes ago, velu said:

@KeyboardWarrior ground reality is pakistan has proven track record of sponsoring terrorism..

osama was sheltered in pak.. many wanted terrorits are sheltered there .. dawood is still in karachi .. kasab is a pakistani

 

there are more than enough evidances , but you gusy still believe in conspiracy theories

You lot voted a mass murderer butcher of Gujarat as PM.

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10 hours ago, velu said:

@KeyboardWarrior ground reality is pakistan has proven track record of sponsoring terrorism..

osama was sheltered in pak.. many wanted terrorits are sheltered there .. dawood is still in karachi .. kasab is a pakistani

 

there are more than enough evidances , but you gusy still believe in conspiracy theories

^ what conspiracy theory ? 

dont act like a cry baby.

in other thread you told me every country play the proxy war with each other in this region. 

 

Usama was in pakistan but US said pakistan didnt know that. now you have to belive what Uncle SAM told you. so i suggest you to belive on it too. 

 

You have BLA's Second in-command ( Which is banned by UN) residing in new dehli which ur spokesperson confirmed. if its not true. sue him/her.

 

you have Dhaka bakery blast mastermind hiding in ur country and ur RAW didnt know about it ? fine.

 

your RAW trained NDS which is hiding TTP ( Banned by UN) leadership in afghanistan and you think its conspiracy theory ? so CIA handed over the TTP commanders to ISI is just a conspiracy theory for you ? 

 

do you know NDS was behind APS attack ? wheres the finance cme for this attack ? it cme from a "friendly" nation.    

 

when i posted a thread about this couple of yrs back .... 

India financed problems for Pak in Afghanistan, says US defence secretary nominee Chuck Hagel

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/India-financed-problems-for-Pak-in-Afghanistan-says-US-defence-secretary-nominee-Chuck-Hagel/articleshow/18694475.cms

 

you people called it conspiracy theory ? Now what ist ? still a conspiracy theory ?....

 

you ( Indian posters ) need to come out of this mindset that everything is conspiracy theory. becoz 90% its not the case.

 

India finance and trained Mukti bahni .... that was also a conspiracy theory ?

 

Grow up budy. 

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5 hours ago, velu said:

^^^

 

good and bad taliban terms are enough .. dont bring your pretender pakistani term here :giggle:

 

Why? Cannot handle the fact? Is it okay for Ajit Doval to sponsor terrorism using pretenders Pakistanis from Afghanistan but not okay to talk about it? :--D

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7 hours ago, velu said:

@KeyboardWarrior ground reality is pakistan has proven track record of sponsoring terrorism..

osama was sheltered in pak.. many wanted terrorits are sheltered there .. dawood is still in karachi .. kasab is a pakistani

 

there are more than enough evidances , but you gusy still believe in conspiracy theories

you can keep counting on these, I can tell you even more but when it comes to nations on both sides, a huuge credit goes to Pakistani nation who always rejects any sort of extreme elements, let alone 'electing' them as head of state... On the other hand indian nation happily elected such elements with an established track-record of extremism and whole world seen what happened next in 'secular' HINDUstan...

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13 hours ago, KeyboardWarrior said:

^ pointless .... 

Mark my words, Bangladesh in coming days going to fall down step by step. 

I have made my analysis about this region couple of years ago on ICF. search that and you will have your answer.

I am 90% Correct in my all analysis.

and I am more closer to the ground realities thn you folks. 

 

this begging bowl rhetoric is funny , especially when its coming from few Indian posters.

becoz no one (Pakistani posters) gives you the reply on this so you think you can say whatever you want to my country ? right ? 

 

Let me tell you something, Do you even know who has the biggest begging bowl in all Asia ? do you really wana know ? or Do i need to spoon feed you on this too ? seems you dont know about ur own country. so dont try to even go thre. 

You don't have the rudimentary understanding of basic finance and macroeconomics.

 

It is better you stick to posting articles on Aerospace & Defence.  

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Why? Cannot handle the fact? Is it okay for Ajit Doval to sponsor terrorism using pretenders Pakistanis from Afghanistan but not okay to talk about it? :--D

Do you have any proof?Any international organisation that has indicted Ajit Doval?

And please dont post a video from 4-5 years back when Doval was not NSA or where he said "another Mumbai will mean retaliation".

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HDI, Economy, Human right,s Olympic etc etc , its all the 3rd world countries problems not only for Pakistan.

i dont need to spoon feed you (Indian Posters) about how much Pakistan has Improved in past 3 years or so ....

 

Thre are many threads i created often about 70% Decline of terrorist attacks in 2015-16 in Pakistan, Pakistan Stock Exchange Best in the Asia , Bloomberg reports , Pakistan got MSCI status, GDP , Pakistan got the membership of European CERN, Russia-China SCO etc etc 

 

for the country who gt struck with Terrorism from last one decade or so. Its still doing well in 2016.

I am quite sure no country other thn pakistan can survive this kind of situation.

 

I got ridicule here (not that i am complaining about it. only telling you ) whenver i post something positive about pakistan. looks like some people dont wana know or listen positive things about pakistan and keep watching NDTV and ZEE news. :dontknow:

 

so bro, i am not gonna spoon feed you (Indian posters) on this. 

but come out this NDTV and ZEE news BS plz. 

Bloomberg termed it's the most growing stock exchange in Asia (Not just south Asia I think) not the best as u seem to assume .It's because markets like India and China are at a saturation level (India still grew 7℅ albeit) whereas Pakistan was basically in a crippling state and now staging a decent recovery .

It was not long ago KSE was downgraded to frontier status by MCSI .

Anyone can own 100% shares in any company in Pakistan .Not even any restrictions on foreign exchange conversion, repatriation of profits.Which is a big deal for investors but makes the economy completely unsustainable for an emerging market No big emerging country (India , China or Brazil) allows this .

So in the current environment where oil prices are plummeting down Pakistan stock exchange is a lucrative market .

Honestly if I am Pakistani , I would be hugely worried about the way Pakistan economy infrastructure is set up.It is a hugely risky way and Pakistan don't have any ability to absorb any market shocks .More so with the huge trade deficit despite record low oil prices .The last 2-3 years have been good for ur economy mainly becoz of the oil prices (and admittedly decent FDI) but once oolil prices start going up Pakistan will again the in the same s.hit they faced in 2013(where IMG saved their asses) or in 2009 where the whole stock exchange was paralyzed .

So not exactly sure what is there for Pakistan economy to be chest thumping about .

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15 hours ago, chewy said:

You don't have the rudimentary understanding of basic finance and macroeconomics.

 

It is better you stick to posting articles on Aerospace & Defence.  

so its the birth right of every indian to talk about finance situation of my country, calling it beggers and what not but i cant talk about it ? and i cant give you reply back ? Good .... 

 

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14 hours ago, beautifulgame said:

 

 

 

 

Bloomberg termed it's the most growing stock exchange in Asia (Not just south Asia I think) not the best as u seem to assume .It's because markets like India and China are at a saturation level (India still grew 7℅ albeit) whereas Pakistan was basically in a crippling state and now staging a decent recovery .

 

 

It was not long ago KSE was downgraded to frontier status by MCSI .

 

 

Anyone can own 100% shares in any company in Pakistan .Not even any restrictions on foreign exchange conversion, repatriation of profits.Which is a big deal for investors but makes the economy completely unsustainable for an emerging market No big emerging country (India , China or Brazil) allows this .

 

 

So in the current environment where oil prices are plummeting down Pakistan stock exchange is a lucrative market .

 

 

Honestly if I am Pakistani , I would be hugely worried about the way Pakistan economy infrastructure is set up.It is a hugely risky way and Pakistan don't have any ability to absorb any market shocks .More so with the huge trade deficit despite record low oil prices .The last 2-3 years have been good for ur economy mainly becoz of the oil prices (and admittedly decent FDI) but once oolil prices start going up Pakistan will again the in the same s.hit they faced in 2013(where IMG saved their asses) or in 2009 where the whole stock exchange was paralyzed .

 

 

So not exactly sure what is there for Pakistan economy to be chest thumping about .

whos chest thumping here ? 

One ICFers ask me to give the data, and i have to spoon feed him. 

thre are multiple factors/indicators involved for a boosting economy. so right now these factors/indicators are on right directions.

we will know for sure in coming couple of years. 

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7 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

Do you have any proof?Any international organisation that has indicted Ajit Doval?

And please dont post a video from 4-5 years back when Doval was not NSA or where he said "another Mumbai will mean retaliation".

Ajit Doval was hired by Modi right after video confession of threatening to sponsor terrorism which already show the intention of Modi . One indian agent was caught on the Balochistan recently. Recent investigation has pointed towards India. Even Afghan intels has boasted about working with India sponsoring terrorism through TTP in Pakistan. Now Iran are fed up with Indian involvement in Balochistan and Afghanistan.

 

The worse part is your own officials are now threatening to unleash terrorism to stop CPEC.

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10 hours ago, velu said:

And your whole country hosted osama emoji3.png

Pakistan arrested and killed Osama like Pakistan just did with TTP. Right now, Pakistan is busy taking care of MQM too.

 

Meanwhile, India rewarded Modi with leadership for genocidal, busy sponsoring terrorism through Afghanistan in Pakistan.:--D

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13 minutes ago, Finer said:

Pakistan arrested and killed Osama like Pakistan just did with TTP. Right now, Pakistan is busy taking care of MQM too.

 

Meanwhile, India rewarded Modi with leadership for genocidal, busy sponsoring terrorism through Afghanistan in Pakistan.:--D

 

we dont need todo anything .. pakistan  has trade surplus in terrorism :hehe:

 

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3 hours ago, Finer said:

Ajit Doval was hired by Modi right after video confession of threatening to sponsor terrorism which already show the intention of Modi . One indian agent was caught on the Balochistan recently. Recent investigation has pointed towards India. Even Afghan intels has boasted about working with India sponsoring terrorism through TTP in Pakistan. Now Iran are fed up with Indian involvement in Balochistan and Afghanistan.

 

The worse part is your own officials are now threatening to unleash terrorism to stop CPEC.

 

LOLfer.Who teaches these theories?Even Zaid Hamid isnt this level.

 

Ait Doval said that if Pakistan sponsors another Mumbai attack they will lose Balochistan.So yes next time Pakistan thinks about sponsoring killing of Indians they must think about the consequences.What do you think that Pakistan can sponsor killing of Indians and there wont be any retaliation?Think again.There is nothing wrong in what Doval said,he gave a warning and possible scenario if Pakistan killed Indians.

 

There are numerous countries that provide financial and military help to Afghanistan and India is one of them.The govt of Afghanistan is a UN backed and recognised govt and any help to them is legal.

 

The Iranian President gave his piece of mind to that Army Chief of yours when Raheel Shareef tried to tell the Iranian President that India was involved in Balochistan.Go read that statement.

 

LOL at CPEC.Its a tiny investment when you see India's overall economic size.It hardly matters.The opposition is that CPEC runs through POK which is illegally occupied by Pakistan.Plus more than India US is interested in stopping CPEC and deal a blow to China.

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3 hours ago, Finer said:

Pakistan arrested and killed Osama like Pakistan just did with TTP. Right now, Pakistan is busy taking care of MQM too.

 

Meanwhile, India rewarded Modi with leadership for genocidal, busy sponsoring terrorism through Afghanistan in Pakistan.:--D

 

You mean US killed Osama while Pakistan imprisoned Shakil Afridi?

 

UN sanctioned terrorists and terror organisations operate freely in Pakistan.For eg. Hafeez Saeed,JuD,JeM,Hizbul,so on and so forth.

 

Next time provide some proof of your statements,trolling isnt allowed on ICF and your repeated statement with no proof whatsoever is troling nothing else.

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7 hours ago, velu said:

 

we dont need todo anything .. pakistan  has trade surplus in terrorism :hehe:

 

You mean Afghanistan where your Ajit Doval has confessed sponsoring terrorism  through Afghani suicide members in Pakistan and why USA rejected Modi outright. Have you learned nothing after USA called out your lies; i mean your Modi? :--D

 

On the other hand, hindu terrorists are on the rise due to the courtesy of the communal party heading by genocidal leader; Modi. :--D

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3 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

You mean US killed Osama while Pakistan imprisoned Shakil Afridi?

 

UN sanctioned terrorists and terror organisations operate freely in Pakistan.For eg. Hafeez Saeed,JuD,JeM,Hizbul,so on and so forth.

 

Next time provide some proof of your statements,trolling isnt allowed on ICF and your repeated statement with no proof whatsoever is troling nothing else.

USA with the help of Pakistan found and killed Osama. That is official stance.

 

Ajit Doval, in-charge of Indian NSA, picked by Modi, confessed sponsoring terrorism in Balochistan and the rest of Pakistan. That is on the official record.

 

Indian soldiers committing genocide against native Kashmiris. That is on the official record.

 

Genocide case against Modi on Gujarat incident is on the official record too, hence Genocidal leader.

 

Unfortunately, your own Indian medias teach you otherwise.

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3 hours ago, Malcolm Merlyn said:

 

LOLfer.Who teaches these theories?Even Zaid Hamid isnt this level.

 

Ait Doval said that if Pakistan sponsors another Mumbai attack they will lose Balochistan.So yes next time Pakistan thinks about sponsoring killing of Indians they must think about the consequences.What do you think that Pakistan can sponsor killing of Indians and there wont be any retaliation?Think again.There is nothing wrong in what Doval said,he gave a warning and possible scenario if Pakistan killed Indians.

 

There are numerous countries that provide financial and military help to Afghanistan and India is one of them.The govt of Afghanistan is a UN backed and recognised govt and any help to them is legal.

 

The Iranian President gave his piece of mind to that Army Chief of yours when Raheel Shareef tried to tell the Iranian President that India was involved in Balochistan.Go read that statement.

 

LOL at CPEC.Its a tiny investment when you see India's overall economic size.It hardly matters.The opposition is that CPEC runs through POK which is illegally occupied by Pakistan.Plus more than India US is interested in stopping CPEC and deal a blow to China.

Ajit Doval has been caught confessing about sponsoring terrorism in Balochistan and the rest of Pakistan. Recently, an Indian agent has been caught trespassing in Balochistan.

 

Don't take it lightly when in-charge of Indian NSA confess sponsoring terrorism. Then, your own officials are now threatening to destroy CPEC using subtle hints [sponsoring terrorism through TTP].

 

Your own government, your officials, your in-charge NSA are openly threatening to sponsor terrorism. I suggest you focus on that.

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1 hour ago, Finer said:

Ajit Doval has been caught confessing about sponsoring terrorism in Balochistan and the rest of Pakistan. Recently, an Indian agent has been caught trespassing in Balochistan.

 

Don't take it lightly when in-charge of Indian NSA confess sponsoring terrorism. Then, your own officials are now threatening to destroy CPEC using subtle hints [sponsoring terrorism through TTP].

 

Your own government, your officials, your in-charge NSA are openly threatening to sponsor terrorism. I suggest you focus on that.

Okay, where is Hafiz Saeed now?

 

And Dawood Ibrahim is a family member now of your 'legendary' cricketer. Have some sense before accusing us of sponsoring terrorism. You have housed terrorists and are hiding them.

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12 hours ago, Adi_91 said:

Okay, where is Hafiz Saeed now?

 

And Dawood Ibrahim is a family member now of your 'legendary' cricketer. Have some sense before accusing us of sponsoring terrorism. You have housed terrorists and are hiding them.

I just gave you official versions. I mean official version. But you are focused on drama antics which India medias regular provides for TRP entertainment.

 

Your own officials are threatening to sponsor terrorism in Balochistan and the rest of Pakistan? And you are not concerned about that? What a shame.

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29 minutes ago, Finer said:

I just gave you official versions. I mean official version. But you are focused on drama antics which India medias regular provides for TRP entertainment.

 

Your own officials are threatening to sponsor terrorism in Balochistan and the rest of Pakistan? And you are not concerned about that? What a shame.

You fail again in answering my question. 

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