BJP MP Udit Raj set to request Prime Minister to introduce quota system in cricket

[tweaker]

Bharatiya Janata Party’s MP Udit Raj is all set to request Prime Minister Narendra Modi for the introduction of the quota system in cricket such that the Scheduled Tribes and the Scheduled Castes have a special quota to break into the national and state teams.

[tweaker]

One of the main reasons why the MP wants to introduce such a system in cricket is because of its implementation in a country like South Africa. In the month of September, Cricket South Africa introduced a system where a minimum of six black cricketers would be included in South Africa's national team under the new racial quotas. Just like the South Africa cricket team has a racial quota, we also want the same,” he said

 

.The BJP MP clearly feels that if a cricketing body like that of South Africa could successfully implement such a system, India could follow suit. 

[jf1gp_1]

Completely endorse  Udit Raj  views however such radical ideas should first be tried at domestic level. So Mr Raj please first introduce such a lovely thought in IPL i bet most team owners will be trilled to put quota over merit. Once you do it at IPL then by all means introduce it to international level. 

[rtmohanlal]

absolute rubbish.team should be selected only on merit.

[Roshanrocks]

Modi will kick him on his backside..lol

[New guy]

2 minutes ago, Roshanrocks said:

Modi will kick him on his backside..lol

Just like he vetoes the Rs 3600 crore statue plan? Oh wait, he actually inaugurated it

[BeautifulGame]

It will be fun .

[Roshanrocks]

6 minutes ago, New guy said:

Just like he vetoes the Rs 3600 crore statue plan? Oh wait, he actually inaugurated it

Wow.. I didnt know this.. Not Cool Modiji...Not Cool.. We should all get together and kick Modi on his backside..

[Texan]

If there are reservations in educational institutions, reservations in government jobs, even reservations in Parliament, then there might be a case for making reservations in sports too. Make no mistake - I am against this whole caste-based reservation system, it does not benefit the country, it does not benefit the truly oppressed classes, it only benefits some creamy layer so called backward class folks and some politicians who can exploit the caste divide. But introducing reservations in cricket will at least bring all the wrongs about the reservation system into the public domain. A healthy debate on reservations is sorely missing in India because no politician has the guts to tackle this issue. 

[rkt.india]

35 minutes ago, New guy said:

Just like he vetoes the Rs 3600 crore statue plan? Oh wait, he actually inaugurated it

both things are not comparable at all. That statue will make more money for govt than they spent on it as a tourist attraction.

[Cricketics]

As much as I agree with giving a good exposure and spreading the game so that people from all walks of life, regardless of their status can get their deserving chance to make it to the team, I have to say that quota system isn't the right move.

 

I remember going for try outs in one of the clubs in St. Kilda for under 16 players over there. They had a strict rule there that every weekend game will have at least 2 players from aboriginal tribe or people who follow the indigenous culture. I know many parents did not like that idea as their kid would often would have to give their place up for some players who did not deserve etc.

 

Instead of quota system, we need to try to improve the system to get them to the level of players from other big cities.

[tweaker]

Ninety-nine percent of Indian cricketers we know are mostly Brahmins or the other higher castes. Brahmins make up 4% of India’s population but on average, have in excess of 70% representation in the cricket teams. Sunil Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Sourav Ganguly, Vinoo Mankad, Ajit Wadekar, G.R. Vishwanath, EAS Prassana, Ishant Sharma, Chatrhan Sharma, were all of the Brahmin caste. The list is too long to include here but here are a few more; Chandrashakar, Srikanth, Sivaramakrishman, Doshi, Joshi, Rohit Sharma, Prasad, Malhotra, Laxman, Karthik, Sreeshashant, Sardesai, manjrekar, Jaisimha, Rao and Shekar. The rest of the players who were not Brahmins were either Kshatriyas or Vaisyas. These include Kapil Dev, Yuvaraj Singh, Mongia, Jadeja, Chauhan, Bedi and Harbhajan Singh.

Untouchables or Dalits (as they preferred to be called) were generally and still are excluded from the Indian National team. Palwankar Baloo was the first Dalit to play for India and this was since the early 20th century and only at the insistence of some British players .

In all these years of glorious Indian cricket, only two (yes, two) Dalits have ever represented India. Vinod Kambli is supposed to be the other,. The bottom line is although Dalits make up just under 17% of India’s population one can safely say that less than five Dalits were allowed to represent India in cricket.

The question is; what do we call a system which bars a group from participating in national events based on nothing but their birth? How is this different from the apartheid system to which we all objected and had boycotted when it was active in South Africa? Why have we turned a blind eye to this apartheid in India?

Edited December 31, 2016 by tweaker

[chewy]

I endorse it at grass root levels especially outside the major metropolitan areas to a degree

too much discrimination at grassroots level

And makes it worse when coupled with kids from very low income families

[chewy]

1 hour ago, tweaker said:

Ninety-nine percent of Indian cricketers we know are mostly Brahmins or the other higher castes. Brahmins make up 4% of India’s population but on average, have in excess of 70% representation in the cricket teams. Sunil Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Sourav Ganguly, Vinoo Mankad, Ajit Wadekar, G.R. Vishwanath, EAS Prassana, Ishant Sharma, Chatrhan Sharma, were all of the Brahmin caste. The list is too long to include here but here are a few more; Chandrashakar, Srikanth, Sivaramakrishman, Doshi, Joshi, Rohit Sharma, Prasad, Malhotra, Laxman, Karthik, Sreeshashant, Sardesai, manjrekar, Jaisimha, Rao and Shekar. The rest of the players who were not Brahmins were either Kshatriyas or Vaisyas. These include Kapil Dev, Yuvaraj Singh, Mongia, Jadeja, Chauhan, Bedi and Harbhajan Singh.

Untouchables or Dalits (as they preferred to be called) were generally and still are excluded from the Indian National team. Palwankar Baloo was the first Dalit to play for India and this was since the early 20th century and only at the insistence of some British players .

In all these years of glorious Indian cricket, only two (yes, two) Dalits have ever represented India. Vinod Kambli is supposed to be the other,. The bottom line is although Dalits make up just under 17% of India’s population one can safely say that less than five Dalits were allowed to represent India in cricket.

The question is; what do we call a system which bars a group from participating in national events based on nothing but their birth? How is this different from the apartheid system to which we all objected and had boycotted when it was active in South Africa? Why have we turned a blind eye to this apartheid in India?

Not just Dalits and SC and ST, also Muslims and north east region is under represented. Some form of positive discrimination is required to get all included

[chewy]

1 hour ago, Cricketics said:

As much as I agree with giving a good exposure and spreading the game so that people from all walks of life, regardless of their status can get their deserving chance to make it to the team, I have to say that quota system isn't the right move.

 

I remember going for try outs in one of the clubs in St. Kilda for under 16 players over there. They had a strict rule there that every weekend game will have at least 2 players from aboriginal tribe or people who follow the indigenous culture. I know many parents did not like that idea as their kid would often would have to give their place up for some players who did not deserve etc.

 

Instead of quota system, we need to try to improve the system to get them to the level of players from other big cities.

i have experienced the opposite where influential parents or older guys would get their kids or relatives or buddies selected due to nepotism or have a fun day (as buddies) out ignoring someone much more skilled and talented

Edited December 31, 2016 by chewy

[mishra]

Atleast this move will drop few Sharmas from the team. But it has to be implemented everywhere. IPL, Ranji,intrastate etc etc etc

[BeautifulGame]

Ninety-nine percent of Indian cricketers we know are mostly Brahmins or the other higher castes. Brahmins make up 4% of India’s population but on average, have in excess of 70% representation in the cricket teams. Sunil Gavaskar, Ravi Shastri, Anil Kumble, Javagal Srinath, Sachin Tendulkar, Rahul Dravid, Sourav Ganguly, Vinoo Mankad, Ajit Wadekar, G.R. Vishwanath, EAS Prassana, Ishant Sharma, Chatrhan Sharma, were all of the Brahmin caste. The list is too long to include here but here are a few more; Chandrashakar, Srikanth, Sivaramakrishman, Doshi, Joshi, Rohit Sharma, Prasad, Malhotra, Laxman, Karthik, Sreeshashant, Sardesai, manjrekar, Jaisimha, Rao and Shekar. The rest of the players who were not Brahmins were either Kshatriyas or Vaisyas. These include Kapil Dev, Yuvaraj Singh, Mongia, Jadeja, Chauhan, Bedi and Harbhajan Singh.

Untouchables or Dalits (as they preferred to be called) were generally and still are excluded from the Indian National team. Palwankar Baloo was the first Dalit to play for India and this was since the early 20th century and only at the insistence of some British players .

In all these years of glorious Indian cricket, only two (yes, two) Dalits have ever represented India. Vinod Kambli is supposed to be the other,. The bottom line is although Dalits make up just under 17% of India’s population one can safely say that less than five Dalits were allowed to represent India in cricket.

The question is; what do we call a system which bars a group from participating in national events based on nothing but their birth? How is this different from the apartheid system to which we all objected and had boycotted when it was active in South Africa? Why have we turned a blind eye to this apartheid in India?

It's admittedly a big issue in Tamil Nadu for example.We haven't had a single non-brahmin player representing Indian colours despite having less than 4% brahmins .Then when u see the board president ,main selector all from the same community it just confirms the bias.We even had a excellent Tamil moving called "Jeeva" which beautifully exposed the nepotism in the state selection policy .

I am sure similar nepotism exists in most sporting bodies in India (not just cricket) even if not all are solely exclusive to caste .

The biggest problem in state cricket boards is lack of accountability .How many state board presidents or selection committee members have resigned in India because their team failed to win Ranji trophy .They don't care about winning so why would they pick the best available in the first place ?

There is so much talent in the smaller cities /towns/villages in India but the bcci or state boards never care about tapping them in.And this is where the most of the lower middle class or poor is in India .

In Germany, their football association runs football academies every 20 Kms to identify talents and nurture them.We don't even have a single one for every state .Why would they? It's not like their jobs or income is dependent on the performance of the team .

But having quotas isn't the solution.The best solution is the private leagues like IPL and TNPL where selection and opportunities are based on merit because franchises want to win .That's our only solution .

[Detonator]

2 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

It will be fun .

Agree. Imagine how the quota players look like on the field

[express bowling]

Selection to the national cricket team should be based on merit and merit alone.....nothing else.

[Cricketics]

1 hour ago, chewy said:

i have experienced the opposite where influential parents or older guys would get their kids or relatives or buddies selected due to nepotism or have a fun day (as buddies) out ignoring someone much more skilled and talented

Yes, I haven't seen it happen in front of my eyes but it is a very common occurence across different sports and different fields too and in probabaly every country and hemce we hear such news all them. But how is quota system an answer to that. These are like two wrong things. 

 

Quota system will probabaly increase nepotism as many villagers will probably follow the same rule like the educated thugs do. If such system comes in place then you will see people putting ahead the name of the kid of the leader of the panachayat instead of the name of a more deserving kid, whose father does not have any post in the village or panchayat.

 

Quota system is absolute crap. It will just give more people to take advantage of their power.