Md Siraj: Hyderabad Fast bowler

[tweaker]

Siraj looks very raw in the T20 matches he has played. He has wasted the opportunity he got as there are many young bowlers waiting to take his place. 

[Straight Drive]

He does well in IPL and domestic 50 overs. As soon as he gets a chance in T20i or ODI, he goes back to being a run leaking machine. 

 

Whereas on same lines, we see how well Sundar has grabbed the opportunity. 

 

This will be our problem. Our spinners are more quality material. They will adapt to international format much better than our fast bowlers. I mean give 5 spin bowlers from India a chance and 5 pace bowlers a chance. At end of the day more spinners will give better performances than pacers. 

 

 

[tweaker]

20 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

He does well in IPL and domestic 50 overs. As soon as he gets a chance in T20i or ODI, he goes back to being a run leaking machine. 

 

Whereas on same lines, we see how well Sundar has grabbed the opportunity. 

 

This will be our problem. Our spinners are more quality material. They will adapt to international format much better than our fast bowlers. I mean give 5 spin bowlers from India a chance and 5 pace bowlers a chance. At end of the day more spinners will give better performances than pacers. 

 

 

Now most of the bowlers are getting enough exposure by playing in Ipl, A tours. Siraj was also among the bowlers selected as net bowler in SA. 

He has wasted his opportunity to impress the team management 

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, tweaker said:

Now most of the bowlers are getting enough exposure by playing in Ipl, A tours. Siraj was also among the bowlers selected as net bowler in SA. 

He has wasted his opportunity to impress the team management 

experience alone is of no use until you develop the skills to be successful in that particular format.

[Jamadagni]

We are investing in wrong players. These Siraj, Thakur, Thampi, Pant, Iyer, Nair just don't have it in them to make it at this level. That's what happens when the selectors and management don't have the eye for talent. Unfortunately I don't see this trend changing anytime soon. 

[gakgupta]

3 hours ago, Jamadagni said:

We are investing in wrong players. These Siraj, Thakur, Thampi, Pant, Iyer, Nair just don't have it in them to make it at this level. That's what happens when the selectors and management don't have the eye for talent. Unfortunately I don't see this trend changing anytime soon. 

One bloody T20 match on flat sub-continent pitch is used to evalaute the pace bowler...

Siraj is a proper seam bowler....

He is very rare breed....

He should be conserved and safe-guarded and kept away from these useless T20's

he is still raw and learning the trade....but has huge skills

These kind of bowlers will win you a test match outside subcontinent 

[MCcricket]

9 hours ago, Jamadagni said:

We are investing in wrong players. These Siraj, Thakur, Thampi, Pant, Iyer, Nair just don't have it in them to make it at this level. That's what happens when the selectors and management don't have the eye for talent. Unfortunately I don't see this trend changing anytime soon. 

You r wrong there, Thampi has lots of potential, has pace, slingy arm, accurate enuff n can move the ball, selectors need to try youngsters in odi n tests n t20 is the worst format to groom them,Pant has potential but needs time n once he has got the taste of int cricket he knows where he stands n kearns from it.Siraj is playing in the wrong format, he should be tried for tests or odi, he has oace, bounce n bowls some genuine wkt taking balls on any wkt, also has a good action n runup,also he can seam the ball so lots of potential he needs to be groomed mored first class n A tours.

Guys we have wasted resources on are Dhoni, Kartik, Yuvi, Raina, Unadkunt, Shardul n Iyer alsk looks mediocre.

Guys we should look at, Mayank, Samarth, Sarfaraz, Shankar, Gopal, Sundar, Ishan, Aniket, Khalil, Ankit, Sangwan, Saini, Khejroliya, Hooda, Unmukt.

[Straight Drive]

Why is T20 worst format? Just because some players cannot perform in it the format becomes bad. Lot of players have made career in T20. For them this is the best. 

 

Hope the players won't blame the format because they flop. 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Straight Drive

[Straight Drive]

On 17/03/2018 at 1:44 PM, tweaker said:

Now most of the bowlers are getting enough exposure by playing in Ipl, A tours. Siraj was also among the bowlers selected as net bowler in SA. 

He has wasted his opportunity to impress the team management 

Some players lack skills to succeed in a particular format. Siraj has failed in T20. He may do well in other formats. We will only know if he is given a chance in the remaining formats. Chet is good in longer format but very dismal in shorter. Some players have one dimensional game. So there is some hope that Siraj may do well in something else if not suited for T20. Only time will tell. But so far I agree he has not grabbed his opportunity. Sundar has grabbed it with both hands.

[Straight Drive]

20 hours ago, Jamadagni said:

We are investing in wrong players. These Siraj, Thakur, Thampi, Pant, Iyer, Nair just don't have it in them to make it at this level. That's what happens when the selectors and management don't have the eye for talent. Unfortunately I don't see this trend changing anytime soon. 

Out of 10 cricketers the selectors give a chance to, not all 10 will adapt to international level. There is gulf in quality of domestic and internationls and hence only some percentile cricketers manange to perform in international level. Selectors had given youngsters chance, but it is totally up to youngsters to perform. The onus is on them once selected. 

[MCcricket]

34 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Why is T20 worst format? Just because some players cannot perform in it the format becomes bad. Lot of players have made career in T20. For them this is the best. 

 

Hope the players won't blame the format because they flop. 

A bowler gets to bowl 24 balls in T20, n he is a rookie, there is no leeway, chance to comeback, be attacking, bowl the corridor length, only criteria stop boundaries, only in rarest or rare cases you will see someone like Bumrah, also he has a unique action n was ideal for this format.

T20 is a bastar#$4& version of cricket, spinners will bowl flat or darts, you wont see much effort at flighting the ball, turn or inviting the batsmen to drive.

You wont see even one slip most times, mist tracks will be batting paradise with shorter boundaries, the right for at to judge a bowler is a test mtach or odi .

 

[Straight Drive]

14 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

A bowler gets to bowl 24 balls in T20, n he is a rookie, there is no leeway, chance to comeback, be attacking, bowl the corridor length, only criteria stop boundaries, only in rarest or rare cases you will see someone like Bumrah, also he has a unique action n was ideal for this format.

T20 is a bastar#$4& version of cricket, spinners will bowl flat or darts, you wont see much effort at flighting the ball, turn or inviting the batsmen to drive.

You wont see even one slip most times, mist tracks will be batting paradise with shorter boundaries, the right for at to judge a bowler is a test mtach or odi .

 

Problem with Siraj is that he is a run leaking machine. His economy rate is 12 which is worse even in T20. Think a lot of pace bowlers have economy less than 8.  He loses matches with his economy, such bad it is. 

 

A bowler with economy rate of 12 should never be in team as specialist bowler imo.

Edited March 18, 2018 by Straight Drive

[MCcricket]

2 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

Problem with Siraj is that he is a run leaking machine. His economy rate is 12 which is worse even in T20. Think a lot of pace bowlers have economy less than 8.  He loses matches with his economy, such bad it is.

Thats exactly my point a new driver who just git his license, will you ket him test drive a v8 turbo charged, nitro burning dragster or your old Maruti suzuki? What woukd be less overwhelming and a sensible decision?

[Straight Drive]

30 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

Thats exactly my point a new driver who just git his license, will you ket him test drive a v8 turbo charged, nitro burning dragster or your old Maruti suzuki? What woukd be less overwhelming and a sensible decision?

In that analogy he is actually banging the car in each and every test drive. I would not even give him a test drive considering he has spoilt 3 cars so far.

 

There is no excuse for eco rate of 12. It's unacceptable imo.

 

Sundar : eco 5.8

Jasprit : eco 6.86

Kukdeep: eco 7.66

Yuz : eco 8.1

Shardul:  eco 8.38

Jaydev :  eco 8.74

Siraj : eco 12.33

 

 

His eco 12.33 is in a totally higher range where no other Indian bowlers are grouped alongside him.

Edited March 18, 2018 by Straight Drive

[MCcricket]

6 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

In that analogy he is actually banging the car in each and every test drive. I would not even give him a test drive considering he has spoilt 3 cars so far.

 

There is no excuse for eco rate of 12. It's unacceptable imo.

 

 

Plz dont use the term Banging the car, rather use the word wrecking, as that would be a weird innuendo if you know what it coukd mean ,lol.

On a serious note, this lad is a rookie, hasnt played much first class cricket or age group cricket, comes from a very very humbked background to boot,is playing on patta n in tne worst version for bowlers.

Some bowlers like Khalil who has played age group n is exceptional and a left armer to boot might take to th version a bit more easily.

To begin with T20 is a bowlers nightmare, secondly being played in a batting paradise, he is a part of a unexperienced lineup, what r the odds, this is the worst way to nurture or take care of a rookie.

He has a few things going for him, has pace, good action, still raw, has had a good season, has shown good skill sets n variety to his bowling but to translate this in internation cricket n in t20 right away is not a easy task at all, i dont believe we should introduce young bowlers into t20 right away be it spinners or pacers.

 

[Straight Drive]

20 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

Plz dont use the term Banging the car, rather use the word wrecking, as that would be a weird innuendo if you know what it coukd mean ,lol.

On a serious note, this lad is a rookie, hasnt played much first class cricket or age group cricket, comes from a very very humbked background to boot,is playing on patta n in tne worst version for bowlers.

Some bowlers like Khalil who has played age group n is exceptional and a left armer to boot might take to th version a bit more easily.

To begin with T20 is a bowlers nightmare, secondly being played in a batting paradise, he is a part of a unexperienced lineup, what r the odds, this is the worst way to nurture or take care of a rookie.

He has a few things going for him, has pace, good action, still raw, has had a good season, has shown good skill sets n variety to his bowling but to translate this in internation cricket n in t20 right away is not a easy task at all, i dont believe we should introduce young bowlers into t20 right away be it spinners or pacers.

 

At the moment we have lot of bowlers leaking a lot runs less than him. I therefore see no reason why to play a much higher eco rate bowler considering availability of better proven options. 

 

Better options as follows :

 

Sundar : eco 5.8

Jasprit : eco 6.86

Kukdeep: eco 7.66

Yuz : eco 8.1

Shardul:  eco 8.38

Jaydev :  eco 8.74

 

 

Siraj : eco 12.33

 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Straight Drive

[MCcricket]

5 minutes ago, Straight Drive said:

At the moment we have lot of bowlers leaking a lot runs less than him. I therefore see no reason why to play a much higher eco rate bowler considering availability of better proven options. 

 

Better options as follows :

 

Sundar : eco 5.8

Jasprit : eco 6.86

Kukdeep: eco 7.66

Yuz : eco 8.1

Shardul:  eco 8.38

Jaydev :  eco 8.74

 

 

Siraj : eco 12.33

 

I fullh agree he shoukd not be playing or picked up for t20 team, in the long run he coukd be much much better then mediocre Thakur n poor Unadkunt , he should be groomed more n taken to A tours and pkay more donestics.

Guys who shouldve been played before him Aniket, Thampi, Khalil, Sandeep Sharma, Sangwan.

[SecondSlip]

Mediocre club level bowler 

[tweaker]

Siraj should play the final today to make it more interesting. 

[Texy]

super **** trundler