Turnaround of Indian ODI team under Virat's captaincy

[MCcricket]

There were nay sayers he is arrogant, too aggressive, not a good test player, not a cool head, will break the team, but he has shown he is a world beater , very proud of his team's impact n performance not playing to learn n gain experience n process but to WIN, being dynamic n thinking about winning all the time, pushing the limits as a player himself n inspiring his team to do so.

Now few among us are worried about poor selections n yes we have had a history of poor selectors n rarely see pragmatic n mostly pro active selectors n captain as far as building the team n bench.

ODI cricket has changed much more since T20 n it's played differently now it's not about phases oppening start slow n steady, middle overs singles n then last 10 overs slog like Dhonis way of playing , Now it's more a extended T20 game where S/R is paramount, so he will emphasize as a captain as he did in test to rotate strike n here it will be to play aggressively so stagnant n selfish players like Rayudu who plays just to keep his place n not try to up the anti will have to change or will be replaced.

I see a change in our ODI team n new players coming in , we will see a change in the players attitude n way of Playing.

Hopefully this is the last series for Rayudu, Yuvi, Raina, Dhoni, also Dhoni will support his bowlers better n will have more faith in his pacers n you will see them bowling better.

I feel English team will be a challenge but they have been defeated by VIRAT in test n demoralized also Ashwin n Jadeja n somehow K Yadav makes it to the team , they will loose

Rohit

Dhawan / Hooda or someone else as I'm not sure of Dhawan

Rahul

Virat

Pandey

Pant

Ashwin

Pandya

Jadeja / K Yadav

Shami

Aniket/Sangwan/Sran

Will be our team in the future n this is one dynamic combo

[Trichromatic]

Please start writing proper titles for the threads.

[tweaker]

There will be difference in captaincy style of both Dhoni & Virat.

 

Virat will not allow the game to drift away .He will be proactive & will make things happen.

 

Luckily he has inherited a good odi side & if he adds 2-3 good players his side can be a world beater & can win anyhere & against any opposition

[MCcricket]

11 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Please start writing proper titles for the threads.

How can a thought be proper or improper, beginning of an era under Virat n India's journey to great from a mediocre ODI side seems OK?

[MCcricket]

8 minutes ago, tweaker said:

There will be difference in captaincy style of both Dhoni & Virat.

 

Virat will not allow the game to drift away .He will be proactive & will make things happen.

 

Luckily he has inherited a good odi side & if he adds 2-3 good players his side can be a world beater & can win anyhere & against any opposition

No he has not inherited a good side as you look at our records in last two years have been poor and we are playing defensive n old way of ODI cricket , while most teams have changed n evolved we stagnated.

[Ankit_sharma03]

29 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

There were nay sayers he is arrogant, too aggressive, not a good test player, not a cool head, will break the team, but he has shown he is a world beater , very proud of his team's impact n performance not playing to learn n gain experience n process but to WIN, being dynamic n thinking about winning all the time, pushing the limits as a player himself n inspiring his team to do so.

Now few among us are worried about poor selections n yes we have had a history of poor selectors n rarely see pragmatic n mostly pro active selectors n captain as far as building the team n bench.

ODI cricket has changed much more since T20 n it's played differently now it's not about phases oppening start slow n steady, middle overs singles n then last 10 overs slog like Dhonis way of playing , Now it's more a extended T20 game where S/R is paramount, so he will emphasize as a captain as he did in test to rotate strike n here it will be to play aggressively so stagnant n selfish players like Rayudu who plays just to keep his place n not try to up the anti will have to change or will be replaced.

I see a change in our ODI team n new players coming in , we will see a change in the players attitude n way of Playing.

Hopefully this is the last series for Rayudu, Yuvi, Raina, Dhoni, also Dhoni will support his bowlers better n will have more faith in his pacers n you will see them bowling better.

I feel English team will be a challenge but they have been defeated by VIRAT in test n demoralized also Ashwin n Jadeja n somehow K Yadav makes it to the team , they will loose

Rohit

Dhawan / Hooda or someone else as I'm not sure of Dhawan

Rahul

Virat

Pandey

Pant

Ashwin

Pandya

Jadeja / K Yadav

Shami

Aniket/Sangwan/Sran

Will be our team in the future n this is one dynamic combo

There is no turnaround as of yet, let ODi;s begin n sometime pass before passing a judgment

 

Lets not call anyone selfish like raydu- thats his limitation. The guy is a very commited player and its very evident in field

 

Why wud open with hooda and put Pant in middle???? where is bumrah???

Putting YUvi, dhoni n raina in same category......hahahahaha. Raina has developed a paunch and Dhoni has become more fitter. Yuvi drops catches and dhoni does some magic in wk most times. Dhoni consistency is at diff level and yuvi n raina has no relation to that for many yrs now. Dhoni having a dip is very natural and it has happ to most batsman

 

Ashwin at 7, pandya at 8 - this is getting ridiculous 

[tweaker]

7 minutes ago, MCcricket said:

No he has not inherited a good side as you look at our records in last two years have been poor and we are playing defensive n old way of ODI cricket , while most teams have changed n evolved we stagnated.

He has a core of a good team in Rohit,Rahul,Manish,Ashwin,Jadeja,Pandya,Bumrah,Shami,Yadav.

 

We had poor results due to uninspiring captaincy & Dhoni 's reluctance to change the team.

 

Wheras we have seen Kohli changing the players as per the conditions.

 

We may see lot of players loosing their place once we loose under Kohli.Under Dhoni some players were always in the squad  inspite of woeful performance

[MCcricket]

6 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

There is no turnaround as of yet, let ODi;s begin n sometime pass before passing a judgment

 

Lets not call anyone selfish like raydu- thats his limitation. The guy is a very commited player and its very evident in field

 

Why wud open with hooda and put Pant in middle???? where is bumrah???

Putting YUvi, dhoni n raina in same category......hahahahaha. Raina has developed a paunch and Dhoni has become more fitter. Yuvi drops catches and dhoni does some magic in wk most times. Dhoni consistency is at diff level and yuvi n raina has no relation to that for many yrs now. Dhoni having a dip is very natural and it has happ to most batsman

 

Ashwin at 7, pandya at 8 - this is getting ridiculous 

Virats mindset will not change hence the results n way team plays will change, positions are not written in stone and it's just a template, Rayudu is sort of guy who rather stay not out at 40 then try for the extra 10 runs n under Virat he will be found out, if he is limited then also he will be found out.

Dhoni, Yuvi, Raina all had their peak n were good but now are dinosaurs on the field, yes I did not mention  Bumrah n he should be in first as a bowler, Ashwin can hold the batting n in a big chase as if we loose a lot of wkts he can play the role of keeping a decent run rate with less risk n guys like Pandya can give that 20 run over.

People can hope against hope some are Raina fans n some Yuvi n some Dhoni but when time is up it is, these guys have struggled for a very long period n I do that see Dhoni, Yuvi, Raina being half as good as they were n infact a liability.

N fitness is a factor but you cannot change your reflex or game at this stage .

[express bowling]

A lot would depend on the introduction of a couple of new-age high SR batsmen in our ODI team.

 

With Virat, we are going to get pro-active and enthusiastic captaincy with tremendous will to win

 

But the needs of modern ODIs have to be recognized.....and high SR batsmen introduced or developed.  We can't be consistent with a 2011 oriented team composition.

[MCcricket]

1 minute ago, express bowling said:

A lot would depend on the introduction of a couple of new-age high SR batsmen in our ODI team.

 

With Virat, we are going to get pro-active and enthusiastic captaincy with tremendous will to win

 

But the needs of modern ODIs have to be recognized.....and high SR batsmen introduced or developed.  We can't be consistent with a 2011 oriented team composition.

Exactly but seems like we have swapped places n have improved in tests under Virats in Outlook n performance but have stagnated as a ODI team n selectors n captain don't understand the requirements of modern ODI cricket n I'm confident Virat will do it but don't trust selectors.

[jusarrived]

No , we may win a few but this is not the squad which can win consistently . Compare the quality of players we had ~2011 WC , this set of players is not half good even potentially . The lower middle order looks extremely weak .

[Lannister]

It mostly depends on Rahul's form that how we will perform with the current squad. The team structure need to change where in the past we had only two reliable batsmen in Rohit and Kohli. All the batsmen should be capable of contributing and show some consistency. It will be an exciting series going against the most dynamic team in England. 

Edited January 11, 2017 by Lannister

[Austin 3:!6]

We have to wait and see how it goes. Didn't quite like it when he captained us in Asia Cup 2014 as he looked over excited. Costed us the Pakistan game by giving last over to a spinner. Afridi could have never hit that 2 sixes in last over if MS Dhoni was our captain.

 

Having said that a lot has changed since. Virat is now an experienced test captain and got a much calm personality. Hope he does well.

[Laaloo]

16 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

We have to wait and see how it goes. Didn't quite like it when he captained us in Asia Cup 2014 as he looked over excited. Costed us the Pakistan game by giving last over to a spinner. Afridi could have never hit that 2 sixes in last over if MS Dhoni was our captain.

 

Having said that a lot has changed since. Virat is now an experienced test captain and got a much calm personality. Hope he does well.

If Dhoni was captain, Pakistan would have won well before the last over

[Austin 3:!6]

4 minutes ago, laaloo said:

If Dhoni was captain, Pakistan would have won well before the last over

Dhonikonda would have chocked them like we did in Mohali 2011.

[New guy]

15 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Dhonikonda would have chocked them like we did in Mohali 2011.

You do realize world cup is different and they have choked every single time regArdless of venue or captain 

[maniac]

50 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

We have to wait and see how it goes. Didn't quite like it when he captained us in Asia Cup 2014 as he looked over excited. Costed us the Pakistan game by giving last over to a spinner. Afridi could have never hit that 2 sixes in last over if MS Dhoni was our captain.

 

Having said that a lot has changed since. Virat is now an experienced test captain and got a much calm personality. Hope he does well.

I thought he captained brilliantly that game...no useless part timers....all specialist bowlers attacked from ball 1 to pull back the game....if it wasn't for those fluky 6's by Afridi,he could have pulled it off.....In fact I opened the thread and people agreed how brilliant his captaincy was in that game.

[Austin 3:!6]

17 minutes ago, New guy said:

You do realize world cup is different and they have choked every single time regArdless of venue or captain 

Its not only Pakistan, I just gave that as an example. I have no doubt India would have won that game under Dhoni though. He has done it many many times in ODI cricket where he won us from impossible position. Let it be giving last over to Joginder Sharma and win us T20 WC, that last over against BD where in that pressure situation he kept his calm and replaced Dhawan with Jadeja in deep mid wicket who took a stunner to dismiss Mahmudullah. List goes on and on.

 

In test cricket you need aggressive skippers, proper strategy and Kohli fits into scheme of things perfectly. ODIs are completely different ball game where you need street smart and on the spot tactics. There is no luxury of sitting with coach to discuss at the end of days play and implement it on the next day in ODI cricket.

 

Kohli is bit like Rahul Dravid as far as captaincy is concerned. He will be a great test skipper but not entirely sure about LOIs. There is a reason RCB never won a single IPL.

 

 

 

Edited January 11, 2017 by Austin 3:!6

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Its not only Pakistan, I just gave that as an example. I have no doubt India would have won that game under Dhoni though. He has done it many many times in ODI cricket where he won us from impossible position. Let it be giving last over to Joginder Sharma and win us T20 WC, that last over against BD where in that pressure situation he kept his calm and replaced Dhawan with Jadeja in deep mid wicket who took a stunner to dismiss Mahmudullah. List goes on and on.

 

In test cricket you need aggressive skippers, proper strategy and Kohli fits into scheme of things perfectly. ODIs are completely different ball game where you need street smart and on the spot tactics. There is no luxury of sitting with coach to discuss at the end of days play and implement it on the next day in ODI cricket.

 

Kohli is bit like Rahul Dravid as far as captaincy is concerned. He will be a great test skipper but not entirely sure about LOIs. There is a reason RCB never won a single IPL.

 

 

 

Giving an over to Joginder was not a master stroke....it was lack of options....probably a big fluke......Misbah actually won us the game more than Jogi or Dhoni  

 

Also he didn't pick Jogi to bowl over bhajji...it was bhajji who had 2nd thoughts to bowl the last over.

 

 

[Laaloo]

10 minutes ago, Austin 3:!6 said:

Its not only Pakistan, I just gave that as an example. I have no doubt India would have won that game under Dhoni though. He has done it many many times in ODI cricket where he won us from impossible position. Let it be giving last over to Joginder Sharma and win us T20 WC, that last over against BD where in that pressure situation he kept his calm and replaced Dhawan with Jadeja in deep mid wicket who took a stunner to dismiss Mahmudullah. List goes on and on.

 

In test cricket you need aggressive skippers, proper strategy and Kohli fits into scheme of things perfectly. ODIs are completely different ball game where you need street smart and on the spot tactics. There is no luxury of sitting with coach to discuss at the end of days play and implement it on the next day in ODI cricket.

 

Kohli is bit like Rahul Dravid as far as captaincy is concerned. He will be a great test skipper but not entirely sure about LOIs. There is a reason RCB never won a single IPL.

 

 

 

Funny an aggressive captain would have won the warm up match yesterday. Taking off Kuldeep  and bowling part timers and lesser bowlers to new batsman at the crease. Street smart indeed