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List of talented, young fast bowlers with pace in India

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Best fast bowler in our country right now is Shami.Umesh,Ishant,BK,Bumrah are other leading seam

bowlers right now.Seam bowling allrounder Hardik is also sharp,can bowl 140+ when he wants to.But

besides them there are some other talented fast bowlers in the country right now.

1)Varun Aaron (Fast) (Fastest Indian bowler with intl. exp)

2)Shardul Thakur (Fast med) (skillfull,137-142k at his best)

3)Nathu Singh (pacy,skiddy,he's 140-145ks at his peak)

4)Ankit Rajpoot (tall,quick bowler.Very promising,his fastest till now is 147-148ks till now)

5)Rahul Shukla (Strong,hit the deck bowler,can bowl upto high 140s)

6)Mohd Siraj (Tall,sharp..looked faster than what he clocked,very good FC performance in this season)

7)Aniket Chowdhury (Tall,only decent left ar seamer right now,selected in the India A squad)

8)Basil Thampi (Pacy,clocking 140-145ks in domestic speedguns,looks a complete LOI bowler,only 23)

9)Sandeep Warrier (Skiddy,bowling 137-140ks in domestic speedguns,looks pretty sharp,as done well for Kerala)

10)Pradeep Sangwan (Has improved his pace,decent left arm seamer,can also bat)

Pawan Suyal was very impressive but has faded away with injuries.Avesh Khan,Navdeep Saini,Ravi Kiran,

Chama Milind and Sran are also in contention but they will not be in my list of 10 for now.Any other bowlers young

bowler with pace,potential I've missed?I've not considered mediocre Sid Kaul or any other tried and tested failures.

Only bowlers with feasible chance of representing the nation have been considered.

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1 minute ago, express bowling said:

Basil Thampi, Shardul Thakur and Nathu Singh are ready for international cricket IMHO.

 

Thampi and Nathu for LOIs and  Shardul for tests.

Shardul is slower than other two.I rate Thampi slightly higher than Nathu for LOIs.

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1 minute ago, ShebbySB said:

Shardul is slower than other two.I rate Thampi slightly higher than Nathu for LOIs.

Shardul bowls 130 k to 141 k in 4-day FC matches....he should be able to bowl 134 k to 145 k in tests, which is good enough for a skilled bowler like him.

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4 minutes ago, ShebbySB said:

Aaron clocked 153.5 kph on domestic speedguns. :giggle:

That was an one-off ball and most deliveries he was bowling were  under 150 k.....but just imagine how quick he was bowling before his injury

 

After his injury,  the fastest I saw Aaron bowl was 133 k to 147 k in domestic cricket when he was bowling 138 k to 151 k in  internationals

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5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Not even Umesh or Shami could bowl 138 k to 144 k  under domestic speed guns  like Thampi has done.

yes, i saw one Vijay hazare game where Shami played. He was barely going over 138K.

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2 minutes ago, ShebbySB said:

Aaron clocked 153.5 kph on domestic speedguns. :giggle:

Yes sometimes the domestic speedguns get it right, the batters looked like they were afraid for their lives.

From the bowlers list I see most potential in test with

Aniket

Nathu

Warrier

Rajpoot

For ODI

Thampi

Sangwan

Aaron

For T20

Thampi

Sangwan

I am not a big fan of S Thakur at all, also hopefully N Saini is the taller faster version of BK so let's see him bowl

Suyal is not injured had one injury and has comeback well and not lost his pace was very good bowler for Delhi and was topping Ranji charts before that, but G Gambhir does not pick him , hopefully he switches to Uttaranchal, Chattisgarh or some other team to show what he's got

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1 minute ago, MCcricket said:

Yes sometimes the domestic speedguns get it right, the batters looked like they were afraid for their lives.

From the bowlers list I see most potential in test with

Aniket

Nathu

Warrier

Rajpoot

For ODI

Thampi

Sangwan

Aaron

For T20

Thampi

Sangwan

I am not a big fan of S Thakur at all, also hopefully N Saini is the taller faster version of BK so let's see him bowl

Suyal is not injured had one injury and has comeback well and not lost his pace was very good bowler for Delhi and was topping Ranji charts before that, but G Gambhir does not pick him , hopefully he switches to Uttaranchal, Chattisgarh or some other team to show what he's got

Slower than before...needs to get his mojo back.

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I saw the india west indies test match at wankhade ..saw shammi bowling his skidding high pace bowls and he clean bowled a few west indies batsman.

3 out of his 6 balls were higher then 140k and these 3 balls beat the batsman like any thing ..entire team behaved as if the wicket would just have gone.. I saw this match from the stadium.

shammi was just too good ...was seriously scaring the batsman not for hurting the batsman but for getting the batsman Out.

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Also I will include Barinder Sran.

 

Even among all the youngsters, I just hope we get Aaron in soon and provide him with appropriate rest when needed and handle him with care. The guy needs to be given a long run. He has already played and knows what it is like to play at international cricket, so among all, he is the one I am most excited about seeing play for India soon again.

 

They should organize a tournament like challenger trophy now in off season with India A, B and senior team.

 

Put Thampi, Aaron and Sran in one team

Put Rajpoot, Thakur and Siraj in one team

Put Nathu, Warrior and Sangwan in one team.

 

These are good bowling attacks. It was be good to see how the trio of Aaron, Thampi and Sran do together. We have a good pool of fast bowlers, just need to give them time and confidence. 

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20 minutes ago, speedheat said:

That Rajput guy is really fast and please sangwan is washed out waste I don't want to see him, what happened to Rahul shukla??

Bk bumrah thampi shami should be our LOi attack outside india

Says who, have you seen him bowl recently, he is right age and experience to be inducted , can bat, is a left armers and bowls heavy ball and good channels, more suited for longer format

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Says who, have you seen him bowl recently, he is right age and experience to be inducted , can bat, is a left armers and bowls heavy ball and good channels, more suited for longer format

OK did he increased his pace?? Can he bowl yorkers?? Can he outswing to lefthander?? I have seen him bowl in that pink ball test match didn't looked as impressive as you're suggesting he was a 130k trundler when he debuted he might have improved to be 135k trundler yes he might be bowling in good channels but he's never international material its not 90s we are now blessed with far many batter bowlers then sangwan

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12 minutes ago, speedheat said:

OK did he increased his pace?? Can he bowl yorkers?? Can he outswing to lefthander?? I have seen him bowl in that pink ball test match didn't looked as impressive as you're suggesting he was a 130k trundler when he debuted he might have improved to be 135k trundler yes he might be bowling in good channels but he's never international material its not 90s we are now blessed with far many batter bowlers then sangwan

yes, he bowled up to 141K in Duleep trophy.

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1 hour ago, Sidhoni said:

Shami Ishant Bhuvi Yadav Bumrah Kulkarni Nehra Sran

 

Those our 8 fast bowlers which our selectors believe are the best we have. In subcontinent where we play 2 pacers in the 11 especially now with Pandya as third seamer, how will these new bowlers mentioned here get chances?

 

Pacers have to be considered format wise

 

Tests --

Already there --  Shami, Umesh, Ishant, Bhuvi, Shardul .

Have potential -- Aaron ( bowled well on last A tour ),   Aniket 

 

ODIs -- 

Already there -- Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh

Have potential --  Basil Thampi, Nathu Singh  ( Shami is rested and these 2 can easily replace Umesh ) , Sran

 

T20Is --

Already there -- Bumrah,  Bhuvi, Nehra

Have potential --  Basil Thampi, Nathu Singh  ( these 2 can easily play in place of the aged Nehra ) ,

 

 

Places open up when we play more pacers outside Asia and also because of resting pacers and injuries to pacers.

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Pacers have to be considered format wise

 

Tests --

Already there --  Shami, Umesh, Ishant, Bhuvi, Shardul .

Have potential -- Aaron ( bowled well on last A tour ),   Aniket 

 

ODIs -- 

Already there -- Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh

Have potential --  Basil Thampi, Nathu Singh  ( Shami is rested and these 2 can easily replace Umesh ) , Sran

 

T20Is --

Already there -- Bumrah,  Bhuvi, Nehra

Have potential --  Basil Thampi, Nathu Singh  ( these 2 can easily play in place of the aged Nehra ) ,

 

 

Places open up when we play more pacers outside Asia and also because of resting pacers and injuries to pacers.

The new bowlers will help us in creating a pool and we can manage workload of our frontline pacers in a better way.

 

But will they get in the first 11 on a regular basis in meaningful matches? Outside Asia in T20 as Nehra is on his last leg 2 slots might open up one of which will go to Bhuvi. So that is one slot. But then how many T20s do we play outside SC anyway?

 

In LOIs, the emergence of Pandya means we may go in with only 2 specialist pacers and two from Ashwin/Jadeja/Mishra. If Pandya happens to play and do well in tests as well, the chances of these guys getting a look in are slim.

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4 minutes ago, Sidhoni said:

The new bowlers will help us in creating a pool and we can manage workload of our frontline pacers in a better way.

 

But will they get in the first 11 on a regular basis in meaningful matches? Outside Asia in T20 as Nehra is on his last leg 2 slots might open up one of which will go to Bhuvi. So that is one slot. But then how many T20s do we play outside SC anyway?

 

In LOIs, the emergence of Pandya means we may go in with only 2 specialist pacers and two from Ashwin/Jadeja/Mishra. If Pandya happens to play and do well in tests as well, the chances of these guys getting a look in are slim.

 

Anyone new getting in test matches maybe difficult for the time being

 

With 5 front-line pacers already chosen, even with 2 injuries, we still have 3 to play outside Asia.  One thing might happen though.....in case both Shami and Umesh are injured, the team management might bring in Aaron to introduce some genuine pace  ( Both Ganguly and Laxman were discussing this aspect ).

 

The best area to introduce new seamers will be ODIs. We play quite a few....Shami is mostly rested.   While playing outside Asia, we may choose 4 pacers and  Bumrah, Bhuvi, Thampi and Pandya may end up playing on certain pitches.

 

Also, we have seen both Umesh and Nehra being preferred over Bhuvi in many LOI matches....and if Thampi captures the imagination of the captain and coach then we might see Bumrah, Thampi and Pandya playing as the 3 seamers.

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1 hour ago, express bowling said:

 

Pacers have to be considered format wise

 

Tests --

Already there --  Shami, Umesh, Ishant, Bhuvi, Shardul .

Have potential -- Aaron ( bowled well on last A tour ),   Aniket 

 

ODIs -- 

Already there -- Bumrah, Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh

Have potential --  Basil Thampi, Nathu Singh  ( Shami is rested and these 2 can easily replace Umesh ) , Sran

 

T20Is --

Already there -- Bumrah,  Bhuvi, Nehra

Have potential --  Basil Thampi, Nathu Singh  ( these 2 can easily play in place of the aged Nehra ) ,

 

 

Places open up when we play more pacers outside Asia and also because of resting pacers and injuries to pacers.

 

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1 minute ago, express bowling said:

 

Anyone new getting in test matches maybe difficult for the time being

 

With 5 front-line pacers already chosen, even with 2 injuries, we still have 3 to play outside Asia.  One thing might happen though.....in case both Shami and Umesh are injured, the team management might bring in Aaron to introduce some genuine pace  ( Both Ganguly and Laxman were discussing this aspect ).

 

The best area to introduce new seamers will be ODIs. We play quite a few....Shami is mostly rested.   While playing outside Asia, we may choose 4 pacers and  Bumrah, Bhuvi, Thampi and Pandya may end up playing on certain pitches.

 

Also, we have seen both Umesh and Nehra being preferred over Bhuvi in many LOI matches....and if Thampi captures the imagination of the captain and coach then we might see Bumrah, Thampi and Pandya playing as the 3 seamers.

Agreed with all that you said. That means basically only one slot is open across formats which according to you Thampi should seal. Rest will have to keep playing A tours/Ranji/IPL etc etc. As unfortunate as it may sound, most of these names may not ever play for India. Especially with selectors picking Dinda in A team.

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11 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

 

   Somehow my gut feel says that Shami will not last long enough . Injury prone and also heard is a very lazy fellow. 

   So better to use him test and sparingly in 50 overs only . No T20 for him. 

 When fit too valuable in tests.

 

That should open up few chances for new guys in 50 overs & T20

 

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7 minutes ago, Sidhoni said:

Agreed with all that you said. That means basically only one slot is open across formats which according to you Thampi should seal. Rest will have to keep playing A tours/Ranji/IPL etc etc. As unfortunate as it may sound, most of these names may not ever play for India. Especially with selectors picking Dinda in A team.

likes of Nathu, Ankit, Warrier have time on their side and can certainly play for India in future. Warrier has been really impressiv. Needs to get him in A tours and then overseas tours of India, ASAP.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

   Somehow my gut feel says that Shami will not last long enough . Injury prone and also heard is a very lazy fellow. 

   So better to use him test and sparingly in 50 overs only . No T20 for him. 

 When fit too valuable in tests.

 

That should open up few chances for new guys in 50 overs & T20

 

I have heard that he bowls 140 even in the last session and practices by bowling and working on the ball over and over. I think he is a guy who will be effective even if he becomes medium pacer at 135k.

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Thampi looks the most impressive so far....from what I have seen so far,he seems to be a thinking bowler.

 

We always seem to bowlers who will bowl in the same place robotically over and over in helpful conditions and pick loads of wickets or the ones with pace will just hurl the ball at their fastest like a discuss throw competition without any accuracy or brains

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31 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

likes of Nathu, Ankit, Warrier have time on their side and can certainly play for India in future. Warrier has been really impressiv. Needs to get him in A tours and then overseas tours of India, ASAP.

 

 

That's the key. So far we've already had Dinda, Nehra and Vinay in A teams.

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57 minutes ago, Sidhoni said:

Agreed with all that you said. That means basically only one slot is open across formats which according to you Thampi should seal. Rest will have to keep playing A tours/Ranji/IPL etc etc. As unfortunate as it may sound, most of these names may not ever play for India. Especially with selectors picking Dinda in A team.

As of today, yes.  But the younger ones might get in after one to two  years as older guys may lose form

 

They need A team exposure.

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31 minutes ago, Mosher said:

Why is Nathu not in the India A squads? He did well in Duleep trophy but is being ignored for India A.

I find this very strange

 

Nathu did well in the last Deodhar Trophy,  had an excellent SMA Trophy in 2016 and did very well in List A too.

 

Someone with his pace and skills should be an automatic choice in A teams, especially for the one day matches and even for the longer games.

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41 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Nathu,Ankit and Thambi, exciting wonder who will break through.

Warrier is there who too was hitting 140 but was looking quicker with extra bounce. He was really impressive in today's game. Keeper was standing at 22-25 yards back and was still taking the ball head height.

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