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1 hour ago, rkt.india said:

wholeheartedly agree

Why? This type of state controlling every affair is one of trademark of socialist state. This only lead to corruption. First how will Govt count how much is spent on wedding? Gold , different functions , clothes , catering. .Will Govt ask people to submit bills of all of these ? How will Govt count no. of guests 

 

This type of bill will lead to unneccessary harrassment , payments in cash and bribes to Govt officials.

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If its large scale wedding is huge there is complete traffic jam. And that too unusually big queue. Still dont know how government can tax but it can make a case.

 

Also, I can understand that some section of society who spends freely, pays disproportionately low taxes and holds earnings in hard cash will come out against a wedding tax proposal. Same group  were up in arms against Notebandi too

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I can't understand how spending the money you have earned for buying something or engaging someone's services to do a task can be called "wastage" of money.

 

The money you pay for the catering goes to the catering workers who prepare the food and serve it during the wedding. The money you pay to rent the wedding hall goes to the people who work there and sustains their families. How is the money "wasted"?

 

Regarding taxes, the government first needs to come up with ways to make people declare their real income and tax the income properly. These populist measures ala Robin Hood to take from the rich and give it to the poor might earn claps and whistles from the commoner but won't do anything to solve the crux of the problem. How people spend their hard earned money is none of the government's business, unless of course if the money is used for illegal activity.

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3 hours ago, mishra said:

If its large scale wedding is huge there is complete traffic jam. And that too unusually big queue. Still dont know how government can tax but it can make a case.

 

Also, I can understand that some section of society who spends freely, pays disproportionately low taxes and holds earnings in hard cash will come out against a wedding tax proposal. Same group  were up in arms against Notebandi too

Such bakwaaas.  If you have issue with traffic jam, have laws and enforcement of existing laws to make sure private parties don't create public nuisance.  You don't need to count number of plates in a wedding buffet to prevent traffic jams.   

 

And the 2nd part of your post is rampant classism.   Not all those who spend big on weddings are tax-evading thieves.  

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I never got a chance to sneak into a big fat Indian wedding without being invited or being related to anyone.

 

It is my dream to go back home and enter a big fat Indian wedding and try all the food and leave doing Namastes and also drop a sagan of $ and saying thank you. 

Hopefully one day. 

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33 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

I never got a chance to sneak into a big fat Indian wedding without being invited or being related to anyone.

 

It is my dream to go back home and enter a big fat Indian wedding and try all the food and leave doing Namastes. 

 

Hopefully one day. 

What a loser

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5 hours ago, moniker said:

I can't understand how spending the money you have earned for buying something or engaging someone's services to do a task can be called "wastage" of money.

 

The money you pay for the catering goes to the catering workers who prepare the food and serve it during the wedding. The money you pay to rent the wedding hall goes to the people who work there and sustains their families. How is the money "wasted"?

 

Regarding taxes, the government first needs to come up with ways to make people declare their real income and tax the income properly. These populist measures ala Robin Hood to take from the rich and give it to the poor might earn claps and whistles from the commoner but won't do anything to solve the crux of the problem. How people spend their hard earned money is none of the government's business, unless of course if the money is used for illegal activity.

most indians are not modern economically. They still see it as a goal to 'save money'. They don't see it as 'you make money by spending money, aka investments, property development projects, etc'. Thats the problem.

 

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16 hours ago, sandeep said:

Such bakwaaas.  If you have issue with traffic jam, have laws and enforcement of existing laws to make sure private parties don't create public nuisance.  You don't need to count number of plates in a wedding buffet to prevent traffic jams.   

 

And the 2nd part of your post is rampant classism.   Not all those who spend big on weddings are tax-evading thieves.  

Which law or law enforcement has balls to stops bridegrooms horse and band? India neither has will, resources or money to do that.

 

This is a indirect tax measure. If youvan spend filthy on a wedding more likely then not filth is coming from unaccounted money

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2 hours ago, mishra said:

Which law or law enforcement has balls to stops bridegrooms horse and band? India neither has will, resources or money to do that.

 

This is a indirect tax measure. If youvan spend filthy on a wedding more likely then not filth is coming from unaccounted money

This is economic fundamentalism of the mullah kind.  No surprise.  there's a significant chunk of the sub-continent population susceptible to such thinking.  Pakistan is exhibit A for that.  And surprise, suprise - that country already has such a law on the books.  

 

Hindu/Atheistic Fundoos are indeed the mirror image of the Pakistan founding muslim league.  Only thing that separates them is the religious color that designates their "tribe'.  

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On 2/18/2017 at 5:46 PM, mishra said:

Which law or law enforcement has balls to stops bridegrooms horse and band? India neither has will, resources or money to do that.

 

This is a indirect tax measure. If youvan spend filthy on a wedding more likely then not filth is coming from unaccounted money

Weddings are an industry in India today. Putting a cap on the spending is going to affect many ancillary industries like catering, decoration, hotels and lodges, card printers etc.

 

People could end up losing their jobs. I do not see any good coming of this move at all. For anyone.

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On 18/02/2017 at 1:57 AM, Cricketics said:

I never got a chance to sneak into a big fat Indian wedding without being invited or being related to anyone.

 

It is my dream to go back home and enter a big fat Indian wedding and try all the food and leave doing Namastes and also drop a sagan of $ and saying thank you. 

Hopefully one day. 

I have been treated with wide range of culinary delights in every Indian wedding I was invited to. Even before the dinner begins we get massive variety of chaats and starters, I would end up having so many chaats that I would skip dinner completely and wait for desserts which again has huge variety.

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This some merit for people like gali janardhan reddy. Google it. He spent 100 crores.The thing is IT raided his houses but couldn't find jack. No one knows where the source of income is in this situations.

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This some merit for people like gali janardhan reddy. Google it. He spent 100 crores.The thing is IT raided his houses but couldn't find jack. No one knows where the source of income is in this situations.

There is merit in the IT department going after him to declare the source of the money, that is if they have the balls to do it. The money is probably sourced from foreign accounts. It's pretty convenient for the IT folks to just raided his houses and then wash their hands off the case when they can't find anything.

 

This roundabout way of taxing the wedding doesn't do anything to uncover the source. At least the money is coming out and being contributed to the industry instead of being stashed somewhere.

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On 18/02/2017 at 2:51 PM, sandeep said:

This is economic fundamentalism of the mullah kind.  No surprise.  there's a significant chunk of the sub-continent population susceptible to such thinking.  Pakistan is exhibit A for that.  And surprise, suprise - that country already has such a law on the books.  

 

Hindu/Atheistic Fundoos are indeed the mirror image of the Pakistan founding muslim league.  Only thing that separates them is the religious color that designates their "tribe'.  

So you cant make a case then so come up with logic this is bad law because it is also a law in Pakistan. How a discussion about taxation measure in India which is wrt filth spending of black money is down to your bullshit secularism. Only People like Laloo Yadav and Owaisi manage to find such bullshit of sickularism in every thing.

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20 hours ago, Mariyam said:

Weddings are an industry in India today. Putting a cap on the spending is going to affect many ancillary industries like catering, decoration, hotels and lodges, card printers etc.

 

People could end up losing their jobs. I do not see any good coming of this move at all. For anyone.

Mariyam point taken. IMO there is a amount over which if people can spend then they can also pay taxes. Any taxation may decrease the scope of economic activity in a particular area but at the same time it gives government ability to spend the same money somewhere else.

 

People In India are used to corrupt governments and distrust has grown so much that any new move is always viewed with suspicion. Government must win the war of image and trust

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24 minutes ago, mishra said:

Mariyam point taken. IMO there is a amount over which if people can spend then they can also pay taxes. Any taxation may decrease the scope of economic activity in a particular area but at the same time it gives government ability to spend the same money somewhere else.

 

People In India are used to corrupt governments and distrust has grown so much that any new move is always viewed with suspicion. Government must win the war of image and trust

Sorry, but that is ass backwards. Govt. should not over-do taxing directly from the base. Because that pisses people off and puts people in the 'hoard money' mentality. Money doesn't grow by hoarding. What government needs to do, is tax services- so apply GST to every transaction and collect. This hides the cost to the user and generates a far more steady stream of income at the expense of maybe getting less money.

 

Oh and govt. won't win war on image and trust without delivering justice to the nation. India's disconnect with rest of the world,it seems is that most of the rest of the world who've been to India/are formerly Indian, note, is its lack of justice system. That means poor policing, poor court case timelines, poor evidence-handling. And most Indians tend to not think it is the #1 problem. 

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On 2/18/2017 at 6:43 AM, Muloghonto said:

most indians are not modern economically. They still see it as a goal to 'save money'. They don't see it as 'you make money by spending money, aka investments, property development projects, etc'. Thats the problem.

 

This is confusing.

 

People buy property and invest in the stock market with the money that they have saved. Unless there is substantial saving, how would people even be able to buy property?

 

Why are Indians economically backward??

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4 hours ago, mishra said:

So you cant make a case then so come up with logic this is bad law because it is also a law in Pakistan. How a discussion about taxation measure in India which is wrt filth spending of black money is down to your bullshit secularism. Only People like Laloo Yadav and Owaisi manage to find such bullshit of sickularism in every thing.

Regardless of whether Pak has a law or not, Mishra bhai, what you are being sucked into is a silly idea.  If you want to support consumption tax, I'm not at all against that.  That would apply to all expenses by the 'super-rich', black or white.  Why pick on weddings?    Its silly.  I'm all for going after black money, but the method has to be logical, not reactive and poorly thought-out. 

 

And where does "secularism" enter this discussion?  My view of this is that its poor economics and empty-vessel chest-thumping to advocate such foolishness - and it is economic fundamentalism - i.e. slavish advocacy and adherence to ideas without understanding them fully.  

 

But if you have to resort to straw man arguments, and personal insults to respond, then it says more about you, than the subject at hand.  

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