They are scarred. Will they come back?

[rkt.india]

Big scars to our batsmen by Steve O'Keefe. He did a Monty-Jadeja. Just kept putting the ball on good length at a high pace and natural variations of the pitch did the rest. They kept playing for spin and he kept hitting pads on deliveries that didn't turn. This is the best recipe for success on such pitches. You don't need to be Warne or Murli. Monty did this to us in 2012. Jadeja is doing the same for us since his debut. And now O'Keefe used the same formula.

 

We will need a patta to put O'Keefe back in his place and please Indian batsmen dont play for turn when you face him, just take off stump guard and play him like an inswing bowler.

Edited February 25, 2017 by rkt.india

[kubrickian]

Yeah if the ball turns, it will miss the bat and stumps anyway. You just have to play for the one that doesnt turn.

[CG]

Prepare good tracks India will win comfortably ,Prepare rank turners its gives opp a chance.

[fineleg]

Yea @rkt.india I dont know what you were smoking when you said we can chase 350 (we = this indian team with this batsmen).

And of course, the arsenic guy @Cricketics was going on and on how about "how we can rally and chase"

 

LOL, I told ya (in the other thread). Now you think they will change offstump guard bla bla, dream on.

We have a Sri Lanka tour later this year???

Edited February 25, 2017 by fineleg

[Late Cut]

This was a tactical loss. Dropping/missing 10 plus chances will always result in a loss. Jayant and Ishant both need to go. A pitch like this also neutralizes the variance in spinner ability.

[Yoda-esque]

No..

 

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[WC2011INDIA]

No. Australia will win the series.

[philcric]

1 hour ago, fineleg said:

Yea @rkt.india I dont know what you were smoking when you said we can chase 350 (we = this indian team with this batsmen).

And of course, the arsenic guy @Cricketics was going on and on how about "how we can rally and chase"

 

LOL, I told ya (in the other thread). Now you think they will change offstump guard bla bla, dream on.

We have a Sri Lanka tour later this year???

Weren't you one of those who wanted spinning minefields?

 

[speedheat]

No don't think they are scarred knowing kohli who is mentally strong will inspire our lads but not having proper left hander to counter o coffee was blow to us and pitches on the remaining matches won't give such a frightening turns as this one

[Laaloo]

1 hour ago, WC2011INDIA said:

No. Australia will win the series.

Thank you. Now India surely will come back. ;)

[express bowling]

The main thing is not to panic after this loss and not to make drastic changes to either the team composition or the team strategy.  They have worked well  for us in the last 6 test series.  Just address the issues if any and play normally in the next test match with a clear mind.

 

The issues that need addressing are

• Practice batting against spin in the nets with extra importance. Practice playing Jadeja a lot more, both his arm balls and spinners. Create artificial roughs on one practice pitch.
• Practice catching a lot, especially close-in catching and create specialists for key catching positions.
• Kumble needs to give a clear guideline to the players on how to  take reviews logically.
• Not wanting a raging turner.  We have done well on flattish tracks and we need to stick with that.
• Stick to the basics of test cricket like we were doing mostly in the last few test series.

Edited February 25, 2017 by express bowling

[Pollack]

Yes We Can. We'll make India great again

[CG]

Kohli win the toss ,We have been losing lot of tosses lately.

[BeautifulGame]

I think we should go back to wickets which were like England series .Turn but not extreme to expose ourselves .

 

Still fully confident we will win the series .More than batting which was an off day , what we need to fix is our fielding .That just demoralizes the whole team.

[Ankit_sharma03]

I dnt know about our team. But this win wil give Aussie batsman world of confidence that they can bat at any surface now and specially better if given better surface which will be the case in next few test. 

[Cricketics]

7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

I dnt know about our team. But this win wil give Aussie batsman world of confidence that they can bat at any surface now and specially better if given better surface which will be the case in next few test. 

Regardless of that we should be still favorites if we bat well.

 

Just win one toss and put on a 400 plus acore and it will do them world of good and will bring their confidence back. 

 

Need bit of luck now with the toss next game. Also just bat little conservatively.

 

Since players are short of runs, need to bat more straight bat until they find their confidence back. 

[rkt.india]

8 hours ago, BeautifulGame said:

I think we should go back to wickets which were like England series .Turn but not extreme to expose ourselves .

 

Still fully confident we will win the series .More than batting which was an off day , what we need to fix is our fielding .That just demoralizes the whole team.

We must admit Lyon and O'Keefe are better than whatever we had to face from SA, England, NZ, BD.

[BeautifulGame]

We must admit Lyon and O'Keefe are better than whatever we had to face from SA, England, NZ, BD.

 

Yes O'Keefe looks good and an Aussie version of Jadeja but I still don't rate Lyon much tbh.

 

Definitely looks the best bowling attack we have faced this season.

[latenightbat]

I love how much of the responses refer to how the authorities need to prepare a different kind of pitch (aka less of a raging turner).  The result was karma for a cricketing board/team/fanbase that advocates pitch doctoring which is essentially cheating.

 

I love how it backfired and made all three parties look stupid.  Just produce a wicket that allows all three elements to show their skills (batsman / pace bowling / spin bowling) and the best team should win.  I understand that different countries condition result in different styles of wickets (England = swing / Australia - bounce and seam / India - more turn and less bounce) but pitch doctoring is essentially just admitting that your team doesn't have the skills to meet the opponent on a fair surface

[BeautifulGame]

I love how much of the responses refer to how the authorities need to prepare a different kind of pitch (aka less of a raging turner).  The result was karma for a cricketing board/team/fanbase that advocates pitch doctoring which is essentially cheating.

 

I love how it backfired and made all three parties look stupid.  Just produce a wicket that allows all three elements to show their skills (batsman / pace bowling / spin bowling) and the best team should win.  I understand that different countries condition result in different styles of wickets (England = swing / Australia - bounce and seam / India - more turn and less bounce) but pitch doctoring is essentially just admitting that your team doesn't have the skills to meet the opponent on a fair surface

 

This wicket isn't pitch doctoring and neither is the result of that.This is the regular Indian turning track which we find plenty in Indian domestics .

 

We r asking for a different wicket because our current set of batsmen themselves look weak against Spin.Unlikee in the past were had great players of spin , these players themselves struggle on turning tracks so point gambling on it.