Trichromatic Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Considering whatever happened in the match and India had top 2 ranked bowlers and some very good batsmen? Match results Team Result Margin Toss Bat Opposition Ground Start Date India lost 333 runs lost 2nd v Australia Pune 23 Feb 2017 India lost 7 wickets won 1st v England Kolkata 5 Dec 2012 India lost 10 wickets won 1st v England Mumbai 23 Nov 2012 India lost inns & 6 runs lost 2nd v South Africa Nagpur 6 Feb 2010 India lost inns & 90 runs won 1st v South Africa Ahmedabad 3 Apr 2008 India lost 212 runs won 2nd v England Mumbai 18 Mar 2006 India lost 168 runs lost 2nd v Pakistan Bangalore 24 Mar 2005 India lost 342 runs lost 2nd v Australia Nagpur 26 Oct 2004 India lost 217 runs lost 2nd v Australia Bangalore 6 Oct 2004 India lost 10 wickets lost 1st v Australia Mumbai 27 Feb 2001 India lost inns & 71 runs won 1st v South Africa Bangalore 2 Mar 2000 India lost 4 wickets won 1st v South Africa Mumbai 24 Feb 2000 India lost 46 runs lost 2nd v Pakistan Kolkata 16 Feb 1999 India lost 12 runs lost 2nd v Pakistan Chennai 28 Jan 1999 India lost 8 wickets won 1st v Australia Bangalore 25 Mar 1998 India lost 329 runs lost 2nd v South Africa Kolkata 27 Nov 1996 India lost 243 runs lost 2nd v West Indies Mohali 10 Dec 1994 India lost 136 runs lost 2nd v New Zealand Mumbai 24 Nov 1988 India lost 5 wickets won 1st v West Indies Delhi 25 Nov 1987 India lost 16 runs lost 2nd v Pakistan Bangalore 13 Mar 1987 India lost 9 wickets won 1st v England Chennai 13 Jan 1985 India lost 8 wickets won 1st v England Delhi 12 Dec 1984 India lost inns & 46 runs won 1st v West Indies Kolkata 10 Dec 1983 India lost 138 runs won 2nd v West Indies Ahmedabad 12 Nov 1983 India lost inns & 83 runs lost 2nd v West Indies Kanpur 21 Oct 1983 India lost 10 wickets won 1st v England Mumbai 15 Feb 1980 Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
coffee_rules Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Akin to Mumbai 2006. Or Nagpur 2004 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 this is probably our worst batting performance at home. Laaloo, Sidhoni, Vilander and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 44 minutes ago, rkt.india said: this is probably our worst batting performance at home. Yes, can't recall Indian team getting dismissed below 200 twice at home. Vilander and sscomp32 2 Link to comment
flat_wicket_bully Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Second worst defeat at home. We lost by 342 against them in 2004 at Nagpur Batting wise it was our worst performance ever Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Nagpur 2004 margin was slightly higher but we were up against a genuine ATG side. To lose by 333 against an above-average Australian side is far worse. Still, full credit to Australia for their preparation leading up to the series and getting the team combination right straight away. schumibest 1 Link to comment
Ultimate_Game Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Nagpur 2004 margin was slightly higher but we were up against a genuine ATG side. To lose by 333 against an above-average Australian side is far worse. Still, full credit to Australia for their preparation leading up to the series and getting the team combination right straight away. 2 hours ago, atishvaze said: Second worst defeat at home. We lost by 342 against them in 2004 at Nagpur Batting wise it was our worst performance ever Nagpur doesn't come close to this humiliation. Nagpur match was lost on a green pitch due to BCCI's internal politics. That time a feud was going on between West Bengal (Dalmiya) and Maharashtra due to Dalmiya sidelining Sharad Pawar's push to take control of BCCI. As a revenge against Dalmiya and Ganguly (who was close to Dalmiya and from West Bengal), a green pitch was prepared which was more a Aussie or English pitch than an Indian one. As a sign of protest and showing his displeasure Ganguly pulled out of the match feigning injury. On that pitch, favoring Aussie pacers, India never had a realistic chance against Aussie ATG team which had McGrath to exploit the conditions. In this instance we were humiliated on a pitch tailor made for us to suit to our strengths, i.e. spin. We had no business losing in the manner we did. We have supposedly the best players of spin, have the best spin attack in the world and Aussies are supposed to struggle against spin without a good spin attack. This is unarguably the worst home defeat IMO and we better pull up our socks and get ready for a fight this series instead of resting on our laurels. It looks like most of the players have bought into their own hype about "attacking cricket" and how "great" they are. Sidhoni, sscomp32, BeautifulGame and 2 others 5 Link to comment
CG Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 This defeat does not hurt as much as series defeat in 2004 or 2012.Finally it's series that counts. express bowling and King Tendulkar 2 Link to comment
Laaloo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Yes. Frankly embarrassing. First thing Kohli needs to do is go and strategize for using DRS. Sometimes how is clueless against Drs is dreadful. I know it's still early stages but he needs to do a better job. sscomp32, Shunya, Lord and 1 other 4 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said: Nagpur 2004 margin was slightly higher but we were up against a genuine ATG side. To lose by 333 against an above-average Australian side is far worse. Still, full credit to Australia for their preparation leading up to the series and getting the team combination right straight away. But that Indian team was our atg team. This indian team too is just above average. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 39 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said: Nagpur doesn't come close to this humiliation. Nagpur match was lost on a green pitch due to BCCI's internal politics. That time a feud was going on between West Bengal (Dalmiya) and Maharashtra due to Dalmiya sidelining Sharad Pawar's push to take control of BCCI. As a revenge against Dalmiya and Ganguly (who was close to Dalmiya and from West Bengal), a green pitch was prepared which was more a Aussie or English pitch than an Indian one. As a sign of protest and showing his displeasure Ganguly pulled out of the match feigning injury. On that pitch, favoring Aussie pacers, India never had a realistic chance against Aussie ATG team which had McGrath to exploit the conditions. In this instance we were humiliated on a pitch tailor made for us to suit to our strengths, i.e. spin. We had no business losing in the manner we did. We have supposedly the best players of spin, have the best spin attack in the world and Aussies are supposed to struggle against spin without a good spin attack. This is unarguably the worst home defeat IMO and we better pull up our socks and get ready for a fight this series instead of resting on our laurels. It looks like most of the players have bought into their own hype about "attacking cricket" and how "great" they are. It happens a lot. Sometimes, when conditions are extreme, even opposition can make use of that. We too have done it overseas when we found green mambas and our pacers outbowling opposition pacers. Our batsmen outbatted their batsmen. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Getting out to 100 runs twice in a match at home, unprecedented effort. Vilander 1 Link to comment
Jimmy Cliff Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, rkt.india said: But that Indian team was our atg team. This indian team too is just above average. The team in the 2004 Test had the likes of Chopra, Kaif, PaPa, Agarkar, Kartik, a pre-2007 Zaheer and SRT in his Tennis elbow phase (he was rushed back in the 3rd Test without any serious match practice IIRC). That was nowhere close to being our ATG side. Link to comment
kira Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) Worst defeat, because we were bowled out for 100 by spinners like lyon and o' keefe on a pitch where steve smith scored a 100, this is lowest of the lows Edited February 25, 2017 by kira Link to comment
nevada Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Given our current ranking, recent results and expectations of clean sweep against a largely inexperienced Australia side, this has to be the worst defeat EVER. Vilander and sscomp32 2 Link to comment
Yoda-esque Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Pretty close..well actually the worst since we played on our turf and got walloped.. Rahane has got to go.Rahul doesnt inspirf much confidence either. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk Link to comment
Vilander Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Second innings 107 was the most pathetic attempt from indian batting ever. This has to be the worst defeat, of they have any self respect they should play hard and win the series. Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 This lineup is prone to collapses. We had 4 consecutive collapses in England in last 2 tests and also one at Galle. This is the 7th score of below 150 now in less than 3 years. This is not taking SA series in account as both teams struggled there. Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Yes. And i am not surprised. The current Indian lineup doesn't know how to play quiet cricket against the spinners, like our 70s & 80s batsmen did (where on spinning pitches, they could post 250+ at 2.5 RPO), never mind the dominant cricket our 90s & 2000s batsmen did. Link to comment
Muloghonto Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 hours ago, Sidhoni said: This lineup is prone to collapses. We had 4 consecutive collapses in England in last 2 tests and also one at Galle. This is the 7th score of below 150 now in less than 3 years. This is not taking SA series in account as both teams struggled there. Yes. Coz we are missing guys who can play 'shut shop and sensible cricket' type. Pujara is the only one capable of that- Kohli, Raina- they are both 'must keep the scoreboard ticking or dismissed easily' type of batsmen. We need a Laxman-tempo batsman, someone who can be tuk-tuk to get settled in but free-flowing once settled in. And by 'settled in', i mean 30-40+ runs on the board. These days, test cricket is so influenced by T20 mentality that if batsman plays one thumping cover drive after 2 maidens, we think 'batsman is settled'. Link to comment
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