Is this worst defeat for Indian team at home?

[Trichromatic]

Considering whatever happened in the match and India had top 2 ranked bowlers and some very good batsmen?

 

Match results

Team	Result	Margin	Toss	Bat		Opposition	Ground	Start Date
India	lost	333 runs	lost	2nd		v Australia	Pune	23 Feb 2017
India	lost	7 wickets	won	1st		v England	Kolkata	5 Dec 2012
India	lost	10 wickets	won	1st		v England	Mumbai	23 Nov 2012
India	lost	inns & 6 runs	lost	2nd		v South Africa	Nagpur	6 Feb 2010
India	lost	inns & 90 runs	won	1st		v South Africa	Ahmedabad	3 Apr 2008
India	lost	212 runs	won	2nd		v England	Mumbai	18 Mar 2006
India	lost	168 runs	lost	2nd		v Pakistan	Bangalore	24 Mar 2005
India	lost	342 runs	lost	2nd		v Australia	Nagpur	26 Oct 2004
India	lost	217 runs	lost	2nd		v Australia	Bangalore	6 Oct 2004
India	lost	10 wickets	lost	1st		v Australia	Mumbai	27 Feb 2001
India	lost	inns & 71 runs	won	1st		v South Africa	Bangalore	2 Mar 2000
India	lost	4 wickets	won	1st		v South Africa	Mumbai	24 Feb 2000
India	lost	46 runs	lost	2nd		v Pakistan	Kolkata	16 Feb 1999
India	lost	12 runs	lost	2nd		v Pakistan	Chennai	28 Jan 1999
India	lost	8 wickets	won	1st		v Australia	Bangalore	25 Mar 1998
India	lost	329 runs	lost	2nd		v South Africa	Kolkata	27 Nov 1996
India	lost	243 runs	lost	2nd		v West Indies	Mohali	10 Dec 1994
India	lost	136 runs	lost	2nd		v New Zealand	Mumbai	24 Nov 1988
India	lost	5 wickets	won	1st		v West Indies	Delhi	25 Nov 1987
India	lost	16 runs	lost	2nd		v Pakistan	Bangalore	13 Mar 1987
India	lost	9 wickets	won	1st		v England	Chennai	13 Jan 1985
India	lost	8 wickets	won	1st		v England	Delhi	12 Dec 1984
India	lost	inns & 46 runs	won	1st		v West Indies	Kolkata	10 Dec 1983
India	lost	138 runs	won	2nd		v West Indies	Ahmedabad	12 Nov 1983
India	lost	inns & 83 runs	lost	2nd		v West Indies	Kanpur	21 Oct 1983
India	lost	10 wickets	won	1st		v England	Mumbai	15 Feb 1980

[coffee_rules]

Akin to Mumbai 2006. Or Nagpur 2004

[rkt.india]

this is probably our worst batting performance at home.

[Trichromatic]

44 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

this is probably our worst batting performance at home.

Yes, can't recall Indian team getting dismissed below 200 twice at home.

[flat_wicket_bully]

Second worst defeat at home. We lost by 342 against them in 2004 at Nagpur

Batting wise it was our worst performance ever

[Jimmy Cliff]

Nagpur 2004 margin was slightly higher but we were up against a genuine ATG side. To lose by 333 against an above-average Australian side is far worse. Still, full credit to Australia for their preparation leading up to the series and getting the team combination right straight away.

[Ultimate_Game]

2 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Nagpur 2004 margin was slightly higher but we were up against a genuine ATG side. To lose by 333 against an above-average Australian side is far worse. Still, full credit to Australia for their preparation leading up to the series and getting the team combination right straight away.

 

2 hours ago, atishvaze said:

Second worst defeat at home. We lost by 342 against them in 2004 at Nagpur

Batting wise it was our worst performance ever

 

Nagpur doesn't come close to this humiliation. Nagpur match was lost on a green pitch due to BCCI's internal politics. That time a feud was going on between West Bengal (Dalmiya) and Maharashtra due to Dalmiya sidelining Sharad Pawar's push to take control of BCCI. As a revenge against Dalmiya and Ganguly (who was close to Dalmiya and from West Bengal), a green pitch was prepared which was more a Aussie or English pitch than an Indian one. As a sign of protest and showing his displeasure Ganguly pulled out of the match feigning injury. On that pitch, favoring Aussie pacers, India never had a realistic chance against Aussie ATG team which had McGrath to exploit the conditions.

 

In this instance we were humiliated on a pitch tailor made for us to suit to our strengths, i.e. spin. We had no business losing in the manner we did. We have supposedly the best players of spin, have the best spin attack in the world and Aussies are supposed to struggle against spin without a good spin attack. This is unarguably the worst home defeat IMO and we better pull up our socks and get ready for a fight this series instead of resting on our laurels. It looks like most of the players have bought into their own hype about "attacking cricket" and how "great" they are.

[CG]

This defeat does not hurt as much as series defeat in 2004 or 2012.Finally it's series that counts.

[Laaloo]

Yes. Frankly embarrassing. First thing Kohli needs to do is go and strategize for using DRS. Sometimes how is clueless against Drs is dreadful. I know it's still early stages but he needs to do a better job. 

[rkt.india]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Nagpur 2004 margin was slightly higher but we were up against a genuine ATG side. To lose by 333 against an above-average Australian side is far worse. Still, full credit to Australia for their preparation leading up to the series and getting the team combination right straight away.

But that Indian team was our atg team. This indian team too is just above average.

[rkt.india]

39 minutes ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

 

Nagpur doesn't come close to this humiliation. Nagpur match was lost on a green pitch due to BCCI's internal politics. That time a feud was going on between West Bengal (Dalmiya) and Maharashtra due to Dalmiya sidelining Sharad Pawar's push to take control of BCCI. As a revenge against Dalmiya and Ganguly (who was close to Dalmiya and from West Bengal), a green pitch was prepared which was more a Aussie or English pitch than an Indian one. As a sign of protest and showing his displeasure Ganguly pulled out of the match feigning injury. On that pitch, favoring Aussie pacers, India never had a realistic chance against Aussie ATG team which had McGrath to exploit the conditions.

 

In this instance we were humiliated on a pitch tailor made for us to suit to our strengths, i.e. spin. We had no business losing in the manner we did. We have supposedly the best players of spin, have the best spin attack in the world and Aussies are supposed to struggle against spin without a good spin attack. This is unarguably the worst home defeat IMO and we better pull up our socks and get ready for a fight this series instead of resting on our laurels. It looks like most of the players have bought into their own hype about "attacking cricket" and how "great" they are.

It happens a lot. Sometimes, when conditions are extreme, even opposition can make use of that. We too have done it overseas when we found green mambas and our pacers outbowling opposition pacers. Our batsmen outbatted their batsmen. 

[rkt.india]

Getting out to 100 runs twice in a match at home, unprecedented effort.

[Jimmy Cliff]

9 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

But that Indian team was our atg team. This indian team too is just above average.

The team in the 2004 Test had the likes of Chopra, Kaif, PaPa, Agarkar, Kartik, a pre-2007 Zaheer and SRT in his Tennis elbow phase (he was rushed back in the 3rd Test without any serious match practice IIRC). That was nowhere close to being our ATG side.

[kira]

Worst defeat, because we were bowled out for 100 by spinners like lyon and o' keefe on a pitch where steve smith scored a 100, this is lowest of the lows 

Edited February 25, 2017 by kira

[nevada]

Given our current ranking, recent results and expectations of clean sweep against a largely inexperienced Australia side, this has to be the worst defeat EVER.

[Yoda-esque]

Pretty close..well actually the worst since we played on our turf and got walloped..

 

Rahane has got to go.Rahul doesnt inspirf much confidence either.

 

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[Vilander]

Second innings 107 was the most pathetic attempt from indian batting ever. This has to be the worst defeat, of they have any self respect they should play hard and win the series.

[Sidhoni]

This lineup is prone to collapses. We had 4 consecutive collapses in England in last 2 tests and also one at Galle. This is the 7th score of below 150 now in less than 3 years. This is not taking SA series in account as both teams struggled there.

[Muloghonto]

Yes. 

And i am not surprised. The current Indian lineup doesn't know how to play quiet cricket against the spinners, like our 70s & 80s batsmen did (where on spinning pitches, they could post 250+ at 2.5 RPO), never mind the dominant cricket our 90s & 2000s batsmen did.

 

[Muloghonto]

2 hours ago, Sidhoni said:

This lineup is prone to collapses. We had 4 consecutive collapses in England in last 2 tests and also one at Galle. This is the 7th score of below 150 now in less than 3 years. This is not taking SA series in account as both teams struggled there.

Yes. Coz we are missing guys who can play 'shut shop and sensible cricket' type. Pujara is the only one capable of that- Kohli, Raina- they are both 'must keep the scoreboard ticking or dismissed easily' type of batsmen. We need a Laxman-tempo batsman, someone who can be tuk-tuk to get settled in but free-flowing once settled in.

And by 'settled in', i mean 30-40+ runs on the board. These days, test cricket is so influenced by T20 mentality that if batsman plays one thumping cover drive after 2 maidens, we think 'batsman is settled'.