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Everything posted by Rightarmfast

  1. LolZ, this SL ODI team is playing like the Pakistan Test team :))
  2. Dravid v Sanga - who was better test batsman?

    For me its Dravid.
  3. Speed and performance of pacers and spinners in important matches

    A very nice article on Javagal Srinath. It is beautifully written. On 2nd thought, I now feel that perhaps Javagal Srinath had it in him to be an ATG. He should have been counted with Waqar, Donald and the likes. And I truly believe it now. It was never meant to be! He has not been all that lucky WHAT MAKES a fast bowler, asks Allan Donald in his autobiography `White Lightning' and goes ahead to provide the answer: ``A lot of determination, a high pain threshold, sympathetic coaching and luck.'' Javagal Srinath may like to agree with Donald's observations but with one exception. The South African great confesses he has had luck favouring him, something which the Indian has sorely missed all the way. Sitting out when at peak, bowling on least responsive tracks, beating the bat or finding the edges only to see catches spilled. It has been a hard grind for this gentle fast bowler, who believes aggression is not in sledging or hurting a batsman but in claiming his wicket. For a man so gifted, Srinath shall remain a disappointment mainly for his failure to get the best out of himself. Let me share what Simon Hughes, former Middlesex medium-pacer and now a reputed journalist, had to say of Srinath. ``If I had half his talent, I would have achieved so much more than what he has'' was Simon's candid comment as he watched the Indian in action at Edgbaston in the World Cup game against England. When you assess Srinath's career, you end up with this feeling that his has been a colossal waste of talent. For various reasons, this Karnataka speedster, who arrived on the scene with a bang as a tearaway quickie, could not achieve his potential and that shall rankle his wellwishers and fans. In a system where aggression is often misunderstood, Srinath grew up in the shadows of Kapil Dev and Manoj Prabhakar, often struggling to gain an opportunity to showcase his abilities. There were times when he watched from the dressing room a contest of which he ought to have been a key figure as far as India's attack was concerned. Let us go back eight years when India was on tour of South Africa. On the eve of the third Test at Port Elizabeth, when even the layman knew what a lively strip it was for the fast bowlers, we gathered that India had picked just Kapil and Prabhakar and there was no room for Srinath. The South African captain Kepler Wessels was stunned. ``You must be kidding'' he reacted when told that India had excluded Srinath. On a pitch which saw Donald finish with 12 wickets, India chose to go in with just two seamers. Srinath got a chance in the next Test at Cape Town, bowled with fire, and made a big impact on the South Aricans who privately thanked their stars that they did not have to face this speedster on the responsive St. George's Park pitch. Incidentally, the Indian team on that tour included five new ball bowlers simply because of the nature of pitches in South Africa - hard and bouncy - but Srinath did not bowl on the best of them.It is true that during his early years, Srinath was made to watch more than play in a Test. He was raring to go against the Englishmen in 1993 in the home series but again had to sit out in all the three Tests as coach Ajit Wadekar whipped up the spin magic. Srinath took it in his stride, not sulking even in private, as he admitted he learnt so much from watching the others. Essentially, Srinath's progress was hampered by various team management's lack of faith in fast bowlers. Despite encouraging performances, he failed to win the confidence of the skipper and the coach until Sachin Tendulkar replaced Mohammed Azharuddin at the helm. It is another matter that critics observed Srinath was overbowled on many occasions during that phase. Somehow Srinath carried the impression that he belonged to a tribe which was denied its due. It was true to a large extent. Long spells at the `nets' was what put off Srinath because he was expected to give his best the next day in the match. There were times when he would wonder if he had made the right choice by wanting to emulate Kapil than Prasanna or Chandrasekhar. Breaking his back on placid tracks around the country, Srinath learnt slowly, and late too, that he must conserve energy. The frequent staging of one-day matches also took its toll on Srinath and one suspected he was not really enjoying his cricket. ``I was never disinterested'' he told this correspondent vehemently. He was hurt at some of the criticism that he was picking and choosing his assignments but like a determined man that he has been, Srinath kept himself in the reckoning through some inspired stuff. Injuries hampered his progress and it was a difficult period for Srinath. Troubled by a painful shoulder and then knees, he stood at the crossroads of his career - should he continue to play one- day cricket or not. Better sense prevailed when he opted out of the madness of playing one-day cricket day in and day out. It was a decision made in the best interest of Indian cricket for the team could not afford to lose Srinath during this period of transition. Srinath has been an enigma really. A treasure of talent, loads of determination, and a fierce desire to win matches for the team have not been able to bring him the kind of success one would have expected. He can never be accused of shirking because he has, for years, battled injuries and fatigue to give his best to the team. He may not have succeeded always but there can never be any doubt about his loyalty and sincerity in serving the team. It is also true that Srinath missed Venkatesh Prasad at the other end when he was at his best. Fast bowlers hunt in pairs and the two Karnataka bowlers had tremendous understanding. They would complement each other but sadly Prasad was given a raw deal, never being allowed to settle down despite the fact that he was one of the craftiest bowlers for a long time. A much under-rated bowler, as former Sri Lankan skipper Arjuna Ranatunga once told me, Srinath had reached a stage two seasons back where he was beginning to doubt his capabilities, because of lack of support from all quarters. The load was increasing and physically it was impossible to push himself to a point of breaking down. If he did not break down, it speaks for the man's fitness even though many have doubted this aspect of his strong character. Length may not have been an asset but Srinath never compromised on his pace. His strength lay in bowling quick and he explored all the possibilities in a tight situation for gaining breakthroughs. The spell against South Africa at Ahmedabad was one memorable performance by Srinath as he destroyed the opposition with sheer speed. One would treasure the sight of Srinath pounding down the track and with his whipping action causing great discomfort to the batsmen. A perfect exhibition of fast bowling it was. To develop his attitude, Srinath even turned a meat-eater from a strict vegetarian. He worked tirelessly on his fitness. He may not have possessed the physique of an Imran Khan or a Donald but in his own manner Srinath was quite effectively prepared. No captain can complain of Srinath ever saying no to a challenge. For years, Srinath had just one grudge - there was little technical input from men who mattered to enable him reach his optimum potential. The lack of guidance was glaring because he struggled to analyse his bowling and rectify the shortcomings. Maybe Srinath had a valid point here but then he disappointed Kapil on the last tour to Australia by bowling short repeatedly. ``He is capable of much more'' Kapil would say. In an international career which is now nine years old, it is a pity that Srinath is still looking for means to churn out his best and convince the team management and the selectors - his spells at an unkind Ferozeshah Kotla against Zimbabwe a telling proof. He gives himself a good two years of carefully planned cricket. One-day internationals are low on his priority and rightly too because it is Test cricket which has always mirrored his potential. If one had to point one big flaw in his career, apart from great moments of disappointments as a bowler who was worth much more, it would remain his failure as a batsman. Srinath had the explosive power to belt the ball and devastate the attack but he never could do justice to his batting abilities, mainly because he was guilty of ignoring this area. He could have been a wonderful all-rounder but somewhere down the line Srinath showed distinct disinterest in his batting, a suggestion which the mild- mannered fast bowler emphatically disagrees with. As a senior member of the team, Srinath, at 32, has plenty of responsibility on his shoulders. There is much for him to prove but as one looks back at his career, for his talent and for all his hard work on the field, Srinath, to most of us, comes off grossly unlucky, and an underachiever. For a long time we lamented the lack of fast bowlers in the country and when someone like Srinath came along, we failed to understand and harness him properly. No wonder, Donald spoke about luck in his autobiography. VIJAY LOKAPALLY http://www.thehindu.com/2000/12/02/stories/0702028b.htm What if Javagal Srinath was bowling today? With the kind of support, he would easily be a major threat to all batsmen!
  4. Speed and performance of pacers and spinners in important matches

    At this point, I dont think he is express. However, he has all the ingredients to be a genuine quickie. I also feel he needs to put in just a little bit more push from his back at the point of release, and I think that should add another 5k to his speed. Looks to me he will also grow up to be a genuine quickie! Dude, how many potential express bowlers do we have now? I think we are talking in excess of 10-15
  5. Speed and performance of pacers and spinners in important matches

    What do we have here? I didnt know Agarkar was listed as 'Right Arm Fast' on espn. I have absolutely no objection to it :) But why not Yadav, Shami, Zaheer etc etc etc?
  6. If Amir likes being hyped and praised by Kohli, he better start living up to his name. Just one performance against India in a match India played to lose, doesnt make him the best. All said, I like Amir, I think he has the capacity to be a good bowler. But as of now, he is a below mediocre bowler. Even Debashish Mohanty had some incredible spells in 99 WC in England. But we never considered him good.
  7. Bhaijaan, Pakistan me cricket match to nahi hota hai, live telecast bhi band ho gaya kya? Aapki baato se lagta hai last 20 years me aapne cricket match dekha nahi hai! Thoda jag jaao bhai!
  8. Speed and performance of pacers and spinners in important matches

    Just a regular Bihari boy. Expected.. PS - I am a Bihari too :P
  9. lolzzz, rassi jal gayi, hekdi nahi gayi :P Smell the coffee! The bottle cap opener days are over. Your bowlers are the worst trundlers to be roaming on earth. Get your facts right :)
  10. Its getting bloody embarassing now. For dog's sake, we are supposed to be fackin enemies!
  11. Wahab riaz who? You mean the same trundler who was bowling 125-130 the last test match I saw him? yeah, he definitely is the fastest ever who walked on a cricket ground. Fastest ever spin bowler!
  12. You are right. Although your attempt at sarcasm was an epic fail! Indian fast bowlers have been quicker than Pakistanis for over 5-7 years now, easily. So, you can live in your la la land as much as you like, but the fact that pakistani bowlers are no more than boring trundlers will not change.
  13. Far from it. When Agarkar made his debut for India, he was a bowler who the entire cricketing fraternity was talking about. He was taking wickets in heaps against strong batsmen like Aussie batsmen, SA, Pak, Zim etc... Opposition were talking about him. And mind you, this was when, Mcgrath, Wasim, Pollock and one red hot bowler by the name of Shoaib Akhtar were in the scene! Hassan hasnt displayed such strength of character yet. Although I have hopes on him
  14. How many matches did Ajit Agarkar take to pick 50 wickets?
  15. I am not Hassan Ali is bad. But he isn't that good. He is a good support bowler and he will be found out in the longer run.
  16. Pakistani bowlers are made to look good by some below average, absolutely atrocious batting performance. However, somebody did have to bowl those deliveries so credit needs to be given. But I am not so impressed by Hassan. He is ok. While Junaid is clearly a chucker
  17. Isn't Junaid chucking? He clearly looks a checker to me
  18. Combined Indo Pak All Time ODI Team

    Just for fun, since the group is dull today! So, here's my dream Indo-Pak combined ODI team... Mind you, I am going without stats right now. And I am considering players who I have seen. Here's my list - Sachin Viru Kohli Saeed Anwar Yuvraj Dhoni Wasim Akram Kumble Saqlain Mushtaq Waqar Shoaib 12th and 13th players- Kapil Ddev Imran Khan The reason why Kapil and Imran dont make it to the team is because the batting and bowling is so strong, we dont need outdated players. More importantly, Imran was too slow as a batsman to be accomodated in the present ODI scenario, Kapil has a strong chance of replacing Yuvi or Saeed. I do believe this has to be almost the best combined team ever for ODI. Please share your teams and your thoughts!
  19. Thommo - how quick was he?'

    The exact reason why 165 isn't possible. 2 of those 4 fast bowlers were arguably the fastest bowlers ever, yet all they could manage was a single delivery at 160 in their entire career! If it was so easy, and possible, they would be bowling 160 on a regular basis.
  20. Thommo - how quick was he?'

    I also want to add one point which will be very controversial. However, the bowlers of the past can look quicker and awkward also because of the technology used while recording. The cameras and lenses then were not of the quality what we see now. So often, in videos of 60's 70's, its difficult to see the ball clealy as the visuals are not clear. Which gives an illusion that the ball was quick. However, the technology and angles are so improved that we can see the ball clearly leaving the bowlers hand and reaching the batsmen. We are able to see it clearly, hence not being bamboozled into believing someone could be that quick.
  21. Haven't watched him offlate. Looks like will have to. Pakistan will need to clone him if he is that good
  22. Ranji Trophy 2017/18

    @MCcricket be ready for an fir against you... You made baseless 'allegations'FOR bihari players
  23. I can't understand how or why people would play politics with good players. He says that he took 2 wickets in 3 overs and then was not given the ball at all. And similar cases are there in Indian cricket history too! Its just ridiculous!
  24. Ranji Trophy 2017/18

    I am not saying or confirming they were 150. However, I did record Rehan Khan and he did look 140+ to me. You have seen the videos yourself. And the other bowlers I am talking of, were comfortable about 4-5 yards quicker than Rehan. This was Rehan's own observation too. In 90's, nobody said they were bowling 150's. However, people did say they were faster than Srinath,
  25. Ranji Trophy 2017/18

    Can't watch videos coz I am in the office. But just look at this article about the bowler @rkt.india was talking about. This is what bowling stars can do to you. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/Javelin-to-hurling-red-cherry-Story-of-Chota-Babloo-Lalit-Yadav/articleshow/55419526.cms This lad is just following Umesh Yadav and wants to bowl as fast as him! Well, we seem to be developing a good pace culture and we already seem to have a handful of future players who could really be genuine express bowlers.

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