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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Peshust in Indian "Liberals" claiming to be Champions of Science   

     
    yeah, Amartya Sen, nobel lauriate and liberal himself cannot handle 'logic or numbers'
    Or Mahalanobis, greatest Indian modern mathematician after Ramanujan, couldn't do 'numbers'.

    Chaddis are now grasping at straws. Come back about 'Liberals cant do math' when Hindi belt or Gujjus or Marathis - all the areas that are 'home ground' of Chaddis accomplish even 1 nobel prize in science or field's medal in math.
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Book_Worm in Maya kodnani Acquitted!!   
    Some of the most backwards bakwaas i've ever read. 
    And while India's idea of secularism (appeasement of all) needs to go, true secularism is the mark of a civilized society- where religion is seperated from the state. Ironic, that India's golden age came at a time when it was pretty much the only civilization practicing ancient secularism, with kings freely having different religions than their forefathers and supporting all viewpoints, including atheist ones.
    To me, Hinduvtas are scum, because they are doing what the Islamists and missionaries couldn't do: destroy hinduism.
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Sachinism in Kathua rape-murder: Lawyers stop police from filing chargesheet   
    In a way its good. Hinduvtas are proving themselves to be equally jaahil backwards 'drag on humanity' as Islamists or Evangelicals. Religious people the world over are the same - relics of a bygone era, holding back humanity.
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Alam_dar in Maya kodnani Acquitted!!   
    There hasn't been a single society on the planet that has succeeded in the long term by tilting the scales too much in favor of the elites. 
    But then again, bolded comments show that you are not only a fascist, but a fascist bordering on psychopathy.
     
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    Muloghonto reacted to Garuda in Maya kodnani Acquitted!!   
    Wow. Dude that's extreme. What's your age? Im pretty sure if you get over the age of 30 you'll regret making this statemnt.
     
    We are an agrarian economy first of all. All this technology and IT slave jobs come from US. If they decide to stop or keep their jobs with themselves, we have to turn back to farming. That's our strength. You have to thank those people who are making your wheat or rice. Rather you say eff to them and let them die. Whatever job that your doing can also be replaced with machines dont forget that. Your lack of empathy for your fellow human beings will come back to you if you continue this kinda mindset. If Ambani who pretty much owns this country decides to automate everything you will also die of starvation.
     
    You are saying good to mallya and nirav modi. You should be the devil's advocate. You come from a waelthy background I assume thats why you say more power to the wealthy. You are a scumbag really.
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Alam_dar in Maya kodnani Acquitted!!   
    There hasn't been a single society on the planet that has succeeded in the long term by tilting the scales too much in favor of the elites. 
    But then again, bolded comments show that you are not only a fascist, but a fascist bordering on psychopathy.
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from sarcastic in Are Ramayan and Mahabharata real?   
    There is no shame in admitting that Ramayana and Mahabharata are largely works of fiction, that has shaped our cultural heritage. 
    For that, is the objective truth. One can value the impact of a book to a culture and still admit that the book is not factual.
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Stradlater in Are Ramayan and Mahabharata real?   
    There is an interesting theory out there, that Ram legend is not Indian in origin, but Iranian.
    Several clues in the story point towards this:
    1. The concept of singular wife, not harem of wives is practically unheard of in ancient India. Every single ruler up to the late medeival period is documented as having many, many wives. Ie, first instance of 'singular wife' as normal is seen amongst the Gurjaras and Rashtrakutas in 750s AD. Yet, in Iranian history, singular wives were far more common (though not always the case either) in pre-Islamic days.
    2. Ram is found in many, many Iranian city-name prefixes and Ram is often used as a shorthand for Rostam.  Places like Ramallah (Ram is God), Ramshehr ( Ram's city),  Ramsar ( shorthand of Ramshahr, but in another part of Iran)
     
    3. We have the curious case of never finding a ruler of ancient India called Ram or Shatrughana. Yet, we find archaeology of mesopotamia, where the names 'Shutruk-nahunte' are mentioned - several times (there were 2 or 3 of them) in the Elamite kingdom and two or three separate kings named Ram-Sin or Rim-Sin. In Sumerian, Sin = moon God (Isin = city of the moon god). Ie, Ram chandra is quite literally Ram-Sin/Rim-Sin in Sumerian. This, we have archaeological evidence of (that kings named Rim-Sin/Ram-Sin existed in old Sumeria).
     
    4. Meaning of Ayodha is ' undefeated'. So is the meaning of the city named Akkad, in Akkadian language ( undefeated)- which now is a lost city of Sargon of Akkad - who's dynasty founded Akkad. And one of his descendants was named Naram-Sin ( Beloved of the moon God)
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Jimmy Cliff in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    The naval mutiny IMO was the reason for the hasty partition and hasty retreat of the Brits- because they were scared that if news of mutiny of British forces spread, it would nose-dive the morale of the British forces elsewhere. 
    However, the Naval mutiny was not relevant towards independence, which was long since discussed. 
    The two major parties in India's independence was the Tehran accords and Gandhi.
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Alam_dar in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
     
    The biggest reason why they left after WWII and not WWI is because of Gandhi- Gandhi's marches and bandhs made the Raj a deeply loss making entity. 
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from sarcastic in Are Ramayan and Mahabharata real?   
    And thats precisely why Rome and the west have a far greater sense of their heritage than Indians. 
    Italians don't give a flying fig about Aeneas. Or the epic stories of the Aenid. They care about their ACTUAL history. The Caesars, the Empire, the Republic, the city-states. 

    Indians meanwhile, know jack $hit about the ACTUAL historical stalwarts of India. No one knows or cares about Amogavarsha or Indra III or DevaPala or Nagabhatta or Mahapadma Nanda. The Hinduvta narrow vision of psuedo-history is confined to debating Ramayana, Mahabharata and the Aryan migration/non-migration nonsense.
    All the while, ignoring the actual rich 2500 years of history we possess. 
     
    No concept, idea or culture, is beyond reproach or beyond change. That our ignorant ancestors formed their beliefs around the stories of the Mahabharata/Ramayana is no justification for us to hold it sacred, with the far superior knowledge we possess. Sure, it is part of our heritage but it is not beyond questioning either. Nothing is and that is the way of the scientific mindset- to always re-evaluate, investigate and go by the latest information at hand.
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Alam_dar in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    Bhagat Singh is an overglorified guy because of Punjabi dominance of Bollywood. There are thousands like him or more impactful than him that don't get the proper recognition.
     
    And Gandhi still accomplished 100x more than Bhagat Singh or any of the other 1000s like Bhagat Singh.
     
    When it comes to Shaheeds and martyrs for the independence movement, Bengalis are the bravest of the lot. Which is strange, because before the British, you'd have to go back a thousand years to find a brave Bengali.
     
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Alam_dar in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    https://jigjids.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/the_secret_history_of_the_mongols_the_life_and_times_of_chinggis_khan1.pdf
     
    Now kindly go read and see how Genghis was a better hubby than Ram.
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Alam_dar in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    Bhagat Singh is an overglorified guy because of Punjabi dominance of Bollywood. There are thousands like him or more impactful than him that don't get the proper recognition.
     
    And Gandhi still accomplished 100x more than Bhagat Singh or any of the other 1000s like Bhagat Singh.
     
    When it comes to Shaheeds and martyrs for the independence movement, Bengalis are the bravest of the lot. Which is strange, because before the British, you'd have to go back a thousand years to find a brave Bengali.
     
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Under_Score in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    Most Indians put him on a pedestal because Gandhi is the singular biggest reason for our independence.
     
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    Muloghonto reacted to sarcastic in Are Ramayan and Mahabharata real?   
    Fully agreed with the bolded sentences. For a person with faith on certain God(s) will believe the books to be truth and as far as the person is concerned, the God(s) are real and the holy book is sacred and truth. There are indeed people from all professions who do believe in God. In my opinion, nobody has the right to say to such people what should or should not believe or what they should or should not consider something as real. 
     
    Rest is not immaterial from a commonsense point of view. A lot of Christians might believe that Jesus Christ has resurrected himself after three days after his crucifixion and came alive and talked to his disciples. But from a commonsense point of view, there is no conclusive evidence that such an event has happened. Ilayaraja made such a comment and it was deemed controversial. But I will completely attest his statement because there is indeed no conclusive evidence that it has happened. We are not ruling out that such a thing DID NOT take place. But there is no way we can ascertain that it DID take place. For believing Christians, it is real and so be it (as far as they are concerned). 
     
    All I am saying is, from the OP @rkt.india's perspective, "Are Ramayan and Mahabharat real?" he is asking a simple commonsensical question. Did they happen like some other historical events... Did Mahabharat war happen just like the three batttles of Panipat happened. Then we cannot base our answer to that question from  perspective of "Faith" or existence of God. 

    Do we have evidence using similar means like we deduced Ashoka's Kalinga war or Panipat wars or several others.  
     
    The answer that posters such as @Gollum and @Muloghonto are giving seems to be NO. 
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    Muloghonto reacted to Stradlater in Are Ramayan and Mahabharata real?   
    Urban settlements around Kosala Mahajanpada aren't found before 6th-7th century BC which busts the entire Ramayan timeline. Sorry Bhakto as much as it pains me to say but Prabhu Shri Ram didn't exist.
    Mahabharata is def real though but minus the Jadoo part of course.
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    Muloghonto reacted to beetle in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    I do not.
    That is why I seperated my post about Gandhi from post about Siddharth and Ram.
     
    Siddharth and Ram's  certain conducts  are open to interpretation and personal views on the matter.People can have different views on what they feel is fair or unfair .
     
    Gandhi's conduct was totally different and comes under criminal conduct. It is  not even open to interpretation .
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Garuda in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    First hand source. Marco Polos description of visiting South India is also consistent with travellers of that period and later.
    Again, stop dodging the question- a person claimed he was in India 800 years ago and wrote about his experience. Which is consistent with other travellers. What's your basis of disputing it ? 
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    Muloghonto reacted to Stradlater in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    James Cook although a great discoverer was a bad father since he spent all his life voyaging to new lands.
     
    Albert Einstein was a poor husband since he had his mind always immersed in Physics and thus paying little attention to his wife. I mean who cares about relativity and sh!t like that when taking his wife to shopping was more important.
     
    Roald Amundsen was a bad father too since he risked journeying to Antarctica where there was little chance that he would come back in one piece.
     
    I can go on and on.
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    Muloghonto reacted to Alam_dar in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    My Personal Opinion (others have full rights to disagree with me): 
     
    (1)  Moses/David = Muhammad
    For example Muhammad attacked the tribes, killed all the men (including old men) and children who already got the naval hairs (i.e 12-14 years of age). These old men and children of 12 years had nothing to do with the war, but Muhammd didn't pardon them. 
    And then Muhammad took all the women and small children as slaves. All the captured women had to perform the "sex service". 
    These women and small children had nothing to do with the wars. 
     
    This is the same for Moses/David. Please read the old testament which is witnessing that Moses/David also attacked the tribes and nations and they not only killed all the men, but sometimes they also slaughtered all the women and the children too. No one could deny this genocide as it is present in old testament itself. 
     
    Therefore, for me Moses/David=Muhammad
     
     
    (2) Jesus (only slightly better than Moses/Mohammad)
     
    Although the teachings of Jesus were to love, but still he is only slightly better than Moses/Mohammad. 
    Reasons are:
    * Do you know Muhammad was also very kind-hearted? 
    Yes, it is true. 
    Please read Quran and Ahadith, which are full witness to this. 
     
    But the problem is this that this kind-heartiness was present in Muhammad only till the time he was "weak" in Mecca and Kuffar were stronger. During whole  Meccan Islamic Period  (i.e. 23 years), you could read the Quranic Verses which are full of humanity and justice and love and there is no verse in this whole period which goes against humanity/justice/love. 
     
    But as soon as Muhammad got power in Madina, then standards changed and same Muhammad turned into tyrant. And during last years (after victory of Mecca), Muhammad got absolute powers. This is the time when he ordered to slaughter each and every Kafir if he does not accept Islam. 
     
    Same is true with Jesus. 
    As compared to Moses/David/Muhammad, Mr. Jesus was not able to get the absolute power to plunder his enemies. Therefore we hear this talk of love and humanity by Jesus. 
     
    Nevertheless, as an Atheist, my opinion about Mr. Jesus is this that he was also a fraud like Moses/Muhammad. He also played the Drama of god and angels etc. 
     
    Due to this Drama, Mr. Jesus was unable to deny the Old Testament and he was also unable to deny the wrongdoings/killings of Moses/David and Talmud, and thus the religious books of Jews (along with God's orders of killings) also became the part of Christianity. That played their role later when Christians got the power and they also started killing the opponents right and left and took the women and children as slaves (just like Muhammad). 
     
    Therefore, no way that Jesus was any different to Moses/Muhammad
     
     
    (3) Siddharta
    There is absolutely no way that Siddharta could ever be compared with Jesus/Moses/Muhammad where later only deceived the humanity by doing the drama of god and angels for their personal gains. 
     
    Siddharta was an Atheist/Agnostic who never deceived the people in name of any god. But he told them clearly that all his teachings came only through "human freethinking". His teachings woke up the humanity in people. 
     
    Therefore, it is an utter insult to Siddharta when he is compared with people like Moses/Jesus/Muhammad. 
     
    Siddharta could and should only be compared with people like Confucius, who was also a freethinker and they never did the drama of god/angels to deceive the people. 
     
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Alam_dar in Are Ramayan and Mahabharata real?   


    Science is actually slowly trending towards an eternal universe, no creator model. Which actually makes a lot more sense. 
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Stradlater in About Gandhi - Is this true?   
    So by the context of the pre-modern world, any long distance trader, traveller, envoy to a foreign court, etc. are all bad fathers- for they usually spend 10-20 years at a stretch away from home....
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    Muloghonto reacted to mancalledsting in Internet existed during Mahabharata period: Tripura CM   
    Correct. This is called a rotational flap and it is a plastic surgery reconstructive procedure. It’s not used for cosmetics. It is mainly used to fill in defects in  that occur following eg a cancer excision. Cosmetics is a only one branch of plastic surgery. 
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    Muloghonto got a reaction from Peshust in Kathua rape-murder: Lawyers stop police from filing chargesheet   
    These two lines are contradictory, unless you have direct access to the culprit/the accused/their lawyers/intelligence agencies. As outside of them, EVERYONE is basing their opinion on what they read on the issue.
     
    Your opinion 'it is staged' is also based on reading stuff online.......

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