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  1. Jagmeet stated in the interview that it was a heinous act, denounced it, and called it a terrorist act. The majority of Sikhs don't celebrate the act of the air india bombing either. Jagmeet: " So, it is so unacceptable that the violence that was committed, the heinous massacre that was committed is something that Sikhs, Muslims, Hindus all denounced. The violence that’s perpetrated against innocent Canadian lives is something we all denounce. I regularly denounce it on the anniversary, it’s something we all collectively are opposed to. There’s no question about this, that innocent lives were killed, and it is completely unacceptable and needs to be denounced as a terrorist act. "
  2. a classic case of Whataboutism to discredit the genocide of the sikhs in 1984. Well, it's a start that Canada's Ontario government has officially recognized the 1984 Sikh genocide. It's a shame the victims of the sikh genocide are unlikely to find any justice now given the numerous coverups, delayed process, letting the perpetrators go free, and the lack of initiative by the Indian government.
  3. Fact is in Canada, the Ontario government has officially passed the motion of recognizing the Sikh genocide of 1984. The motion was led by Jagmeet Singh and then Harinder Malhi and passed with a 34-5 vote in the Ontario parliament. If you want to undermine the motion, then it's your opinion. Like mentioned previously: Sikhs all over including India have advocated for justice for the atrocities in 1984. In India, Sikhs don't glorify the Indian police or government for the atrocities against them in 1984. Fact is sikhs were killed, raped, and burnt alive for multiple days straight and the police simply ignored all of it and the PM of India, Rajiv Gandhi merely justified the carnage by saying when a tree falls, the earth below shakes. Numerous reports and investigations have revealed that it was systematic and organized and worse than a genocide. You can call it by whatever name but it doesn't change the fact that thousands of sikhs were killed, burnt alive, and raped in India in 1984 and the decade that followed in punjab If you want to keep on deflecting from the main point of injustice and atrocities on the sikhs in 1984 and after, and are looking to undermine them, then it's your choice. Peace out
  4. once again read the article below and my previous post For Sikh Canadians, Ontario's Genocide Motion Was Courageous And Unifying 04/19/2017 05:09 EDT | Updated 04/19/2017 05:09 EDTAmneet Singh Bali Human Rights Advocate, Law Student and former Social Justice Fellow in Global Governance and Democracy at Windsor Law. Hindustan Times via Getty Images NEW DELHI, INDIA - JUNE 12: Devotees look at just laid foundation stone of November 1984 Sikh Genocide Memorial at Gurudwara Rakab Ganj on June 12, 2013 in New Delhi, India. Allegedly more than 8,000 Sikhs died including 3,000 in Delhi during the 1984 anti-Sikhs riots or the 1984 Sikh Massacre by anti-Sikh mobs, in response to the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. (Photo by Vipin Kumar/Hindustan Times via Getty Images) Earlier this month, in a historic move demonstrating commitment to democracy and human rights, the Ontario Legislature passed a motion to recognize the 1984 anti-Sikh violence as genocide. The term genocide is politically charged and because of this it is rarely used. But, in this instance, acknowledging what happened in 1984 was genocide was truthful, sincere and healing. In the 1980s, Canada opened its borders to Sikh refugees fleeing persecution at the hands of the Indian government. Sikh youths were being disappeared by the thousands, with the government claiming they were terrorists that had gone underground. With Canadian assistance, it was later revealed that the government had engaged in a campaign of extra-judicial killings. The campaign to systematically exterminate Sikhs in Punjab lasted over a decade. In 1995, Jaswant Singh Khalra uncovered police cremation records proving the murders of innocent Sikh youth. He presented his findings to the Canadian Parliament in June of that year. Upon returning to India that September, he was abducted by police and tortured for a month. His body was cut into pieces and dumped into a river. Belatedly, Indian Supreme Court Judges Justice Kuldip Singh and Justice Saghir Ahmed expressed 'horror and shock' at the evidence Khalra had collected, describing the acts it proved as 'worse than genocide'. Today, Amnesty International recognizes Jaswant Khalra as an International Defender of Human Rights and the Canadian Museum for Human Rights has an entire exhibit dedicated to his honour. Jaswant Singh Khalra shed light on a horrific historical episode that many including myself grew up witnessing. During my childhood, the weekly newspaper was full of photos of the bullet-ridden bodies of Sikh men, some emasculated and dressed in saris, but all photographed with police officers hovering over them the way that hunters might loom over their prey. Women, too, were objects of extreme sexual violence, including rape by officers of the State. This was the plight of Sikhs in India, a hunted minority that comprised 2% of India's total population. Disappearances were unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg. Human rights violations were widespread and in November 1984, when the genocide climaxed in four days of State-facilitated, unhinged violence. While the Indian Government has often claimed that the violence was a result of Indira Gandhi's assassination, this canard was debunked by the Nanavati Commission report headed by the former Supreme Court Justice, G.T Nanavati. In his report, Justice Nanavati concluded that "[a]ll this could not have happened [in November 1984] if it was merely a spontaneous reaction of the angry public. The systematic manner in which the Sikhs were thus killed indicate that the attacks on them were organized." At that time, anti-Sikh violence was facilitated by political leaders who used voter lists to identify Sikh homes and direct mobs armed with incendiary materials and bussed into the capital city of Delhi via the State-owned and operated transit system. For four days, Sikh men were burned alive. Women were subject to grotesque and inconceivable sexual violence. Children were beheaded. Justice Nanavati confirmed that at many places the Police had taken away their [Sikhs'] arms or other articles with which they could have defended themselves against the attacks of mobs and that rumours to incite violence against Sikhs had been systemically circulated by many, including the police. I was born in 1986 and raised in the aftermath of what has come to be known as the 1984 Sikh Genocide. I was raised among trauma-afflicted families, and carried much of my own. In university, I elected to study genocide. I completed an Honours degree in Social Justice and Peace Studies, a Master's in Conflict Studies, and weeks from today I will be graduating with a Law Degree from the University of Windsor. From all of my studies and reviews of the academic literature, it is clear that the Indian government committed genocide. Arguments to the contrary overwhelmingly and disproportionately come from organizations heavily linked to India's consular services in Canada, who have exerted pressure on the Ontario Legislature with threats of economic sanction. Jagmeet Singh, Deputy Leader of Ontario's New Democrats, has been denied a visa to India, and has openly spoken about the Consulates attempts to blackmail him. Fortunately, the divisive message propagated by these organizations are not reflective of many, including India's very own Home Minister Rajnath Singh, who himself has referred to what happened in 1984 as genocide. Canadian democracy is resilient, but more importantly it is compassionate. For decades, violence carried out by the Indian state has deeply traumatized Sikhs. That hurt has been intergenerational. Nonetheless, there is a path to healing from all of this. As noted by leading trauma and reconciliation specialist Dr. Judith Herman, the path requires remembrance and truth-telling as prerequisites. That is why the Ontario Legislature's motion is unifying and healing. Canada's and Ontario's democratic institutions have demonstrated their commitment to seeking the truth. I offer my thanks to those courageous MPPs that voted to support this motion, but also some counsel. The path forward will be unifying and healing, but it will also be difficult. As Dr. Herman almost prophetically notes: "Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought this upon herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on." I see this happening now. To those who are standing up for truth and justice, all I can say is, stay on the path. Stay strong. Truth, in the end, is the only way we can heal.
  5. your terrorist community comment was clutching at straws to undermine the motion in Canada's Ontario that officially recognized the sikh genocide. Sikhs all over including India have advocated for justice for the atrocities in 1984. In India, Sikhs don't glorify the Indian police or government for the atrocities against them in 1984. Fact is sikhs were killed, raped, and burnt alive for multiple days straight and the police simply ignored all of it and the PM of India, Rajiv Gandhi merely justified the carnage by saying when a tree falls, the earth below shakes. Numerous reports and investigations have revealed that it was systematic and organized and worse than a genocide. You can call it by whatever name but it doesn't change the fact that thousands of sikhs were killed, burnt alive, and raped in India in 1984 and the decade that followed in punjab. if you want signatures, a simple google search yield those results. i think there's no point in reiterating the same thing over and over again. If you want a better understanding, go do some background considering you have ignored the articles I've posted here. again you keep on deflecting the main points. peace out
  6. photos are not proof of terrorist community in toronto like you mentioned earlier where you dismissed the motion to recognize the Sikh genocide led by the Canadian Harinder Kaur Malhi and Jagmeet Singh, as merely pandering to the terrorist community amongst sikhs in toronto when in fact, the injustice and genocide against Sikhs in 1984 and decade that followed in punjab had been recognized by the majority of sikhs all over the world. and the fact is Canada's Ontario has officially recognized the Sikh genocide of 1984 whether you want to believe it or not. If you want to keep on deflecting on the main topic, sure go ahead.
  7. how's pictures proof of terrorist community.
  8. you still haven't explained or given any proof who and where this terrorist community is in toronto?
  9. so you have moved from your original claim of terrorist community to terrorist sympathizing gurudwaras and polticians.
  10. I don't where your supposedly " terrorist community" claims are coming from and where this community is in toronto. Sikhs have advocated for the injustice against them in 1984 yet you are simply calling it 'pandering to the terrorist community' which simply ignored the fact that it's the sikhs who are advocating for the injustices against them in 1984. has many answers to the question you keep raising informing you of the background which you lack in this matter and ignoring. Fact is, Ontario has officially passed a motion of declaring the Sikh genocide. For Sikh Canadians, Ontario's Genocide Motion Was Courageous And Unifying 04/19/2017 05:09 EDT | Updated 04/19/2017 05:09 EDT Amneet Singh Bali Human Rights Advocate, Law Student and former Social Justice Fellow in Global Governance and Democracy at Windsor Law. Hindustan Times via Getty Images NEW DELHI, INDIA - JUNE 12: Devotees look at just laid foundation stone of November 1984 Sikh Genocide Memorial at Gurudwara Rakab Ganj on June 12, 2013 in New Delhi, India. Allegedly more than 8,000 Sikhs died including 3,000 in Delhi during the 1984 anti-Sikhs riots or the 1984 Sikh Massacre by anti-Sikh mobs, in response to the assassination of Indira Gandhi by her Sikh bodyguards. (Photo by Vipin Kumar/Hindustan Times via Getty Images) Earlier this month, in a historic move demonstrating commitment to democracy and human rights, the Ontario Legislature passed a motion to recognize the 1984 anti-Sikh violence as genocide. The term genocide is politically charged and because of this it is rarely used. But, in this instance, acknowledging what happened in 1984 was genocide was truthful, sincere and healing. In the 1980s, Canada opened its borders to Sikh refugees fleeing persecution at the hands of the Indian government. Sikh youths were being disappeared by the thousands, with the government claiming they were terrorists that had gone underground. With Canadian assistance, it was later revealed that the government had engaged in a campaign of extra-judicial killings. The campaign to systematically exterminate Sikhs in Punjab lasted over a decade. In 1995, Jaswant Singh Khalra uncovered police cremation records proving the murders of innocent Sikh youth. He presented his findings to the Canadian Parliament in June of that year. Upon returning to India that September, he was abducted by police and tortured for a month. His body was cut into pieces and dumped into a river. Belatedly, Indian Supreme Court Judges Justice Kuldip Singh and Justice Saghir Ahmed expressed 'horror and shock' at the evidence Khalra had collected, describing the acts it proved as 'worse than genocide'. Today, Amnesty International recognizes Jaswant Khalra as an International Defender of Human Rights and the Canadian Museum for Human Rights has an entire exhibit dedicated to his honour. Jaswant Singh Khalra shed light on a horrific historical episode that many including myself grew up witnessing. During my childhood, the weekly newspaper was full of photos of the bullet-ridden bodies of Sikh men, some emasculated and dressed in saris, but all photographed with police officers hovering over them the way that hunters might loom over their prey. Women, too, were objects of extreme sexual violence, including rape by officers of the State. This was the plight of Sikhs in India, a hunted minority that comprised 2% of India's total population. Disappearances were unfortunately only the tip of the iceberg. Human rights violations were widespread and in November 1984, when the genocide climaxed in four days of State-facilitated, unhinged violence. While the Indian Government has often claimed that the violence was a result of Indira Gandhi's assassination, this canard was debunked by the Nanavati Commission report headed by the former Supreme Court Justice, G.T Nanavati. In his report, Justice Nanavati concluded that "[a]ll this could not have happened [in November 1984] if it was merely a spontaneous reaction of the angry public. The systematic manner in which the Sikhs were thus killed indicate that the attacks on them were organized." At that time, anti-Sikh violence was facilitated by political leaders who used voter lists to identify Sikh homes and direct mobs armed with incendiary materials and bussed into the capital city of Delhi via the State-owned and operated transit system. For four days, Sikh men were burned alive. Women were subject to grotesque and inconceivable sexual violence. Children were beheaded. Justice Nanavati confirmed that at many places the Police had taken away their [Sikhs'] arms or other articles with which they could have defended themselves against the attacks of mobs and that rumours to incite violence against Sikhs had been systemically circulated by many, including the police. I was born in 1986 and raised in the aftermath of what has come to be known as the 1984 Sikh Genocide. I was raised among trauma-afflicted families, and carried much of my own. In university, I elected to study genocide. I completed an Honours degree in Social Justice and Peace Studies, a Master's in Conflict Studies, and weeks from today I will be graduating with a Law Degree from the University of Windsor. From all of my studies and reviews of the academic literature, it is clear that the Indian government committed genocide. Arguments to the contrary overwhelmingly and disproportionately come from organizations heavily linked to India's consular services in Canada, who have exerted pressure on the Ontario Legislature with threats of economic sanction. Jagmeet Singh, Deputy Leader of Ontario's New Democrats, has been denied a visa to India, and has openly spoken about the Consulates attempts to blackmail him. Fortunately, the divisive message propagated by these organizations are not reflective of many, including India's very own Home Minister Rajnath Singh, who himself has referred to what happened in 1984 as genocide. Canadian democracy is resilient, but more importantly it is compassionate. For decades, violence carried out by the Indian state has deeply traumatized Sikhs. That hurt has been intergenerational. Nonetheless, there is a path to healing from all of this. As noted by leading trauma and reconciliation specialist Dr. Judith Herman, the path requires remembrance and truth-telling as prerequisites. That is why the Ontario Legislature's motion is unifying and healing. Canada's and Ontario's democratic institutions have demonstrated their commitment to seeking the truth. I offer my thanks to those courageous MPPs that voted to support this motion, but also some counsel. The path forward will be unifying and healing, but it will also be difficult. As Dr. Herman almost prophetically notes: "Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought this upon herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on." I see this happening now. To those who are standing up for truth and justice, all I can say is, stay on the path. Stay strong. Truth, in the end, is the only way we can heal.
  11. you said pandering to TERRORIST COMMUNITY in Toronto. What terrorist community? You simply labeled teh Toronto Sikh community as a terrorist community. You can't make random statements like that not back them up with facts. When it the majority of Sikhs who backed the motion. By majority obviously we are talking about Canada. Even in India, majority of sikhs don't glorify the Indian government for the atrocities committed against them in 1984 or the decade that followed. You have on numerous times siad those asking for injustice against sikhs in 1984 and those who have backed the motion for the sikh genocide as terrorist communit. Let me recall for you, the motion was led by Harinder Malhi, MPP. So you're calling her a terrorist and the community she represents as a terrorist community?
  12. you said the motion was pandering to the terrorist community in toronto when it is the majority of sikhs who have advocated the sikh genocide in 1984 where thousands were burnt alive, raped, and murdered for days without the police or government doing anything. so you moved from calling the community as terrorist to now gurduwaras glorifying the terrorists. furthermore, thousands of innocent sikhs were killed in punjab over a decade and the person who unraveled this was murdered by Indian police
  13. where is this terrorist community in Toronto that you mentioned? You are clueless in this whole matter and mixingup and confusing things up. The majority of Sikhs have asked for the injustice of the 1984 sikh genocide not the supposedly terrorist community that you randomly say. And that's where the motion came through. For starters, read up on the motion before making random accusations.
  14. like i said, 38% of canada's population. home of the largest south asian community in canada. in any case, the point is , the fact is Ontario officially recognized the sikh genocide with a 34-5 vote let's not retract your statement. you said labeling those backing the 1984 sikh genocide motion as a terrorist community lol What? I don't know if you understand what you wrote. The motion was led by Harinder Malhi, the MPP and the motion passed in the Ontario Parliament. In other words, you're basically saying that recognizing the sikh genocide of 1984 and asking for justice for the 1984 sikh genocide makes the sikh community in toronto/canada as terrorists. sounds pretty illogical and stupid to say the least. anyways live with the fact that ontario has officially recognized the sikh genocide of 1984.

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