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bowl_out got a reaction from maniac in TM might be morons but why arent youngsters grabbing their chances?
Kinda agree with the OP here..
Even though I don't expect these guys to perform every time they come in, I would like to see at least 1-2 impact performances from Pant, Shaw, Saini in the formats that we are backing them.. I can't remember one LOI innings where Pant made an impact. Yeah, he got dropped unfairly after his concussion, but he's played 16 ODIs and 28 T20Is (and this isn't a small number), but there is not one defining innings that you can remember or call match winning.
bowl_out reacted to express bowling in TM might be morons but why arent youngsters grabbing their chances?
Saini was the Man of the Series in the T20I series vs the WI.
Was dropped in the very next 3 T20I games.
Kuldeep took a 5 fer in the last test in Australia,. Doing that in a test in SENA is no joke for a spinner. Has not played s test since then.
Pant scored 2 centuries in the last 5 tests he played in the 2018-19 season. But was dropped for the 5 tests in the entire home season of 2019.
Iyer was averaging 40+ at a SR of 100+ when he was dropped from the ODI squad in 2018.
Nair was dropped in the very next test after scoring 303. And has played just 2 more tests in the next 40 months since then.
Vihari was the Man of the Series in tests in the WI. But Rahane was the default choice as the 5th batsman whenever we played 5 batters in the next 2 series.
The policy of this team is clear. A youngster will get chances only if an older player of similar profile is injured or unavailable. Current ability or form are not the considerations.
Whenever such things happen, youngsters are bound to lose confidence.
bowl_out reacted to maniac in TM might be morons but why arent youngsters grabbing their chances?
We all know guys like Kohli and Shastri have a lot of flaws and their negative qualities in leadership and management far outweigh their positives if they have any.
However having said that shouldn't the youngsters grab every shot they get in what is a crowded space in the Indian talent pool?
Sachin never put a foot wrong since his debut.
Ganguly and Dravid too made an impact right from the start. Ganguly well he had to wait for 4 years after his not so impressive debut and there was a lot of criticism on him in 1996 but he evolved beyond that and made a statement in a tough overseas tour. In fact they grabbed their chances and leap frogged ahead of guys like Kambli, Manjrekar, Amre, Jadeja and a few other high profile names of that time.
Bumrah was considered to be a LOI specialist but from test 1, he started performing to become the no.1 bowler in the world across all formats.
Kohli too grabbed every opportunity he got in a very crowded space. In fact when all eyes were on Rohit Sharma and to some extent on Pujara and Rahane he leap frogged all of them to become what he became.
Rohit Sharma too probably got one last opportunity when he was made to open and even though I will admit he did get a lot of backing, he did finally make his last chance count in a big way.
Same goes for Dhawan who made an impact in his first test and his first ODI tournament.
There are plenty of such examples.
However among recent youngsters we don't see the same hunger. The only guy I can think of in recent times who broke the barrier is Rahul when he made an impressive comeback and cashed in every opportunity he got in any position that he wasn't comfortable in. The other guy who makes his case strong is Aggarwal.
Pandya is still a prospect with a great potential after playing for 4 years as a regular every time he is in the scheme of things. We still talk about oh that knock or cameo or that 1 spell but by now we should be 100% sure that Pandya will be slotted in and start winning games like we talk about Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah etc.
Pant too while obviously he has been mishandled, no one can deny that he has had enough opportunities where he could have stood up and made an impact and shut down all doubters. He has been in multiple situation where he could have finished the game or in tests were he could have uplifted the team with an outstanding knock. While we still say Pant has been destroyed etc, there should be a question for Pant as well as why he is not making the most of his chances. As the saying goes, life gives you lemons but you need to make a lemonade out of it.
Shaw had 7 consecutive innings in Nzl where he showed flashes of brilliance, there are more doubts about his place than before rather than him sealing the deal and making a statement. Same goes for Vihari who had 4 innings. While he did well in 1, was that good enough to have a guaranteed slot?
Saini has had 0 wickets in Nzl ODI's and he is still backed but isn't the onus on him to pick a few wickets in the next few opportunities even though he is able to hit 140+ regularly?
Karun Nair is a tragic case of Indian cricket and it is unfair for a guy to be dropped 3-4 games after a 300 but had he scored even a 100 in one of those games, would there even be a doubt of his inclusion?
This might come across as blaming the victim rather than the perpetrator but in a dog eat dog world and with so much competition around the onus lies on the young players to grab every shot they get. The current TM doesn't back youngsters and it is a toxic environment, no doubt but isn't that when true talent will shine through?
bowl_out got a reaction from Vickydev in Team India squad for 3 match ODI series against SA:
Was looking forward to the new gen of quicks - two of Prasidh, Mavi, Warrier, Siraj.
Bhuvi is still fine, but was hoping they use this series to blood the next gen of pacers... Bumrah's selection for this useless ODI tour was unnecessary.
bowl_out reacted to Vickydev in Team India squad for 3 match ODI series against SA:
Why are Bumrah and Kohli playing this series? ODIs are supposed to be irrelevant and both needed a rest badly.
Aur kitna chu**** katoge humara. Maaro mujhe maaro
bowl_out reacted to Gollum in Equivalent movie, cartoon, anime, TV show characters of cricketers
Kohli=Robert Baratheon...great batsman/warrior, arrogant, both terrible leaders, hot wives, not very intelligent
Sachin= Sups...holds most records, Kryptonite=Choking, huge fanbase, God like status for many
Viv=Goku...GOAT, mental giant, charismatic yet simple, Viv avoided helmet just like how Goku avoided the Saiyan armor
Smith=Kid Buu...weirdass technique, no one knows source of their power, both dominant at what they do, villain since this is an Indian forum
Gavaskar=Yoda.....uhm they look similar
Ashwin=combination of Dexter, Mysterio and Aquaman. Nerd, bag of tricks and ghar ka sher
KLR=Broly...doesn't realize his power, more powerful than GOAT when in mood...since mentioning Hanuman would be blasphemous for some
Random Pakistani cricketer= Dick Dastardly and Muttley....cos cheating
Dhoni=Two-Face.....hero who turned villain
Ponting=Frieza...villain who gave us max tension in our childhood
McGrath=Voldemort, another villain who tormented our younger selves
Lara=Achilles, Brad Pitt one...STYLE
Pandya=Kirk Lazarus (Tropic Thunder) plus Johnny Bravo...wannabe Black and complete tool
Dravid=Batman...though not as talented as Sachin/Superman compensated with self-improvement/determination/analytical skills, also better leadership material, both Dark Knights
Ganguly=Iron Man...rich families, spoiled, bratty in their youth but matured, egomaniacs, great deal of heart/pride, sense of sacrifice, leadership quality
Kumble=Rocky Balboa...not talented, hard working, never give up attitude, played despite injuries, widely respected, honorable men
Jaddu=Spiderman...everything sticks to his hands
Pant=Juggernaut...powerful but brainless
Yuvi=Walter White...cancer, badass
Broad=Draco Malfoy...not just cos they look similar
bowl_out reacted to Cricwala in Sandeep Patil compares Rahane to security guard, slams Ravi Shastri
lolwut...these older generation guys have no sense how to talk. just say something outrageous and gossipy to make a good quote is what they know.
criticize the guy, but don't demean him or the occupation of security guard.
bowl_out got a reaction from raki05 in Inzamam-ul-Haq lashes out at ICF'S Virat Kohli critics
No one is questioning his technique... They are questioning his arrogance, immaturity, and arguably lack of luck with tosses
bowl_out reacted to Gollum in Whom will the TM make scapegoats for this embarrassing debacle?
How many more excuses for Pant? This is getting boring now. Sure give him an extended run but every time he fails don't deflect blame.